Yc172 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Now throughout the playoffs I have been reading other teams sites message boards and in each round they all say the same thing. They all say that the VS crew is in love with the wings and wants the flames/sharks/ducks to fail. Now i have watched all the games and i havent really noticed this. Is this because im a wings fan? do they favor the wings? Also.. on a side note.. is it just frustration that on all these message boards the fans say the refs are screwing their teams? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 If they favored the wings more people would be picking them to win it. No one on espn had the wings getting by SJ and only one had them getting by the Ducks. They don't favor the Wings on Vs. either imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 No, they don't. Until the Wings are winning, they are old, tired, finished, weak, small, and overrated. The Ducks are clearly the better team and they had a bad game last night caused by poor officiating. Now, they have to deal with the loss of the classiest guy in the NHL (ranking up there with Iginla and J. Thornton). Wow, my sarcasm is overwhelming even myself. I just vomited typing that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 If they favored the wings more people would be picking them to win it. No one on espn had the wings getting by SJ and only one had them getting by the Ducks. They don't favor the Wings on Vs. either imo. I've noticed they do seem to have more features on them but haven't noticed a real bias myself. I assume they do more features because they're in a very good hockey market and are marketable so thats to be expected. I have no complaints about the refs in the slightest,calls even out its part of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) I think it is the complete opposite myself! every time the Wings game is on VS they seem to completely ass kiss the other team IMO, I rarely ever watch the intermission report. If you wan't some real unbiased hockey opinions I suggest you watch NHL On The Fly: Final, it is also on VS but is produced by NHL Network in Canada at about 1:00AM est, Very Very Fair to both teams IMO Edited May 17, 2007 by Elshupacabra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stellargirl21 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think it is the complete opposite myself! every time the Wings game is on VS they seem to completely ass kiss the other team IMO, I rarely ever watch the intermission report. I agree. I hate having to watch regular season games on VS or NBC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamaica Jon 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think it is the complete opposite myself! every time the Wings game is on VS they seem to completely ass kiss the other team IMO Totally agreed. It seems that every word out of the analysts mouths are a "How to Beat the Red Wings" or "Why the Ducks Should Win Tonight". Same with the announcers. If the Wings score it's "How can the Ducks respond?" if the Ducks score it's "How can the Ducks put the Wings away?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jwo 7 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Yes the media favors Detroit to fail. They have said all negative things about the Wings before each series. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZAMBONI 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think it is the complete opposite myself! every time the Wings game is on VS they seem to completely ass kiss the other team IMO, I rarely ever watch the intermission report. If you wan't some real unbiased hockey opinions I suggest you watch NHL On The Fly: Final, it is also on VS but is produced by NHL Network in Canada at about 1:00AM est, Very Very Fair to both teams IMO I watch it religiously it is a very well done show. ESPN really blew it not picking the nhl back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreamsofHope 2 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I don't think the media favors detroit and I think that is pretty clear, but I think part of that is because of all of the letdowns the wings have given them. They want to sound sophisticated, and they screwed themselves over too many times the last three years, when they favored the wings, so now they try and be those 'smart callers' and pick the 'underdogs.' I think this playoff run will hopefully be enough to put the wings back on their A list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Haha. If the media favored the Wings, they'd be picking them to win every series. Why don't you do a little research and find out for yourself how many analysts picked the Wings to beat the Ducks. That'll give you a good read on what type of bias there is when it comes to the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Why don't you do a little research and find out for yourself how many analysts picked the Wings to beat the Ducks. No s***. Or the Sharks, or the Flames, or win the West, or make the playoffs, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grsbmd 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I think they say that because Detroit is one of the few teams NBC is willing to show during the regular season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
#19forPresident! 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Now throughout the playoffs I have been reading other teams sites message boards and in each round they all say the same thing. They all say that the VS crew is in love with the wings and wants the flames/sharks/ducks to fail. Now i have watched all the games and i havent really noticed this. Is this because im a wings fan? do they favor the wings? Also.. on a side note.. is it just frustration that on all these message boards the fans say the refs are screwing their teams? No they do not love us because they're Detroit fans, but the media does rally with whoever is doing well and we happened to win every series so far after we were picked to lose. Although I can't stand VS commentary on the whole, I will give all sports media credit it is a TOUGH JOB to cover a spots event and not seem biased to one team or another. They simply get behind the team that is doing well, and they often do seem biased for it, but if we were sucking that game they were also against us. If you remember back before every series they doubt us, doubt us, doubt us, get behind the opposition until we start doing well then they remark about our good play. It happened in round one vs. Calgary, two vs. SJ, and its happening now, but as I said before I can't blame them. Its hard to cover a game and do color commentary without saying "this team is doing well" or etc. etc. and if they say things bad about the team doing well then they seem baised against them. So in my opnion they have a fine line to tread. So in short, my opinion is sportscasters are fairweather fans pretty much by default, its their job to analyze what people winning did right, and what people losing did wrong, and that will always make them seem biased against losers and in suport of the winners. Even the infamous super mullet man himself Mr.Melrose has to do some backpeddaling when he does game analysis and recaps for ESPN, he picks against us round in and round out every time we win he still talks about what we did great, its his job I can about guarantee he'd love to see us lose, but he's not gonna come out and say that on TV. Edited May 17, 2007 by #19forPresident! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yc172 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) Haha. If the media favored the Wings, they'd be picking them to win every series. Why don't you do a little research and find out for yourself how many analysts picked the Wings to beat the Ducks. That'll give you a good read on what type of bias there is when it comes to the Wings. Why don't you do a little research and find out for yourself how many analysts picked the Wings to beat the Ducks. No s***. Or the Sharks, or the Flames, or win the West, or make the playoffs, etc. Thanks.. i have done all the research.. and thats why my question wasnt: does the media favor the wings? (even though that is the title of the topic) its about the opposing teams fans thinking that the media favors the wings. I actually said that I really didnt notice it.. but anyways.. it just gets really annoying hearing all these people complain (especially calgary) about how they got robbed and some of them cant just admit they just got beat. Edited May 17, 2007 by Yc172 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Now throughout the playoffs I have been reading other teams sites message boards and in each round they all say the same thing. They all say that the VS crew is in love with the wings and wants the flames/sharks/ducks to fail. Now i have watched all the games and i havent really noticed this. Is this because im a wings fan? do they favor the wings? Also.. on a side note.. is it just frustration that on all these message boards the fans say the refs are screwing their teams? One word: NO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Thanks.. i have done all the research.. and thats why my question wasnt: does the media favor the wings? (even though that is the title of the topic) its about the opposing teams fans thinking that the media favors the wings. I actually said that I really didnt notice it.. but anyways.. it just gets really annoying hearing all these people complain (especially calgary) about how they got robbed and some of them cant just admit they just got beat. Ahh I didnt mean for that to sound condescending, I just meant that maybe you should research it and find out what the numbers are. You probably wouldnt have to look long to realize that pretty much every analyst has the wings competition over the Wings in every series so far. Just to add to this thread, not that its a surprise but Don Cherry just made a few comments in relation to the Wings-Ducks. "Chris Pronger is the most effective player in the game." "Seems like all the bounces are going the Wings way in this series." "Hasek looks like he could play 90 games." Not much of a Wings bias there, but then again Cherry's comments are always skewed by his Canadian bias. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yc172 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 "Chris Pronger is the most effective player in the game." "Seems like all the bounces are going the Wings way in this series." "Hasek looks like he could play 90 games." I was just watching that and thinking the same thing but just for arguments sake.. do you think that we dont think that they are more biased towards the wings just because we are red wings fans? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 As stated, a lot of the big media outlets have predicted against the Wings more often than not, at least this season. And it's understandable, so many changes for the Wings this year with Yzerman retiring and Shanahan leaving. Who knows what kinda chemistry the team was developing, how Bertuzzi would be going into the playoffs, and such. Were they going to be the same old Wings as recent past? I'm not surprised that a lot of media outlets weren't sure about the Wings going into the playoffs. It's not bad, it's not slighting the Wings, it is what it is. I certainly wasn't sure as well what to expect either, I didn't really have too high expectations for this playoffs, just try to get out of the first round. I think some of the uncertainty by the media and myself is finally getting answered as a result of the latter part of the San Jose series, and especially after the convincing 5-0 win last night. What is humorous to me is plenty of members in here getting all worked up over it that people can actually go against and be uncertain about the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yc172 3 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 the only reason that i am so curious about this is because all three groups of fans somehow seem to feel very strongly about the VS. crew rooting for the wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingsgirl 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Now throughout the playoffs I have been reading other teams sites message boards and in each round they all say the same thing. They all say that the VS crew is in love with the wings and wants the flames/sharks/ducks to fail. Now i have watched all the games and i havent really noticed this. Is this because im a wings fan? do they favor the wings? Also.. on a side note.. is it just frustration that on all these message boards the fans say the refs are screwing their teams? I think this really depends on which perspective you are looking at this from. No one likes to hear the other team hyped up and bad things about thier team's play. I think that all fans have the tendency to highlight what they don't like to hear and then that sticks out in their mind. It's all a matter of perspecive and what color glass you have on. Which is why I LOVE being able to watch the game on FSN Detroit because then the announcers are wearing the same colored shades as me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 In the season they were all about the Wings, but the second the playoffs started they've been nothing but negative. I remember Eddie Olcyck would constantly say great things about the Wings, and now all of a sudden he's ragging on them. Same goes for Doc. The only one I think truly likes the Wings and wants to see them do well is Pierre..but that's just what I think.. Anyways..is it me or did it seem like Doc and Eddie were about to cry or something last night when the Wings were up 4-0? Haha okay maybe not cry..but they seemed soooo down about it and got all quiet. Then they kept repeating "Well no lead is safe and bla bla bla" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dw185 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Seems to me that whenever the Ducks take a shot, the announcers on VS get a hard on and start screaming and cheering. When the wings shoot, if it's not a goal it's a disappointment and isn't very good hockey etc.. etc.. I'm curious as to how they will try to spin the pronger suspension... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heroes of Hockeytown 694 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 The only one I think truly likes the Wings and wants to see them do well is Pierre..but that's just what I think.. Pierre is a HUUUUGE Wings homer. It's obvious he loves the guys and is rooting for them. I'm sure it's driven Flames/Sharks/Ducks fans nuts. Then they kept repeating "Well no lead is safe and bla bla bla" Yeah, I had a good laugh when Eddie O brought that up... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I know Burnside @ ESPN is rooting for us, and even Bucci, even though he didn't pick us to win I know he is rooting for the Wings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
