LGW's all time all-star team

[Opie 308]

So I was interested to see what people's all time all star team would be. I guess it could be an all-time wings all star but when I originally thought about it I was thinking entire NHL.

Post your all time all star roster ( mine are a little center heavy)

Bo. Hull - W. Gretzky - G. Howe

B. Esposito - M. Dionne - M. Richard

M. Messier - S. Yzerman - J. Kurri

J. Jagr - M. Lemeiux - M. Bossy

N. Lidstrom - R. Bourque

B. Orr - E. Shore

D. Harvey - D. Potvin

Sawchuck

Broduer

Wings-

Abel - Howe - Lindsay

Delvecchio - Federov - Gallant

Shanny - Yzerman - Probert

Ullman - Larinov - Ogrodnick

Lids - Fetisov

Konstantinov - Coffey

Larson - Kelly

Sawchuck

Hasek (I know, I know only a couple of years but he was damn good in '02)

[wingsfan75 2]

I tend to agree with a lot of your choices but a couple missing from the line-up IMO are Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull.

[betterREDthandead 58]

I tend to agree with a lot of your choices but a couple missing from the line-up IMO are Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull.

Well, if you're going to include guys who were only Wings for just a couple years, Marcel Dionne should be mentioned too, probably above Lucky Luc. I'm assuming you do mean from the Wings lineup, anyway.

[Winged Scooter 0]

Just out of curiosity, is your Wings roster based on a certain number of years with the Wings? I just ask because Gallant, Ogrodnick, and Larson strike me as curious picks. ( Not BAD ones, just curious...)

Edited November 1, 2007 by Winged Scooter

[betterREDthandead 58]

Just out of curiosity, is your Wings roster based on a certain number of years with the Wings? I just ask because Gallant, Ogrodnick, and Larson strike me as curious picks. ( Not BAD ones, just curious...)

Ogrodnick and Larson are actually on the Wings top-10 all-time scoring list.

But I would replace Gallant with Ebbie Goodfellow, who I think was the best player of the Wings/Falcons/Cougars early teams of the 1930's. And maybe swap Probert for Syd Howe of the same era.

[eva unit zero 271]

Just out of curiosity, is your Wings roster based on a certain number of years with the Wings? I just ask because Gallant, Ogrodnick, and Larson strike me as curious picks. ( Not BAD ones, just curious...)

I think his roster is based on overall performance with the Wings, rather than being a roster of greats who happened to play for the Wings at some point.

[GMRwings1983 8,794]

I tend to agree with a lot of your choices but a couple missing from the line-up IMO are Luc Robitaille and Brett Hull.

Marcel Pronovost should also be on that list. How about Pavel or Hank? They're both superstars, and have been here for a number of years. I'd put both of them over Gallant, Ogrodnick, or Larionov. Larionov was a great player, but he was always past his prime in Detroit, where Pavel and Hank are both in their primes right now. I'm too lazy right now to critique your NHL list, but it looks good on its face.

[Opie 308]

I think his roster is based on overall performance with the Wings, rather than being a roster of greats who happened to play for the Wings at some point.

Spot on assessment as usual eva!

There were some guys on there stat wise that (like Sid Howe) that I didn't know a lot about so I over looked them.

Pavel and Hank, I didn't think have earned their way on to the list yet, but I think the ability he had even as an old Fogey was still high on the list to me.

But this is an opinion based thread so I would like to see others, even if it is just the tweaking of mine like is going on now.

Good discussion!!

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

GST's All-time team. The perfect blend of talent and grit = 42% talent, 8267% grit

Line One

LW Dave "Tiger" Williams

C Denis Savard

RW Gordie Howe

Line Two

LW Brendan Shanahan

C Bobby Clarke

RW Bob Probert

Line Three

LW Al Secord

C Kris Draper ----i'm serious, can you think of another player of the past decade that does everything for you?

RW Cam Neely

Checking Line

LW Dave Schultz

C Dale Hunter

RW Joey Kocur

D1

Scott Stevens

Vladimir Konstantinov

D2

Chris Chelios

Ulf Samuelsson

D3

Bryan Marchment

Dave Manson

[HomeNugget 2]

all time:

Bobby Hull - Wayne Gretzkey - Gordie Howe

Luc Robataille - Mario Lemieux - Maurice Richard

Johnny Bucyk - Phil Esposito - Guy Lafleur

Ted Lindsay - Henri Richard - Mike Bossy

Bobby Orr - Doug Harvey

Eddie Shore - Nicklas Lidstrom

Ray Bourque - Vladimir Konstantinov

Terry Sawchuk

Jacques Plante

red wings:

Ted Lindsay - Sid Abel - Gordie Howe

Brendan Shanahan - Steve Yzerman - Mickey Redmond

Vyacheslav Kozlov - Alex Delvecchio - Larry Aurie

Gerard Gallant - Sergei Fedorov - Bob Probert

Nicklas Lidstrom - Vladimir Konstantinov

Red Kelly - Ebbie Goodfellow

Chris Chelios - Jack Stewart

Terry Sawchuk

Chris Osgood

i did my best to keep everyone at their natural positon. i also tried to choose players who are most closely associated with the red wings. chelios is one exception, but he's played for us almost as long as he's played for anyone else.

