Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He was just as bad. That little dork said that Datsyuk is afraid of "a boy named susan"- whatever that is supposed to mean. He said Zyuzin, the defensemen firing the shot in the clip in question... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sibiriak 84 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Datsyuk blocked 33 shots this sason. That's more than Draper, Zetterberg, Lecavalier, Eric Staal this season, and one Don Cherry in his whole career. Case closed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He was just as bad. That little dork said that Datsyuk is afraid of "a boy named susan"- whatever that is supposed to mean. I'm pretty sure that Datsyuk could take MacLean in a fight though- that would be a battle for the ages lol. He didn't say susan, he said Zyuzin. He was talking about Flames defenseman Andrei Zyuzin. What play he was talking about I have no idea though. I don't think i'll ever understand what he's got against Euro's , I mean sure there's alot of skilled players from europe but there's been a few tough guy's too. Do you guy's think he just use's this to stir up a bit of controversy or is old Don too stupid to do something like that ? Grapes is an idiot. He says stuff about Euros because he's one of these oldschool Canadians that, back when he coached the Bruins, there weren't many European players in the NHL. He seriously needs to get with the times though. There are a lot of good European players in the NHL, yet he is blinded by his stupidity to understand that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 I'll admit I suppose it looked a little funny, but I'd rather take a puck to my padded glove, than directly to my chops. Dumb statement my Cherry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He didn't say susan, he said Zyuzin. He was talking about Flames defenseman Andrei Zyuzin. What play he was talking about I have no idea though. I must've missed Ron mentioning it, but in all likelihood he was talking about Pavel not wanting his balls rocked by Zyuzin's shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) I don't consider Grapes to be a very smart man when it comes to hockey. Maybe Canadian hockey, but nothing outside that. Grapes wouldn't compliment a European player if he was on death row. This is why he's not really a very smart hockey person. If he can't decifer a good play because that person is a Euro, that really makes him a moron. I don't think i'll ever understand what he's got against Euro's , I mean sure there's alot of skilled players from europe but there's been a few tough guy's too. Do you guy's think he just use's this to stir up a bit of controversy or is old Don too stupid to do something like that ? The bottom line is Don Cherry is a guy that dropped out of high school to go play pro hockey, he found out that he couldn't make it in the NHL (because of a base ball injury supposedly ) after he realized that he wasn't going to make it as a player and went into coaching and became the coach of an American team, the Boston Bruins, until he got fired from there and went to Colorado and got fired from there, then he started whining and ranting about every thing that wasn't Canadian and somebody said "Hey, that's pretty funny, you should get your own show Hu, hu, hu" so they gave him a show and people just keep encouraging him, he is like my one year old nephew...He screams at the top of his lungs for no reason, people laugh so he keeps doing it...that's just the kinda guy the NHL needs. Edited April 14, 2007 by Elshupacabra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 OK, a few things...... I agree with a lot of things that Cherry said. Back in the glory days when we had guys like Kocur, Probert, McCarty, etc. is when I was a diehard Red Wings fan and to be honest in the last two years I have been pissed off watching some of the Red Wings games because of the exact reasons that Cherry mentioned. That Yzerman blocked shot being down 6-0 will always remain etched in memory because it shows the character that he has and how he is willing to do ANYTHING to win a game. On the flipside, you see Datsyuk care more about himself rather than the team. Now don't jump on me too soon but I'm sure that's what Cherry was alluding to and yes I was unhappy about the $7M dollar contract too because Datsyuk has done s*** in the playoffs, yes he got 2 points but one game doesn't make up for three years and that's why I was agreeing with a lot of what Cherry said. As for the Maclean comment it was one of those puns that he always uses, he said "Scared of a boy named Zyuzin". Not Susan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CloudConnected 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 The thing is, I don't want Datsyuk blocking shots. When I see a skill guy step in front of a shot, I remember Shanahan blocking one when we were up three goals against LA and him breaking his ankle. We went on to lose that series without him in the lineup( and him playing on a broken ankle the last game). Let Lilja or whatever defenseman block shots, I'll let Dats score for us any day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He's been trashing the Wings all season. I use to really like Don, but he's been pissing me off lately. Oh well. I could care less what he says anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glasgowcelticwing 18 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He's been trashing the Wings all season. I use to really like Don, but he's been pissing me off lately. Oh well. I could care less what he says anymore. I'm the same , I used to enjoy watching HNIC wth Don and Ron but they've pissed me off this