IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 I think we can all just be thankful we do not have Bryzgalov.... He let in Five in the first! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,149 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 I like that appluad yourself. Honestly I did not look at the differance from Ozzy and Lundqvist. Good POINT! Really. As far as talking out of my ass I don't hate Ozzy!!! I love Ozzy!!! I love Dom as well. I just do not agree that Ozzy is the soul reason for our record this season. Or the second soul reason ...nobody is saying he is the sole reason we are where we are. Yet, if You put Dom in the majority of these games and he continues to let in 4 goals on the same 18 shots that Ozzie is letting in 1 goal on, we are nowhere near the team we are now. I would give a crude percentage breakdown like this for the reason we are doing so good. Osgood 25% Eurotwins and the Demo man 25% the rest of the team 50%... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 I like that appluad yourself. Honestly I did not look at the differance from Ozzy and Lundqvist. Good POINT! Really. As far as talking out of my ass I don't hate Ozzy!!! I love Ozzy!!! I love Dom as well. I just do not agree that Ozzy is the soul reason for our record this season. Or the second soul reason Those are mutually exclusive, I think it's a rule. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Chi-town has our number. But if you take all the Windy games away it is 2 loses to 1. Just something to think about. Actually it would be 2 losses to zero. Just something else to think about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Actually it would be 2 losses to zero. Just something else to think about. oh snap Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Those are mutually exclusive, I think it's a rule. Or so the many members of LGW would have you believe...I obviously have my favorite but I have always liked Ozzy and I am happy for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 ugh...Good for Osgood...bad for me. I just wish Babcock would get Hasek in there a little bit more. We all know how sensitive Hasek is (very similar to the way you coddle a baby) and he is going to get pissed and more and more sucky if he is not being put in these games. I personally feel we need him more than Ozzie. I think Ozzie is playing great and all but Hasek is a proven number 1 who is going through a slump. I do NOT think that means confining him to the bench. Plus he is on my fantasy hockey team and he hasn't played yet this week. I hate to say it, but Belfour was a proven number 1 goaltender too. And he's over in Europe now. Just because a tender has proven themselves to be a number 1 goalie in the past doesn't always make it so in the present. On the other side of the coin, Ozzie's a proven number 1 goaltender too. It's all a matter of perspective. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Actually it would be 2 losses to zero. Just something else to think about. HMMM? I was trying to do the math here. It appears we were both wrong, it would be 3 to 1. Cuase OT loses still count.... Snap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Well both teams really sucked last night, hopefully they can bite the big one again against our team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Don't Ozzy and Dom have the same team in front of them when they play? Yup, but this another example of the reversal in this drama from last year. The pro-Osgood crowd stated the exact same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 Some of you are missing the point. It's not about the number of losses, or if you take away Hasek's losses to Chicago. It's not even about GAA. It's about the save percentage and the QUALITY of shots. Hasek is allowing goals he has no business letting through. We cannot count on him to make big saves anymore one-on-one or whenever there is a player parked in front of him. We CAN count on Osgood. The goals against Osgood have been of higher quality. True, some of the goals against Hasek couldn't be stopped by any goalie, but the vast majority could have and SHOULD have been stopped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Offsides 21 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 If you just follow the law of goaltending in Detroit you will know who to point your finger at. So I will help you all out. 1. If we win with Ozzie in net...you can credit the team. 2. If we lose with Ozzie in net...you can blame Ozzie. 3. If we win the Hasek in net...you can credit Hasek. 4. If we lose with Hasek in net...you can blame the team. It is simple. You don't have to watch the games now...just follow the rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 (edited) Yup, but this another example of the reversal in this drama from last year. The pro-Osgood crowd stated the exact same thing. Well perhaps but with a way more emphasis on JUST LETTING HIM PLAY... not really carring about the TEAM affecting his play, just letting him play... Even in his limited time Ozzie still wasn't 42nd in the league in any stat The teams do play different in front of goalies... they all do... however do teams really account for the gap between 1st and 42nd... I think NOT. Being an "elite" goalie i would be forced to assume Dom always has had good stats even on horrific teams.... What gives now?? Me thinkings its Dom. Take it for what you will the team doesn't go from playing 1st for Ozzie and 42nd for Dom... THAT is impossible.... and faulty logic to assume so. Edited December 1, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rick Zombos Ghost 82 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 is Dandeneault still on montreal? never wanted to see him go. him and lebda would be the fastest defense combo in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IceMunkee 15 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 If you just follow the law of goaltending in Detroit you will know who to point your finger at. So I will help you all out. 1. If we win with Ozzie in net...you can credit the team. 2. If we lose with Ozzie in net...you can blame Ozzie. 