Doggy 130 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 Damn! I suppose Hasek had to play again eventually. It's a shame though. I would've LOVED us to have knocked off the Habs. You never know - maybe the team will score more goals than they allow shots and Dom will get the W. Just kidding guys. I'm not that pessimistic. I hope Dom plays well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Look, I'll admit, I am a Dom fan. But, being un-biased, i can truly say that Dom has not had a good season thus far. Now, I can say that Dom's last game was a big improvement over his previous games, but can say he has a ways to go to get back to the good 'ol Dom. Obviosuly, Dom will not be as good as he once was, but I think the guy has been working his butt off so he can deliver us at least for this last season, a good one. Now, I know many of you, as my friends too, are not pleased that Dom gets the start in Montreal... but I see this as a good thing. Starting up on the road is good for Dom because I am sure Detroit fans are not the happiest with him right now, and it is a test to make sure he can get past the Montreal surrounding. Also, Montreal is a pretty good team this year, and will generate a good amount of shots on Dom, which is a good thing because it will give him more confidence, allow him to get more comftorable in net, and get him back to his old self. If Dom can, and I believe will, play good in Montreal, than we can dominate. This game is important for Dom, which will make him play better. He knows that if he doesn't show improvement that Ozzy could very well take over, therefore I think Dom will surprise many people tomorrow, and be back to his old self.... Good luck Dom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 look, dom can gain redemption by having a strong game and getting a W tomorrow against the habs. national TV, original six match up; in montreal, im pumped! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) He will gain it for that game and then he will have to keep earning it each and every game... One good game against an original 6 doesn't mean its time to hand over the reighns again. Edited December 4, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 He will gain it for that game and then he will have to keep earning it each and every game... One good game against an original 6 doesn't mean its time to hand over the reighns again. well obviously no but its a definite start. high intensity place, on the road. i think this game will be a big gage to see exactly where Hasek is. as all of us know, this season thus far, it hasnt been good. and do you think that Ozzie can really take the Wings to a cup win? i lovee ozzie as much as the next guy, but im not so sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Either one can and will win the cup. Dont really matter who to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 If given a chance to play... sure as hell do! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Ozzie is playing better than he did in 97-98 and people still doubt he can win a cup... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 and do you think that Ozzie can really take the Wings to a cup win? i lovee ozzie as much as the next guy, but im not so sure. Whoa! Major deja vu. I believe I've heard that before. Come on that attitude is SOO 1998. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Whoa! Major deja vu. I believe I've heard that before. Come on that attitude is SOO 1998. i hope you alll are right. i want to be wrong here. but i just dont know if an osgood who is ten years older than his last cup can take us all the way to another championship,granted he is playing close to-if not the best hockey of his career, but im still not sold on him. not in december. not yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) i hope you alll are right. i want to be wrong here. but i just dont know if an osgood who is ten years older than his last cup can take us all the way to another championship,granted he is playing close to-if not the best hockey of his career, but im still not sold on him. not in december. not yet. Being 10 years older has nothing to do with it. Ozzie is playing some of his best hockey, if not best. If anything you get better with age. He just seems much more comfortable and at ease now. He's even said it himself. Ozzie can win a Cup at 25 and 35. Look at Dom. He won it at 37. Have some faith! Edited December 4, 2007 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Being 10 years older has nothing to do with it. Ozzie is playing some of his best hockey, if not best. If anything you get better with age. He just seems much more comfortable and at ease now. He's even said it himself. Ozzie can win a Cup at 25 and 35. Look at Dom. He won it at 37. Have some faith! If its true he gets finer with age, then i nominate his new theme song to be "Red Red Wine". I mean how perfect is that...i should be running the JLA music. Edited December 4, 2007 by Lou_Siffer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 i hope you alll are right. i want to be wrong here. but i just dont know if an osgood who is ten years older than his last cup can take us all the way to another championship,granted he is playing close to-if not the best hockey of his career, but im still not sold on him. not in december. not yet. Yeah but if Ozzie's too old...than Dom is definitely WAY too old. ERM. Jimmy Howard... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Yeah but if Ozzie's too old...than Dom is definitely WAY too old. ERM. Jimmy Howard... im not saying osgood is TOO old, im saying its unfair to just stand up and say he can take the Wings all the way to a Cup by looking and sayin "hey, ozzie did it in 98, why not now?" because of a hot start. i just cant. if osgood goes like this all the way throughout the season, ill be the first guy to support him and stand behind him. well see.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Well there is no question that Ozzie has been extremely solid so far this season However, Doesn't anyone remember that Hasek was almost a god like last year playoffs? He played with tremendous poise and concentration which I have yet to see from Ozzie. Yes Ozzie might be able to elevate his game as well when given tougher tasks but ,as we all know already, Hasek is a proven former multiple vezina and heart trophy winner and he has done that consistantly throughout his career albeit few mishaps. It is easy to understand why Babcock wants Hasek to get going. Hasek is getting some heat here now, which is fair given his recent poor showing. However let's try to give Hasek some breaks here guys, he definately earned it. Edited December 4, 2007 by Yemack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Hasek wi ll get there, guys. His last game he looked much better. Instead of attacking each other and whining about how our preferred goalie is getting the shaft somehow, why don't we all stop for a minute and realize that there is a GOOD possibility that by the end of the season, we're going to be rooting for a team with TWO amazing goalies in peak form. Can you imagine having the ability to rotate