haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) It would be great!!!! But why St-Louis would help us??? I can see Gary Roberts coming here... but not sure about Guerin & Tkachuk... Why Holland didn't pick him last summer??? They're UFAs and would almost certainly be playoff rentals, so St. Louis relieves themselves of the remainder of their salary for the season, could possibly get picks or prospects in return, and still have a shot at re-signing them for next year. Edited February 16, 2007 by haroldsnepsts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) with the avs out of the playoffs this year , what are the chances at sakic being a playoff rental.this is the last year on his contract ??? any thoughts, maybe him and svatos ???? svatos was a healthy scratch last game Edited February 16, 2007 by LEBDA22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 They're UFAs and would almost certainly be playoff rentals, so St. Louis relieves themselves of the remainder of their salary for the season, could possibly get picks or prospects in return, and still have a shot at re-signing them for next year. What we can give them for Guerin or Tkachuk??? NY Rangers, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, Carolina, even Buffalo (Connolly is not going to be ready...) would like to have any of these players... It's easier to trade with Eastern conf. teams than with Western. I think that Holland will go after Sturm, Roberts... Ryder is on trade block - it's time to trade for him NOW... with the avs out of the playoffs this year , what are the chances at sakic being a playoff rental.this is the last year on his contract ??? any thoughts, maybe him and svatos ???? svatos was a healthy scratch last game I don't think so... Can't imagine Sakic in any other jersey - same thing as Yzerman... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 Assuming we pick up a player (or two) for draft picks and minor prospects) who's roster spots do they take.... and where do we put the players who's spots they're taking? IMO, Williams, Hudler and Samuelsson could all be replaced. Hudler has the highest trade value of the three, Williams would be second and Samuelsson has been very underwhelming this season when he's actually been healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 with the avs out of the playoffs this year , what are the chances at sakic being a playoff rental.this is the last year on his contract ??? any thoughts, maybe him and svatos ???? svatos was a healthy scratch last game Sakic? none Svatos? dunno. is he physical and RW? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 (edited) svatos ia a right wing , as far as being physical , i havent watched him play much 5- 10 170 lbs . often injured , nevermind Edited February 16, 2007 by LEBDA22 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 It would be great!!!! But why St-Louis would help us??? I can see Gary Roberts coming here... but not sure about Guerin & Tkachuk... Why Holland didn't pick him last summer??? He didn't sign him, my guess anyway, other than him not wanting to come here is that it would have pushed the wings too close to the cap or actually over it with his salary for the year. But I think he also liked the idea of going to play with Weight. As for St Louis helping the Wings what do they care when they aren't going to make the playoffs and both would be rentals? Its not the same as trading away big star that would be on that team for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LEBDA22 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 i say look for something to happen today or tomorrow with the yotes....just my thoughts , by the way that neck injury too nolan wasnt anything too worry about , he played last night and had a goal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt 1,049 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 It's easier to trade with Eastern conf. teams than with Western. Again, conference affiliation (as a factor) does not apply to rental players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnnyoski 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 i say look for something to happen today or tomorrow with the yotes....just my thoughts , by the way that neck injury too nolan wasnt anything too worry about , he played last night and had a goal No thanks. They can keep Nolan and Roenick. Both are way past their prime and wouldn't fit in well here....jmho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest ZetterBurger40 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 This is hilarious, I want to go back and find the threads that I (and others) started about acquiring Guerin before the season...we were blasted because he's too old, washed up, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howe's Bony Elbow 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 I'd take Guerin over Tkachuk because (a) he scores more and (b) he's faster. If we're going to get a second-line winger to play with Lang, it'd better be somebody speedier than a zamboni. Plus, adding Guerin and his relatively smaller contract could mean we'd have room to add Gary Roberts, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GuloGulo 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 This is hilarious, I want to go back and find the threads that I (and