3/11 GDT: Bruins @ Red Wings

[Drake_Marcus 890]

No, 5'9", single.

That's odd... datsyukismyfriend is 9'5" and married...

[GuloGulo 0]

Calder-Lang-Hudler:

2G 2A +5

A keeper formation?

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Calder-Lang-Hudler:

2G 2A +5

A keeper formation?

Best line by far today. It may be a keeper for now, but once Franz and Bert get back in the line up it'll be different.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

I'm pretty sure any line that Kyle Calder is on will be super great because he, himself, is super great.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

EDIT: My previous statement about oxygen vs pressure was badly worded. I should have said that the composition of air remains the same at higher altitude, but that lesser pressure there equates to lower quantities of all particles, including oxygen.

Thannnnnk you. Saved me from having to correct ya

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

I'll summarize it for you:

First goal: Long side off a face-off, screened.

Second goal: Power play, shot deflected in by a Bruin left wide open long-side in front of the net.

Third goal: Perfect wrist shot on a two-on-one via turnover from Pavel.

Fourth goal: Hasek goes out to play the puck, only to have it hideously bounce off the boards toward the front of the goal; Bruin picks it up and scores.

Fifth goal: Pavel, attempting to stop a Bruin on an outside break, mistakenly taps the puck past Hasek.

Sixth goal: Power play, Hasek is heavily screened and a succession of passes in front of the goal leads the puck to the stick of a wide-open Bruin on the long side.

So, Hasek didn't play a bad game; nay, he played a decent game, but the bounces were not in his favor and the defense was so-so.

You consume less O2 per breath, but the body's compensatory mechanisms allow more efficient utilization.

The bottom line is that, despite the altitude, my brain tissue is receiving the oxygen it needs in order to function optimally and avoid necrosis. Thank you for asking.

Had that been Oz in net with the 2nd goal going in you know EVERYONE would of bashed and said he had to stop it. It just amazes me that when it's Dom in net it's a great slapper, but if it's Oz it's 'he should of had it'. Just sayin'.

I'm making my point, so please don't take this as me starting something because im most certainly not.

I'm pretty sure any line that Kyle Calder is on will be super great because he, himself, is super great.

I can never say enough about that guy! Amazing and is exactly the type of skill the Wings have been lacking/need come playoff time. Even my Dad whom is very hard to please when it comes to getting new players and such keeps saying "Wow, I really like this Calder kid."

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Calder + Lang + Huddles is my current OT3

But really, what will happen when Bertuzzi enters the mix...I do not know?

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And you are right on about the Ozzie thing, HC.

Ozzie could have had his hands held behind his back, while being screened, on deflection goals, but if he would have let in 6 people would be having his head.

That's not to say I thought Dom was bad, or the loss was his fault, because I don't.

Edited March 11, 2007 by Offsides

[HockeyCrazy3033 168]

Calder + Lang + Huddles is my current OT3

But really, what will happen when Bertuzzi enters the mix...I do not know?

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And you are right on about the Ozzie thing, HC.

Ozzie could have had his hands held behind his back, while being screened, on deflection goals, but if he would have let in 6 people would be having his head.

That's not to say I thought Dom was bad, or the loss was his fault, because I don't.

Ditto on that line/top 3 faves. *after Ozzie of course* Well actually my three would be Ozzie, Calds/Huds *tied* and then Hank and Kronner. But Lang is great too. Unless you are just talking about lines in which hell yeah it would be the Calder/Lang/Huds line. klsjkgjs!

Ditto on Dom as well.

Edited March 11, 2007 by hockeycrazy3033

[zettsyukwall415 0]

Just got back from the game. Brutal. Kronwall especially looked clueless. Hudler looked really good. So gutsy for a little guy. We definitely need some guys back for Tuesday and Wednesday. We badly need those points from Nashville. I just hope the remaining guys stay healthy.

Anyway, I had a good time. I got the poster I wanted and I was picked to do the trivia competition, which I won! I was so nervous, I didn't even hear the first question (got it wrong). I looked huuuuge on the big screen, think the camera was too close . For anyone there, yes I was the complete dork in the Zetterberg hat and jersey, but like I said, I was sooo nervous. But it was fun. I won an awesome hat and an oversized sweater. My uncle was jealous when he heard because those were supposed to be his seats, but nobody in his house wanted to go.