[wingsfan75 2]

Well, if you're going to include guys who were only Wings for just a couple years, Marcel Dionne should be mentioned too, probably above Lucky Luc. I'm assuming you do mean from the Wings lineup, anyway.

Actually, I was thinking league-wide. I realized that both were Wings also but I just figured that with Luc being the highest scoring Left Winger of all time he'd at least be taken into consideration. Hull is one of the few who scored 700+ goals so I thought as another Winger he'd also be taken into consideration league-wide. It's only opinion anyway.

[TheBadOne 0]

My 23-Player rosters...

All- Time:

Lemieux-Gretzky-Bossy

Howe-Dionne-Richard

Messier-Yzerman-Savard

Hull - Trottier- LaFleur

(S) Francis, Gilmour

Orr - Lidstrom

Stevens-Bourque

Coffey-Murphy

(S)Housley

Sawchuk

Brodeur

Red Wings - Modern Era only:

Probert - Yzerman - Gallant

Larionov - Fedorov - Kozlov

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Shananan

Maltby - Draper - McCarty

(S) Kocur - Oates

Lidstrom - Coffey

Fetisov - Konstantinov

Murphy - Chelios

Hasek (No. 1)

Osgood (No. 1A)

Edited November 1, 2007 by TheBadOne

[Izzy24 44]

GST's All-time team. The perfect blend of talent and grit = 42% talent, 8267% grit

Line One

LW Dave "Tiger" Williams

C Denis Savard

RW Gordie Howe

Line Two

LW Brendan Shanahan

C Bobby Clarke

RW Bob Probert

Line Three

LW Al Secord

C Kris Draper ----i'm serious, can you think of another player of the past decade that does everything for you?

RW Cam Neely

Checking Line

LW Dave Schultz

C Dale Hunter

RW Joey Kocur

D1

Scott Stevens

Vladimir Konstantinov

D2

Chris Chelios

Ulf Samuelsson

D3

Bryan Marchment

Dave Manson

Who's playing goal? I suppose Chelios could.

[datsyukismyfriend 4]

Who's playing goal? I suppose Chelios could.

yeah, we know, what's to stop him, right?

[Izzy24 44]

No mention of Roy on anyone's list?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Who's playing goal? I suppose Chelios could.

Why would I need a goalie? Considering my team is stacked with guys of questionable character and a penchant for buggery, I don't see too many opponents getting the chance to skate down the ice towards my goal anyways. An elbow to the mouth here, a summit series slash by clarkie there and voila!, opponents left sprawled out on the ice in pools of their own blood.

But yes, chelly would probably play pseudo goalie because..............well, because he's chelios and there's nothing to stop him.

PS: If I must have a goalie of course it'd be Ron, the mad chopper Hextall

Edited November 1, 2007 by GordieSid&Ted

[norrisnick 1]

PS: If I must have a goalie of course it'd be Ron, the mad chopper Hextall

Just for you...

All NHL

Wing line :: Lindsay - Yzerman - Howe

Wayne line :: Bo. Hull - Gretzky - Bossy

Frenchy line :: Lemieux - Beliveau - Rocket

Checking line :: Trottier - Fedorov - Clarke

X Gillies

Bruins :: Orr - Shore

Habs :: Harvey - Robinson

#5s :: Lidstrom - Potvin

X Chelios

Sawchuk

Parent

Bowman

All Wings

Lindsay - Abel - Howe

Shanahan - Fedorov - Yzerman

Ullman - Delvecchio - Redmond

Kozlov - Larionov - Gallant

X Probert

Lidstrom - Kelly

Stewart - Konstantinov

Chelios - Murphy

X Larson

Sawchuk

Osgood

Bowman

[toby91_ca 620]

My 23-Player rosters...