3. If we win the Hasek in net...you can credit Hasek. 4. If we lose with Hasek in net...you can blame the team. It is simple. You don't have to watch the games now...just follow the rules. LOL. Not me! I always blame the goalie first. I am a traditional Detroit fan!!! Esspecially since Lang left Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jeremy88 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 That game winning goal chicago got where they beat us 5-3 was ridiculous. The guy was on a half breakaway, with kronwall right next to him so he couldn't deke, so he just shot the puck straight, and hasek let it by. That's not how a starting goaltender should play. Well, I guess we're gonna lose against montreal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted December 1, 2007 That game winning goal chicago got where they beat us 5-3 was ridiculous. The guy was on a half breakaway, with kronwall right next to him so he couldn't deke, so he just shot the puck straight, and hasek let it by. That's not how a starting goaltender should play. Well, I guess we're gonna lose against montreal I don't want to be one of those people, but I too have come to expect a loss when Dom's in net. Prove me wrong, Dom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted December 2, 2007 That game winning goal chicago got where they beat us 5-3 was ridiculous. The guy was on a half breakaway, with kronwall right next to him so he couldn't deke, so he just shot the puck straight, and hasek let it by. That's not how a starting goaltender should play. Well, I guess we're gonna lose against montreal You got a magic crystal ball or something? You know this how? The game hasn't even been played yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted December 2, 2007 (edited) LOL. Only Zetterberg? The only reason that Ozzie does as well as he has is the team in front of him. There has not been ONE game stolen by either goaltender. I could not agree more Puckloo. Sorry that the Ozzy Trolls have to belittle everything you say. The fact of the matter is that the team in front of Ozzy makes Ozzy. Also with DOM. Again not a game stealer yet! OsGod, I like you but really! GIVE IT A REST! You have become nothing but a troll of late. Ozzy is not that great of a goaltender. He is having a GREAT year, sure. A great goaltender, I don't think so. Ozzy has not really picked up any slack at all. Dom has 5 losses. 3 of which is to Chicago. Which Ozzy could not beat either. Chi-town has our number. But if you take all the Windy games away it is 2 loses to 1. Just something to think about. Last time I checked, Hasek had the same team in front of him as Ozzie does. So what exactly is your point? The team only plays hard for Osgood and none of this is Hasek's fault? Edited December 2, 2007 by GoWings1905 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SylenT 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 I think Dom agaisnt Montreal is a great test! Specially on the PP since montreal is #1 in that department.I still have faith in Dom and I think he will pick up his game. As of now Osgood should be our #1 till Hasek can prove to the team he can be #1! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 I think Dom agaisnt Montreal is a great test! Specially on the PP since montreal is #1 in that department.I still have faith in Dom and I think he will pick up his game. As of now Osgood should be our #1 till Hasek can prove to the team he can be #1! Yeah cause he absolutely sucks as a backup... Being #1 is all he has going for him (very 1 dimensional as far as benefit to the team)... without #1 status he is dead weight on this team. Maybe we should amputate the dead weight! Ozzie/Howard '08 and beyond! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 ^^ Dammit... thanks! i knew i was forgeting something... LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 (edited) :::DUPLICATE POST::: Effing PIRATES! I HATE PIRATES! Edited December 3, 2007 by OsGOD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 LOL. Only Zetterberg? The only reason that Ozzie does as well as he has is the team in front of him. There has not been ONE game stolen by either goaltender. I could not agree more Puckloo. Sorry that the Ozzy Trolls have to belittle everything you say. The fact of the matter is that the team in front of Ozzy makes Ozzy. Also with DOM. Again not a game stealer yet! OsGod, I like you but really! GIVE IT A REST! You have become nothing but a troll of late. Ozzy is not that great of a goaltender. He is having a GREAT year, sure. A great goaltender, I don't think so. Ozzy has not really picked up any slack at all. Dom has 5 losses. 3 of which is to Chicago. Which Ozzy could not beat either. Chi-town has our number. But if you take all the Windy games away it is 2 loses to 1. Just something to think about. Then going by your terms, that means that Ozzie only has 1 loss playing in 63% of the games played thus far compared to Dom's 2 losses in only 37% of the Wings' games. Just something to think about. Sh*t.......why did I get involved in this. :nonono: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted December 3, 2007 1. Hasek has played like crap. 2. Osgood has played like a god. 3. Hasek is still being awarded starts, so the Hasek loyalists can shut up. 4. Hasek is still being regarded, at least publically, as the team's #1 goalie. So the Hasek loyalists can shut up. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