Okay, I'll stop my chattering. Just hope the boys give it a better effort Tuesday and Wednesday. I miss watching Hank play. Get better soon!

[Guest Crymson]

Calder + Lang + Huddles is my current OT3

But really, what will happen when Bertuzzi enters the mix...I do not know?

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And you are right on about the Ozzie thing, HC.

Ozzie could have had his hands held behind his back, while being screened, on deflection goals, but if he would have let in 6 people would be having his head.

That's not to say I thought Dom was bad, or the loss was his fault, because I don't.

The Ozzie clique strikes again.

Had that been Oz in net with the 2nd goal going in you know EVERYONE would of bashed and said he had to stop it. It just amazes me that when it's Dom in net it's a great slapper, but if it's Oz it's 'he should of had it'. Just sayin'.

Not I. And I think you're wrong about others as well, because those goals were largely unstoppable save by luck. They were not the sort for which Osgood has been criticized lately. Those were, if you recall:

1) Horrible-angle wristshot by Forsberg from the boards, full line of sight on puck.

2) Meek, close range over-the-shoulder goal by a heavily slowed-down Legwand, with full line-of-sight on puck all the way down the ice.

3) Another easy, over-the-shoulder goal by Arnason.

4) A five-hole from 4 feet away by McLean. This was, by far, the worst one.

5) A close slide-in, again with full line-of-sight, by Hejduk.

Those were five goals that, indisputably, should NOT have made it into the net.

Hasek did not allow a flagrant goal in this game. No, I don't think Osgood would have been called on any of the goals in this game either. They were incomparable to those for which he has caught flak.

This is for your own good: Would have.

Edited March 11, 2007 by Crymson

[GuloGulo 0]

Ozzie vs Hasek debate makes baby Jesus cry.

Please no... NO NOT AGAIN.

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Ozzie vs Hasek debate makes baby Jesus cry.

Please no... NO NOT AGAIN.

More importantly it's a pointless debate. They're both on the Wings, they're not fighting for their positions- we all know who's the starter and who's the backup and it's not changing this season, and they're both established goalies with the hardware to back them up.

No where's that dead horse emoticon?

[FinWing 26]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR HANK!!! Out of sight out of mind? NEVER! Absence makes the heart grow fonder!

You appreciate a precious thing even more when it's gone.

More importantly it's a pointless debate. They're both on the Wings, they're not fighting for their positions- we all know who's the starter and who's the backup and it's not changing this season, and they're both established goalies with the hardware to back them up.

No where's that dead horse emoticon?

I love that one.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Seriously Ozzy supporters, you may not have meant to stir things up, but look at the last pages of this thread. You did.

Ozzy didn't play today, Dom did. Let's talk about that.

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Seriously Ozzy supporters, you may not have meant to stir things up, but look at the last pages of this thread. You did.

Ozzy didn't play today, Dom did. Let's talk about that.

Actually I disagree. Nothing is stirred up...there is no fight.

And no one said anything particularly bad about Dom. Just made a point, which is totally true. If Ozzie let in 6 you know we wouldn't be having anything near a civilized conversation.

I like the relative amount of positivity that we usually don't see after a loss though

Ozzie vs Hasek debate makes baby Jesus cry.

Please no... NO NOT AGAIN.

Ha ha...true.

But it's not Ozzie v. Hasek. I don't want anyone to rip apart Dom. I just want everyone to remember to be civil the next time Ozzie plays. Keep this in your BRAINS!

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I will talk about the goalie who was actually playing.

I think the first goal was questionable. I'm sure Dom was screened, but it was from a terrible angle. An NHL goaltender, especially Hasek should make that save. I'd like to see a replay to find out if it ping ponged around first or something.

The goal on the flukey bounce was a little aggravating too. It was an odd play off the boards, but by the way it was headed in, it didn't look like Hasek had a play on it anyway.

All the others were great shots or nice plays. Nothing to fault the goalie for at all.

My main concern is he looked a bit slow today. Hopefully it's just some rust he can shake off.

Actually I disagree. Nothing is stirred up...there is no fight.

And no one said anything particularly bad about Dom. Just made a point, which is totally true. If Ozzie let in 6 you know we wouldn't be having anything near a civilized conversation.