All- Time:

Lemieux-Gretzky-Bossy

Howe-Dionne-Richard

Messier-Yzerman-Savard

Hull - Trottier- LaFleur

(S) Francis, Gilmour

Orr - Lidstrom

Stevens-Bourque

Coffey-Murphy

(S)Housley

Sawchuk

Brodeur

Red Wings - Modern Era only:

Probert - Yzerman - Gallant

Larionov - Fedorov - Kozlov

Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Shananan

Maltby - Draper - McCarty

(S) Kocur - Oates

Lidstrom - Coffey

Fetisov - Konstantinov

Murphy - Chelios

Hasek (No. 1)

Osgood (No. 1A)

Not having Harvey in your top 7 defensemen = automatic failure. It's also very curious that 6 of the 7 defensemen happen to have played during the past 10 years or so.

[Doggy 130]

I can't believe no-one has put in Sakic.

[redmathew 0]

are we forgetting that Dom is the greatest goalie in the modern era, and is way better then marty.(as of right now)

1st place  Most games played by a European born goaltender (694)

3rd place  Most shutouts of all active players

4th place  Most wins of all active players

7th place  Most shutouts (76)

8th place  Lowest goals against average (2.20)

14th place  Most wins (362)

First European goalie to lead the NHL in GAA (1993–94)

First goalie since 1974 to have a GAA below 2.00 (1993–94)

Most shutouts in one month (six in 97–98)

Playoffs

2nd place  Most shutouts in one season (6)

3rd place  Most shutouts (15)

10th place  Most wins (61)

2 Harts

2 Lesters

6 Vezna's

2 Jennings

Stanley Cup

Olympic Gold

Olympic MVP

Plus more!

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Just for you...

All NHL

Very Nice NN! Jeezus was Hexy f'in crazy or what. What a psycho. Makes Belfour and Cloutier look like model citizens.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

are we forgetting that Dom is the greatest goalie in the modern era, and is way better then marty.(as of right now)

1st place  Most games played by a European born goaltender (694)

3rd place  Most shutouts of all active players

4th place  Most wins of all active players

7th place  Most shutouts (76)

8th place  Lowest goals against average (2.20)

14th place  Most wins (362)

First European goalie to lead the NHL in GAA (1993–94)

First goalie since 1974 to have a GAA below 2.00 (1993–94)

Most shutouts in one month (six in 97–98)

Playoffs

2nd place  Most shutouts in one season (6)

3rd place  Most shutouts (15)

10th place  Most wins (61)

2 Harts

2 Lesters

6 Vezna's

2 Jennings

Stanley Cup

Olympic Gold

Olympic MVP

Plus more!

Where do you buy your weed? I just want to know cause that stuff must seriously work for you to make those crazy claims of him being way better than Marty.

First of all, what anything has to do with him being European I don't know. That's like saying Jordin Tootoo is in first place in every category for Inuit's in NHL history. Where he hails from only matters when compared to goalies from the same place, ie Europe. If we're talking straight numbers you may as well throw out all the Euro stuff.

Marty Brodeur

Wins-2nd all time = way more than Hasek and eventually, more than Roy

Shutouts-3rd all time = more than Hasek

Most overtime wins

Most consecutive 30 win seasons

most cons. 35 win seasons

Most 40 win seasons

Most shutouts in a playoff year

most shutouts in a single cup finals

2nd all time playoff shutouts

2nd all time playoff wins

Calder trophy

3 STANLEY CUPS

9 time all star

4 jennings

3 vezinas

Olympic Gold

2004 World Cup

youngest goalie to 300 and 400 wins

You put alot of Hasek's stats up there but failed to note that most all of them fall behind Brodeur's.

"way better than Marty"?????????????

again, where do you buy that weed yur smokin?

[arnoldbuck 0]

I'm a little suprised at Bobby gettin a few more nods than Brett. True, in all fairness, I wasn't able to watch Bobby Hull play, but Brett is undeniably one of the best goal scorers of all time. I think if you could have made a line around 1991-92, with Brett Hull, Lemieux and Gretzky, their numbers would have been disgusting.

[BeeRYCE 2]

Try and stop this team...

Lemieux - Gretzky - Kurri

Bo. Hull - Yzerman - Howe

Ovechkin - Fedorov - Bure

Kariya - Hawerchuk - Selanne

Orr - Macinnis

Lidstrom - Robinson

Coffey - Stevens

Roy

Sawchuk

JUST TRY!

[norrisnick 1]

I'm a little suprised at Bobby gettin a few more nods than Brett. True, in all fairness, I wasn't able to watch Bobby Hull play, but Brett is undeniably one of the best goal scorers of all time. I think if you could have made a line around 1991-92, with Brett Hull, Lemieux and Gretzky, their numbers would have been disgusting.

Bobby sort of hurt his legacy by bolting to the WHA right in the heart of his prime. Had he stayed in the NHL from start to finish Brett never would have caught daddy on the scoring leader board. The general consensus is that Bobby was most definitely the better player.