season with all the crap they've been talking about the Wings. When you think about it maybe he's just upset that the only currently successful member of the original six isn't Canadian and is captained by a Euro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 The thing is, I don't want Datsyuk blocking shots. When I see a skill guy step in front of a shot, I remember Shanahan blocking one when we were up three goals against LA and him breaking his ankle. We went on to lose that series without him in the lineup( and him playing on a broken ankle the last game). Let Lilja or whatever defenseman block shots, I'll let Dats score for us any day. Every player should know how to properly block a shot, even if they aren't the guy out there doing it. I don't want to see Datsyuk blocking a shot if there is another option, but a guy with my playing history hasto appreciate that he does do it--being a the best shot blocker around is what got me on my college team in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Blocking shots properly is a skill. Jumping on the puck just because you got balls but no idea how to do it and keep your balls intact is plain stupid. There are cases when player got to try to block a shot but it does not mean dropping in front of every slapshot from blueline. I would prefer Dats to be in the lineup for the duration of playoffs rather than being knocked out because he blocked a shot with a wrong part of his body. I guess Cherry did not bother to notice that Datsyuk's defensive play is quite good. The guy is interesting to listen to sometimes but he is way too biased for his opinion to be respectable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 (edited) Pavel Datsyuk doesn't have the heart of Steve Yzerman. SHOCKING. Edited April 14, 2007 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Maybe Pavel thought he was playing soccer for a second Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pskov Wings Fan 71 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 That's Don Cherry for ya....fact is, Russians almost NEVER drop to the ice to block a shot, it's their instinct to stay upright because that's how they're taught to do it in Russia. That way you screen the goalie less and if you do block the shot you're in perfect position to chase it down for a potential breakaway. Just a little cultural difference. Not sure about this. I got to see a lot of Red Army team and the USSR team in the eighties and they did block a lot of shots by dropping on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arnoldbuck 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Maybe Pavel thought he was playing soccer for a second Nah, He doesn't dive enough. (pre-appologies to glasgow wing.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Datsyuk blocked 33 shots this sason. That's more than Draper, Zetterberg, Lecavalier, Eric Staal this season, and one Don Cherry in his whole career. Case closed. In the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Nah, He doesn't dive enough. (pre-appologies to glasgow wing.) LOL, classic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
betterREDthandead 58 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 He's been trashing the Wings all season. I use to really like Don, but he's been pissing me off lately. Oh well. I could care less what he says anymore. Lately? Like, since he started trashing the Wings? Let's face it folks. We already know Grapes has a thing about Europeans and French-Canadians. We all know the guy runs his mouth. We all know he's not afraid to speak his mind and he'd trash his own mother if she wore a visor. Why are we acting surprised? Oh right, because Grapes is finally on American TV trashing the Wings instead of on CBC trashing the Leafs. It's way too late to get righteously indignant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Well said Red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheWestWing 71 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 That's Don Cherry for ya....fact is, Russians almost NEVER drop to the ice to block a shot, it's their instinct to stay upright because that's how they're taught to do it in Russia. Ur talking the 'skilled' players correct cuz I think Volchenkov led the leagues in BkS. Oh right, because Grapes is finally on American TV trashing the Wings instead of on CBC trashing the Leafs. It's way too late to get righteously indignant. Actually I saw it on CBC - didnt know he said this on NBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saran 1 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 i dont like don cherry at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Never_Retire_Steve 35 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 No matter what the issue is, there will be people who will agree with him and say that he is the only one wh says how it is while there will be others who will be appalled by what he says. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Don Cherry has always slammed guys for blocking shots standing up the way Datsyuk did; I believe he calls it a "flamingo" or something like that. The fact that Pavel was covering his face only gave Don more to talk about. Still, I feel that this criticism is really unnecessary given the fact that Datsyuk finally had the breakout post-season game we've all been waiting for. I don't think it's fair that this wasn't mentioned at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted April 14, 2007 Ur talking the 'skilled' players correct cuz I think Volchenkov led the leagues in BkS. Actually I saw it on CBC - didnt know he said this on NBC. He hasen't even been on NBC yet... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