I like the relative amount of positivity that we usually don't see after a loss though

Ha ha...true.

But it's not Ozzie v. Hasek. I don't want anyone to rip apart Dom. I just want everyone to remember to be civil the next time Ozzie plays. Keep this in your BRAINS!

I agree that if Ozzy had been in net, he would've been crucified. Especially on the first goal. And the one where Dom went behind the net.

But making that point rarely accomplishes anything other than bringing other people into the mix to start bashing Ozzy for past goals. Ozzy haters seem to have photographic recall of any puck that got behind him.

I'd love for people to be this civil when Oz is in net and the Wings lose (or hell, even when the Wings win), but unfortunately, I just don't see it happening.

It all comes down to how people already feel about the goalie. Those who hate Ozzie will look at the same type of goal and say he should have had it. where if Dom were in net they'd call it a goal that most goalies wouldn't stop. The reverse is true too. We tend to latch on to instances that reinforce the opinions we already have. And unfortunately, a lot of people hate Ozzy.

Edited March 11, 2007 by haroldsnepsts

[BlueMonk 102]

My main concern is he looked a bit slow today. Hopefully it's just some rust he can shake off.

People keep saying this, but has it been different than any other game he's struggled in? I remember thinking he's looked a bit slow in some of his other shaky performances. I'm really not that worried about it being related to an injury, although maybe I should be.

The story of this game was a desperate Boston team needing two points to have any chance of making the playoffs, and playing like it. There were some missed calls that could have decided the game as well, and a couple of really lucky bounces. No team wins 82 games in a season, and it's partly because goofy stuff like this can happen on any given night. Also, matinee games are bullsh**. I would never want to see an important game played at 12:30 PM. Weird stuff happens.

Let's hope the Wings were looking ahead to the Nashville home and home. I'll be at the one in Detroit on Wednesday. Can't wait!

[shadow47 1]

Here you go people...check my posts, I am a big Hasek fan, but I can certainly watch his play objectively. He had a bad game today, period. Everybody has bad games, it's OK to acknowledge it, and he wasn't alone. Probably the early start time that had something to do with it, I would've thought Ozzie would've played this afternoon. But, regardless, Dom showed shades of Jan. 3 vs. SJ today. He was especially slow at times today and it cost him dearly on some goals, most notably the one with him out of the net which he moved too slowly getting back in (he could've moved a little faster, seriously), and the other notable ones being the Datsyuk "own-goal" and the one that just slithered by his stick for the tap-in (I think it was #5/6). These are plays he usually makes with ease but he just wasn't in the game today.

Maybe he'll be better next time. Not his fault they lost but he should've been a lot better.

edit: They'll probably be in some matinees for the playoffs if any games fall on the weekends for suck NBC.

Edited March 11, 2007 by shadow47

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

People keep saying this, but has it been different than any other game he's struggled in? I remember thinking he's looked a bit slow in some of his other shaky performances. I'm really not that worried about it being related to an injury, although maybe I should be.

Maybe it wasn't any different. Not sure. He just looked slow.

It might be me projecting that onto him because I know he's coming off injury.

I'm admittedly a little paranoid about his health as the playoffs get closer. I just can't stop worrying about Dom's groin!

[shadow47 1]

Maybe it wasn't any different. Not sure. He just looked slow.

It might be me projecting that onto him because I know he's coming off injury.

I'm admittedly a little paranoid about his health as the playoffs get closer. I just can't stop worrying about Dom's groin!

Probably when he's not focused his reaction time goes down. Also like you mention he's just coming back. It's not crazy to be worrying about him wearing down, he probably doesn't think it'll happen to him b/c he hasn't made it this many games in a season in so long.

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But making that point rarely accomplishes anything other than bringing other people into the mix to start bashing Ozzy for past goals. Ozzy haters seem to have photographic recall of any puck that got behind him.

I'd love for people to be this civil when Oz is in net and the Wings lose (or hell, even when the Wings win), but unfortunately, I just don't see it happening.

It all comes down to how people already feel about the goalie. Those who hate Ozzie will look at the same type of goal and say he should have had it. where if Dom were in net they'd call it a goal that most goalies wouldn't stop. The reverse is true too. We tend to latch on to instances that reinforce the opinions we already have. And unfortunately, a lot of people hate Ozzy.

