Simon gets 30 games

[Mudvayneowns91 0]

What's next for this guy? Happy Gilmore took his skate off and tried to cut a guy with them. Could that be next for Simon?

[wingsgirl001 983]

Geez, I've been out of the loop. I didn't even know this happened.

Does anyone have a video?

[gcom007 1,465]

Some of y'all need to get a grip...was he trying to hurt him and inflict some serious pain in the process? Oh yeah, no doubt. Was he trying to end his career and cause incredibly serious damage as y'all are suggesting? I don't think so. There's only so much even the sharpest of blades will do considering all the padding these guys wear. The impact from the stomp was what would cause damage more than any sort of slice from a blade. The blades are going to cause a lot more damage in a pileup when multiple people are down and someone's trying to get free. Then a blade could actually slice someone. A blade is not going to slice someone stomping downwards. It's just not really possible. It'd sting like hell and if enough force was applied you just might be able to fracture a bone in the foot, but even that's a bit of a longshot. So this whole "trying to end his career" talk is for the birds. Once again, get a grip. It was an incredibly dirty and stupid play and it's enough to say that. You don't need to ride the hype train to the heavens to prove that.

[wingslogo19 281]

Does anyone know if Simon is under contract with the Islanders after this year?

Some of y'all need to get a grip...was he trying to hurt him and inflict some serious pain in the process? Oh yeah, no doubt. Was he trying to end his career and cause incredibly serious damage as y'all are suggesting? I don't think so. There's only so much even the sharpest of blades will do considering all the padding these guys wear. The impact from the stomp was what would cause damage more than any sort of slice from a blade. The blades are going to cause a lot more damage in a pileup when multiple people are down and someone's trying to get free. Then a blade could actually slice someone. A blade is not going to slice someone stomping downwards. It's just not really possible. It'd sting like hell and if enough force was applied you just might be able to fracture a bone in the foot, but even that's a bit of a longshot. So this whole "trying to end his career" talk is for the birds. Once again, get a grip. It was an incredibly dirty and stupid play and it's enough to say that. You don't need to ride the hype train to the heavens to prove that.

I guess you forgot the accident that happen in the Canucks and Preds game awhile back, Bieksa is out for a long time when a skate blade cut him

[Turkey 0]

Some of y'all need to get a grip...was he trying to hurt him and inflict some serious pain in the process? Oh yeah, no doubt. Was he trying to end his career and cause incredibly serious damage as y'all are suggesting? I don't think so. There's only so much even the sharpest of blades will do considering all the padding these guys wear. The impact from the stomp was what would cause damage more than any sort of slice from a blade. The blades are going to cause a lot more damage in a pileup when multiple people are down and someone's trying to get free. Then a blade could actually slice someone. A blade is not going to slice someone stomping downwards. It's just not really possible. It'd sting like hell and if enough force was applied you just might be able to fracture a bone in the foot, but even that's a bit of a longshot. So this whole "trying to end his career" talk is for the birds. Once again, get a grip. It was an incredibly dirty and stupid play and it's enough to say that. You don't need to ride the hype train to the heavens to prove that.

I think there is a Vancouver D-man that would beg to differ.

[vangvace 12]

I guess you forgot the accident that happen in the Canucks and Preds game awhile back, Bieksa is out for a long time when a skate blade cut him

But that was an accident to the calf, not a stomp to the boot (Which would be more like a bone breaking slash than a cut to the tendon). For that matter is is nowhere near the level of the Cli$nt Malarchuk accident either.

Now with that said... I was expecting another 5-10 games. If he does seek help and does well there (as is the plan) then after 30 games ok. I'm assuming that the Isles will be kept abreast of how his treatment is going though and not bring him back until he's right in the head, or prozac'd.

Edited December 19, 2007 by vangvace

[YoungGuns1340 1]

I dont think Simon will play another game in the league. The Islanders already gave him time off. Either way, his career is over. He won't get another contract after his current one expires, and he'll be lucky if he isn't scratched and/or waived after his suspension expires.