others) started about acquiring Guerin before the season...we were blasted because he's too old, washed up, etc. I was skeptical regarding Guerin. While his season has been dynamite, I'm still convinced the guy is pretty much a playoff dud, always was, and always will be. He's still better than any of our current 2nd Line options. If the opportunity rises, Holland should act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heaton 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 This is hilarious, I want to go back and find the threads that I (and others) started about acquiring Guerin before the season...we were blasted because he's too old, washed up, etc. After his last season with the Stars it was hard not to think that he was done. Besides, he's not a physical force out there today, but he still plays with a bit of an edge, which is always welcomed. A lot of teams thought he was washed up, which is why he signed for 2m in St. Louis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 If Bert can come back healthy Id take a chance at Bert. Seriously he is a monster and can really clog up the front of the net, and create a lot of chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 I was skeptical regarding Guerin. While his season has been dynamite, I'm still convinced the guy is pretty much a playoff dud, always was, and always will be. He's still better than any of our current 2nd Line options. If the opportunity rises, Holland should act. a playoff dud??? He had 3 goals in 5 games LAST SEASON. Hes far from being a dud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Essensa 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2007 both? Sounds good to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rice 42 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 Didn't Holland say he tried to add Drake at the deadline last year but couldn't clear enough space? Or was that Tyson Nash I'm thinking of? Either way, if Holland was interested in Drake last year I'm sure he has his eyes on him again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 I dont care what Holland has to do, take a fine, defer contract payments over the next 300 years, but i want our team to look like this following deadline day: Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom Guerin Tkachuk Weight Bertuzzi Lang Cleary Tucker Sundin Draper (the no trade clause to satisfy southernwingsfan) hmmm, maybe on D pick up Brewer to take Lillys spot. oh yeah, and bring in Brodeur as Doms back up. ... and ... GO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 Didn't Holland say he tried to add Drake at the deadline last year but couldn't clear enough space? Or was that Tyson Nash I'm thinking of? Either way, if Holland was interested in Drake last year I'm sure he has his eyes on him again. I remember hearing that too last year, but this year I havent heard anything about Drake. I did hear from Ted Kulfan a little while back, however, that Holland was interested in Mayers. If thats the case, I cant blame him. Hes a pretty good middleweight who may not always look to throw done against guys like Laraque or Boogard, but undoubteldy hed take on a Hartnell, Hagman, Mitchell type (all punks whove gone after our guys) if he hasnt already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 (edited) I dont care what Holland has to do, take a fine, defer contract payments over the next 300 years, but i want our team to look like this following deadline day: Zetterberg Datsyuk Holmstrom Guerin Tkachuk Weight Bertuzzi Lang Cleary Tucker Sundin Draper (the no trade clause to satisfy southernwingsfan) hmmm, maybe on D pick up Brewer to take Lillys spot. oh yeah, and bring in Brodeur as Doms back up. ... and ... GO!!! Someone must be out of anti-crazy pills. Anyway, the % is against us getting both from STL without losing a great prospect (Flip). I would rather see Guerin and a tough guy from another team (Laraque, Fedoruk) than risk losing too much of the future for a deeper than usual play-off run. If we are going to lose a lot for 2 players, they better be pretty much guranteed 10 goal scorers in the post season. Nashville did not do that, despite the entire NHL pundit world thinking they have locked up the Cup. As far as I'm concerned, they don't have the goalies for it; and in the new NHL, gritty-defense and goalies win Cups (Ward, Brodeur, Giguere[even though he lost and won the Conn Smythe], and Khabibulin) not power forwards. EDIT: SPELLING Edited February 17, 2007 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RyanBarnes! 293 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 Tkachuk -he's meaner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted February 17, 2007 In the case of Guerin and Tkachuk, the asking price from the St. Louis Blues is a top prospect and first round draft pick. Well, f*** me. And f*** you too, St. Louis! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hawkupaloogie 0 Report post Posted February 18, 2007 Drake?! I've never heard that name come up in trade talks but that would be totally awesome! He plays hard and with an edge. Let's go Wildcats! are you a northern fan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 18, 2007 Guerin and Drake for Hudler, Williams, and a 3rd round draft pick. TRADE PROPOSAL!!!!!!!!!11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