It's just so frustrating! It's such a double standard. I don't want people to start bashing Dom, I want them to stop bashing Ozzie...GRAH.

[HOCKEY MATTERS 167]

Just got back from the game. Brutal. Kronwall especially looked clueless. Hudler looked really good. So gutsy for a little guy. We definitely need some guys back for Tuesday and Wednesday. We badly need those points from Nashville. I just hope the remaining guys stay healthy.

Anyway, I had a good time. I got the poster I wanted and I was picked to do the trivia competition, which I won! I was so nervous, I didn't even hear the first question (got it wrong). I looked huuuuge on the big screen, think the camera was too close . For anyone there, yes I was the complete dork in the Zetterberg hat and jersey, but like I said, I was sooo nervous. But it was fun. I won an awesome hat and an oversized sweater. My uncle was jealous when he heard because those were supposed to be his seats, but nobody in his house wanted to go.

Okay, I'll stop my chattering. Just hope the boys give it a better effort Tuesday and Wednesday. I miss watching Hank play. Get better soon!

I was at the game too! Since I quit smoking, and didn't have to rush out the door between periods, I was able to see you win the trivia!! Congratulations. Another LGWer excelling in life! Yeah...nice poster, huh? Drapes, Lindstrom and Zetterberg in black and white. Too cool. The first period was good....Wings had some spring in thier step, nice fight. They must have taken a nap during the first intermission and never woke up completely. Bad passing and not enough shooting the net. Pylons. but hey, at least the tix were free.

Edited March 11, 2007 by HOCKEY MATTERS

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

It's just so frustrating! It's such a double standard. I don't want people to start bashing Dom, I want them to stop bashing Ozzie...GRAH.

It's a beautiful dream.

[puckloo39 5,686]

Hi! Well, I missed the game, and am rather glad I did! Wow. Sounds like Dom had a bad day, as did several other Wings like Dats - he caused a goal against us, really? And Nick - who also caused a goal??? but has a "stick like a serpent?" What?

I just skimmed through the GDT so my viewpoints on the game are only coming from that angle. Dom knows better than to act like an average goalie, or act as if he's human when he's on the ice. I think he know he's supposed to be perfect every outing, but maybe he just forgot today or something. Or maybe there was some bad luck, bad bounces, bad calls, and a couple of goals Dom should have had involved? As usual, Hasek doesn't lose just a little bit, he does have a bad game, he does it BIG!! No worries, he'll be mad at himself, and will come back next game and be stellar, if history is a teacher. Not a problem. **** happens.

For any who think Dom doesn't get criticized, re-read the thread. He's old, slow, bad, ought to disappear, etc.... plenty of bashing, along with the usual opposing posts defending him. I do think a few folks in the this forum are harder on Ozzie than they are on Dominik, but Dom hardly escapes unscathed when he's off his game.

Let's see, we're missing Zetterberg, Markov, Cleary, Bertuzzi, and Franzen. And it sounds like we were "missing" several other guys who were actually out there on the ice, just "missing" in action. I hate day games and usually expect a loss, really. I am not sure why I feel that way, it just seems to happen more often than not. But, as Babs once said, "The other team was ready, so why weren't we?"

Thanks to those of you who tried to mediate today's goalie war (as if there ought to be one at all between Dom and Oz) and to those who tried to be fair in the face of a disappointing loss today. I will refrain from any direct comments on the penalty on Dom for the trapezoid infraction. My God, I am tired of that - some officials call him when he's within 20 feet of the zone, I swear. I'll let ya know what I think for sure when I have a chance to watch the recording, but I automatically assume it's bogus, since I see other goalies do it all the time, with no call. Tiresome, esp. when the PP results in a gimme goal for the bad guys.

Anywhoot, crappy loss, but there go my Wings bumbling the game vs. a less capable team, again. I was not surprised at the loss, but was kinda hoping they would manage a squeaker. Not to be. Kira was at the game today, with her best friend, Ellen, who is a Bruins fan. Ellen is happy. She owes Kira dinner (because the B's won), but I am sure Kira would trade free dinner for a "W" today.

Nashville, here we come!

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