goalies in the playoffs whenever necessary and have absolute confidence in either one? The other teams would never be able to adapt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) im not saying osgood is TOO old, im saying its unfair to just stand up and say he can take the Wings all the way to a Cup by looking and sayin "hey, ozzie did it in 98, why not now?" because of a hot start. i just cant. if osgood goes like this all the way throughout the season, ill be the first guy to support him and stand behind him. well see.. Yet what qualifications do you have for Dom being able to do it... a SUCK ASS start and past accomplishments? The play this season means more to me that 50 billions vezinas he got BEFORE he came to the wings the FIRST time. Just letting you know the first 5 spots have already been taken LONG before ozzie started "playing good"... just an FYI.... you will have to join the end of the line like the rest of the late comers. Edited December 4, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 im not saying osgood is TOO old, im saying its unfair to just stand up and say he can take the Wings all the way to a Cup by looking and sayin "hey, ozzie did it in 98, why not now?" because of a hot start. i just cant. if osgood goes like this all the way throughout the season, ill be the first guy to support him and stand behind him. well see.. It's more a case of us saying, "hey, ozzie is 12-1-1, why cant he win it now?" Seriously, his stats are ridiculous right now and we have the most consistent offense in the league. How could ANYONE be blamed for believing Ozzie can do it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) He played with tremendous poise and concentration which I have yet to see from Ozzie. You could just as easily say Ozzie is playing at a level we have yet to see from Dom this season. It's great that Dom had a good run last season, and I'd certainly love a repeat. But we're talking about the here and now, and Dom needs to pick it up in the here and now. And I'm sure he will. But I'll tell you what, if Ozzie keeps playing at this level, he'll have earned a nod in the postseason. Edited December 4, 2007 by Dabura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 (edited) Well there is no question that Ozzie has been extremely solid so far this season However, Doesn't anyone remember that Hasek was almost a god like last year playoffs? He played with tremendous poise and concentration which I have yet to see from Ozzie. Yes Ozzie might be able to elevate his game as well when given tougher tasks but ,as we all know already, Hasek is a proven former multiple vezina and heart trophy winner and he has done that consistantly throughout his career albeit few mishaps. It is easy to understand why Babcock wants Hasek to get going. Hasek is getting some heat here now, which is fair given his recent poor showing. However let's try to give Hasek some breaks here guys, he definately earned it. And he is playing like absolute s*** this year... which is a better measuring stick towards 2007-2008 season? Earned it how... by having the last named spelled H-A-S-E-K how exactly has he earned s*** in his short time here? Edited December 4, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 And he is playing like absolute s*** this year... which is a better measuring stick towards 2007-2008 season? Earned it how... by having the last named spelled H-A-S-E-K how exactly has he earned s*** in his short time here? wth? Yes Hasek has played like s*** so far this season but he played great last year playoffs (and a lof of years before that) so our team wants him to get going... see maybe if he still has something left in his tank. What's so difficult to understand? Don't you want everyone in Wings uniform to perform at their best? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Anyone notice that the Hasek people like to live in the past... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Anyone notice that the Hasek people like to live in the past... so If I'm considered as a Hasek people, our coaching staff must be living in the past as well seeing how they give Hasek start tonight? I'm no Hasek supporter. I've been a loyal Wings fan since 93 and if anything I'm all for Ozzie having a great season. But bottom line is, I want Hasek to find his form again. You could just as easily say Ozzie is playing at a level we have yet to see from Dom this season. It's great that Dom had a good run last season, and I'd certainly love a repeat. But we're talking about the here and now, and Dom needs to pick it up in the here and now. And I'm sure he will. But I'll tell you what, if Ozzie keeps playing at this level, he'll have earned a nod in the postseason. Yes as for who should start in playoff, whoever plays better and gives us more confidence should be the one, I don't care if it is Hasek, Ozzie or Howard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 so If I'm considered as a Hasek people, our coaching staff must be living in the past as well seeing how they give Hasek start tonight? I'm no Hasek supporter. I've been a loyal Wings fan since 93 and if anything I'm all for Ozzie having a great season. But bottom line is, I want Hasek to find his form again. Giving him the start today? No. Claiming that he is still the #1? Yes. I would just hate to see Osgood get the boot come playoff time because they are banking on Hasek's past accolades. It's great if Hasek turns it around but, at the same time, how do you determine whether or not he is playing better than Ozzie? Again, his past accolades? Keep playing Ozzie and racking up the W's so when they have a comfortable lead to remain the top seed Hasek can do more than just spot start. So what if he pisses and moans. After the groin debacle I really don't see how his say means anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted December 4, 2007 Giving him the start today? No. Claiming that he is still the #1? Yes. I would just hate to see Osgood get the boot come playoff time because they are banking on Hasek's past accolades. It's great if Hasek turns it around but, at the same time, how do you determine whether or not he is playing better than Ozzie? Again, his past accolades? Keep playing Ozzie and racking up the W's so when they have a comfortable lead to remain the top seed Hasek can do more than just spot start. So what if he pisses and moans. After the groin debacle I really don't see how his say means anything. Finally we are getting somewhere. yes I would absolutely hate to see Ozzie get the boots just because it's Hasek. However, if it comes to that though, I don't think Babcock will ever let that happen As for how we determine who plays better? well I guess everyone will have their own view on this subject but if you ask for mine, I think Hasek in his top form has more upside than what Ozzie has shown so far. Best case scenario for me would be Hasek playing great, on par with last year performance but Ozzie tops it. (well actually I'll just settle for Stanley Cup) Hasek shouldn’t have much to moan about if he can see for himself that Ozzie has surpassed him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites