10 best Russian NHLers of all time?

[redwinger4747 6]

1 Bure

2 Yashin

3 Fedorov

4 Larionov

5 Kovalev

6 Khabibulin

7 Fetisov

8 Kovalchuk

9 Ovechkin

10 Zhitnik

Honorable Mention: Datsyuk, Kasparaitis, Gonchar, Zubov, Zhamnov

This was very hard, had to give Kovalchuk and Ovechkin credit even tho they are very yound, they are just too good not to make the list.

[eva unit zero 271]

1 Bure

2 Yashin

3 Fedorov

4 Larionov

5 Kovalev

6 Khabibulin

7 Fetisov

8 Kovalchuk

9 Ovechkin

10 Zhitnik

Honorable Mention: Datsyuk, Kasparaitis, Gonchar, Zubov, Zhamnov

This was very hard, had to give Kovalchuk and Ovechkin credit even tho they are very yound, they are just too good not to make the list.

Having Yashin second totally invalidates this list.

Assuming you mean their NHL career only:

1. Fedorov

2. Bure

3. Konstantinov

4. Mogilny

5. Kovalev

6. Zubov

7. Kovalchuk

8. Ovechkin

9. Khabibulin

10. Gonchar

[Andy Pred 48 337]

Are you just listing guys who played a few years in the NHL or players who have appeared for a few games.

Because if so you can't leave out Vladimir Krutov, just ask the Nuck fans how good he was. Also you'll have to find room for his sidekick Sergei Makarov too and our own Igor is already on the list. The famed KLM line.

Devils fans would also say there is a case for Fetisov's old blue line buddy back in NJ, Alexei Kasatonov but looking at the list it is only guys from the 90's to the present day. Maybe you could put up a best 10 forwards and 10 best defence with say top 3 NM. I think you may get some interesting replies to that.

[interminded 1]

Khabibulin ????

Give me a break...

[eva unit zero 271]

Khabibulin ????

Is the best Russian goaltender as far as his NHL career is concerned.

[Dano33 41]

Having Yashin second totally invalidates this list.

Assuming you mean their NHL career only:

1. Fedorov

2. Bure

3. Konstantinov

4. Mogilny

5. Kovalev

6. Zubov

7. Kovalchuk

8. Ovechkin

9. Khabibulin

10. Gonchar

fedorov ahead of bure, are you crazy. fedorov was awesome but bure was freakin amazing. back to back 60 goal seasons early in the 90's and almost did it again with the panthers. he basically played by himself his entire career.

[sibiriak 84]

1. Fedorov - best all-around Russian player in his prime.

2. Pavel Bure - best scoring forward, in his prime.

3. Ovechkin - best natural talent to come out of Russia in the last 20 years.

4. Zubov - best russian defenseman, in his prime.

5. Mogilny

6. Kovalchuk

7. Khabibulin - best Russain born goalie in the NHL.

8. Kovalev

9. Yashin

10. Larionov, if only because of the 3 Cups.

Honorable mention to Slava Kozlov, Fetisov, Konstantinov, Gonchar, Zhitnik, Nabokov, Makarov - if only he could come over before he turned 34...

[theman19 47]

fedorov ahead of bure, are you crazy. fedorov was awesome but bure was freakin amazing. back to back 60 goal seasons early in the 90's and almost did it again with the panthers. he basically played by himself his entire career.

here's how we end the bure, federov debates,....

1. Federov could play Defence (extremly well)

2. Hart trophy, 3 stanley cups

[Heaton 1]

So you hav the rankings:

Federov

Bure

Fedorov

[WingNutt 12]

So many players that went unmentioned but like you said clearly NHL players only. I don't agree with Zhitnik and Yashin though. I think Kozlov should be above them, and since you have Nikolai in that list, Pasha should be with them aswell. Ovechkin but no Malkin??? I believe Ovechkin is better but I also believe Malkin is better than Yashin, Gonchar, and Zubov positions aside. Malkin is the real deal aswell and shouldn't be over looked.

[brutus 0]

meh!...who cares? none of them there euro-trash players are as good as the worst north ameriKan player

brutus

[vladyfan 0]

The Russian Five certainly are in that mix.... Konstantinov!!!!!!!

[WingNutt 12]

meh!...who cares? none of them there euro-trash players are as good as the worst north ameriKan player

brutus

Considering your rude comment, I have to ask you, Have you ever been out of Kentucky??

[Louisville 112]

I would think Khabibulin and Zubov, both cup winners. Would beat out guys like Ovechkin or Kovalchuck...but that's just me.

[sibiriak 84]

Considering your rude comment, I have to ask you, Have you ever been out of Kentucky??

What do you mean "out of Kentucky"? Any damfool knows there's nothing outside of Kentucky. The Earth end just over them thar hills.

[Zetter is Better 0]

Having Yashin second totally invalidates this list.

Assuming you mean their NHL career only:

1. Fedorov

2. Bure

3. Konstantinov

4. Mogilny

5. Kovalev

6. Zubov

7. Kovalchuk

8. Ovechkin

9. Khabibulin

10. Gonchar

That would be my list too.

[brutus 0]

Considering your rude comment, I have to ask you, Have you ever been out of Kentucky??

so you are taking that seriously? have YOU ever been out of West Virginia? Somebody's funny bone ai'nt be workin' hoss...[***alert***] please step away from the funny if you don't understand [/***alert] (repeat 3Xs)

btw: having been to both places WV is WAY more hill-billy than KY...at least they make good burbon in KY and according to the last toothical census, KY was .23 incisors ahead of WV per capita while the gap-toothed differential remained statistically insignificant however residents of both states performed equally well in chaw spittin' and hay straw gnawing....so the insult is sucessfully deflected and returned without the rubber/glue defense which I retain the right for use at a later time should the situation necessitate and warrant such insurmountable repudiation....dont make me bring chewbacca into this...I mean it...don't! I will go all Johnny Cochran on yer arse!

Good Day Sir!

brutus

[silkyjohnson13 0]

Having Bure ahead of Fedorov is a complete joke in my opinion. I understand that some of you have and will never forgive Fedorov for leaving Detroit, but don't use that hatred to blind your vision. Fedorov is the best Russian ever to play the bulk of his career in the NHL.

Fedorov in his prime was not only the most complete Russian, but the most complete player in the NHL. He was one of the most complete players that i've ever seen and i think a lot of people would agree with that.

Bure was no question a more pure goal scorer than Fedorov, but that's about it. Their overall games are not even close.

Fedorov could absolutely dominate a game both offensively and defensively, a thing that not many, and in this case Bure, cannot say.

[Barrie 900]

Fedorov no doubt in my mind tops the list. He was an outstanding two way player and has won a number of individual/team awards so far in his career. Fedorov in his prime could do it all, and we saw it first hand.

[Kp-Wings 3]

Some major disagreements there. First of all, Yashin would be very lucky to make that list. He is a good player, and can dominate the game when he's on top, but his past few seasons have brought him some really bad attention. He is a little better this season, but he's still not burning the charts. Add to that his rocky situation in Ottawa and nasty hate for Alexandre Daigle (who at the time was being looked at as more important), and it's hard to make a case for him, even though he has had some really good seasons before.

Secondly, how are Sergei Makarov and Vladimir Krutov not on that list? Did we forget the famous "KLM" line which included Larionov that dominated the Russian leagues consistantly? While Krutov didn't have a very outstanding NHL career (only one or two seasons), his play in Russia certainly deserves him of a top ten spot. Even more so for Makarov, because Makarov had a pretty good NHL career to go along with his dominance in Russia.

Thirdly, as an all time list some guys like Kovalev or Khabibulin don't really fit. Khabibulin might have a case, because he is one of the better known goalies, but it's still a bit sketchy.

[Earthhuman 8]

so you are taking that seriously? have YOU ever been out of West Virginia? Somebody's funny bone ai'nt be workin' hoss...[***alert***] please step away from the funny if you don't understand [/***alert] (repeat 3Xs)

btw: having been to both places WV is WAY more hill-billy than KY...at least they make good burbon in KY and according to the last toothical census, KY was .23 incisors ahead of WV per capita while the gap-toothed differential remained statistically insignificant however residents of both states performed equally well in chaw spittin' and hay straw gnawing....so the insult is sucessfully deflected and returned without the rubber/glue defense which I retain the right for use at a later time should the situation necessitate and warrant such insurmountable repudiation....dont make me bring chewbacca into this...I mean it...don't! I will go all Johnny Cochran on yer arse!

Good Day Sir!

brutus

I just put your little mini-conversation on a Word document and saved it. Classic.

You get a brownie point.

[sibiriak 84]

Some major disagreements there. First of all, Yashin would be very lucky to make that list. He is a good player, and can dominate the game when he's on top, but his past few seasons have brought him some really bad attention. He is a little better this season, but he's still not burning the charts. Add to that his rocky situation in Ottawa and nasty hate for Alexandre Daigle (who at the time was being looked at as more important), and it's hard to make a case for him, even though he has had some really good seasons before.

Secondly, how are Sergei Makarov and Vladimir Krutov not on that list? Did we forget the famous "KLM" line which included Larionov that dominated the Russian leagues consistantly? While Krutov didn't have a very outstanding NHL career (only one or two seasons), his play in Russia certainly deserves him of a top ten spot. Even more so for Makarov, because Makarov had a pretty good NHL career to go along with his dominance in Russia.

Thirdly, as an all time list some guys like Kovalev or Khabibulin don't really fit. Khabibulin might have a case, because he is one of the better known goalies, but it's still a bit sketchy.

This thread is about Russian NHLers. Thus Makarov and Krutov, who didn't have long NHL carreers don't get on the top10 list. Same for Konstantinov, who would have been on it if not for his injury. As to Yashin, Khabibulin, and Kovalev, who would you put above them on your list?

[Kp-Wings 3]

Sorry, I missed the NHLer part. If it's from that point, then both would probably be on my list.

[Barrie 900]

I wonder who'd top a list of Greatest Russian player ever? Larionov or Fetisov?

[sibiriak 84]

I wonder who'd top a list of Greatest Russian player ever? Larionov or Fetisov?

Vsevolod Bobrov, closely followed by Valery Kharlamov, Vyacheslav Starshinov and then maybe Fetisov.