[Yzerfan1999 81]

Some of y'all need to get a grip...was he trying to hurt him and inflict some serious pain in the process? Oh yeah, no doubt. Was he trying to end his career and cause incredibly serious damage as y'all are suggesting? I don't think so. There's only so much even the sharpest of blades will do considering all the padding these guys wear. The impact from the stomp was what would cause damage more than any sort of slice from a blade. The blades are going to cause a lot more damage in a pileup when multiple people are down and someone's trying to get free. Then a blade could actually slice someone. A blade is not going to slice someone stomping downwards. It's just not really possible. It'd sting like hell and if enough force was applied you just might be able to fracture a bone in the foot, but even that's a bit of a longshot. So this whole "trying to end his career" talk is for the birds. Once again, get a grip. It was an incredibly dirty and stupid play and it's enough to say that. You don't need to ride the hype train to the heavens to prove that.

Yeah, y'all!

[Opie 308]

What I don't get and maybe I fail to understand is, if he does this type of stuff on the ice and lets say there's things going on in his head. It would be scary if he just snapped one day on the street. Not saying it's going to happen, im just saying. There's something wrong with his head

I think that is the biggest issue right there wingslogo!

The league should also force players who do this type of crap multiple times to take anger management or under go some sort of evaluation to help the player.

While I think he needs a severe suspension, I think what should be more important is his overall mental health.

[ltgator333 3]

I would've banned him after his last episode. He needs to be out of the NHL, period.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

The league obviously doesn't take this as seriously as a stick-swinging incident, or else this suspension would have been much higher than his last one, just because the deterrence factor didn't seem to work last time.

[wingslogo19 281]

But that was an accident to the calf, not a stomp to the boot (Which would be more like a bone breaking slash than a cut to the tendon). For that matter is is nowhere near the level of the Cli$nt Malarchuk accident either.

Now with that said... I was expecting another 5-10 games. If he does seek help and does well there (as is the plan) then after 30 games ok. I'm assuming that the Isles will be kept abreast of how his treatment is going though and not bring him back until he's right in the head, or prozac'd.

I know it was an accident that's why I said put it in there. My point though was look at the damage it did. Simon is lucky that there wasn't any damage done on something he did on purpose

I think that is the biggest issue right there wingslogo!

The league should also force players who do this type of crap multiple times to take anger management or under go some sort of evaluation to help the player.

While I think he needs a severe suspension, I think what should be more important is his overall mental health.

I couldn't agree more with you Opie... See IMO I think if there's players like this they maybe do need to get looked at by a doctor.. The last thing anyone wants to see is somone die at the rink because of a player being an idiot

[puckloo39 5,686]

I didn't realize this is his seventh suspension. It ought to perhaps be his last. I can't imagine any sort of counselling or therapy is going to help him much. The damage inflicted was not the issue, the intent to injure is the issue - just luck that it wasn't much worse.

I can't imagine any Red Wing (now, anyway) even entertaining the thought of doing what Simon did.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

Should've been the season and playoffs. Not enough. This is a joke, he's a joke, and should be out of the league.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I didn't realize this is his seventh suspension. It ought to perhaps be his last. I can't imagine any sort of counselling or therapy is going to help him much. The damage inflicted was not the issue, the intent to injure is the issue - just luck that it wasn't much worse.

I can't imagine any Red Wing (now, anyway) even entertaining the thought of doing what Simon did.

I've actually been waiting for Drake to run someone like Tootoo from behind and get suspended, much like he always tried to do with our players when in St. Louis.

[puckloo39 5,686]

I've actually been waiting for Drake to run someone like Tootoo from behind and get suspended, much like he always tried to do with our players when in St. Louis.

you think? I never thought of Drake as being capable of a Simon-type incident. I've never been a big fan of his. I just remember him constantly diving and whining to the refs, angling for a penalty call when he played for STL. Drake and Kasparaitis -- that's my lasting image of both of them... sprawled out on the ice, looking at the ref for a call.

I hoped to see better from Drake in his current go-round with the Wings, and have, so far. Hope he keeps up the high standard of behavior here.

[imisssergei 0]

I think 30 games is too harsh. As I said before 20-25 would have felt right. I think the NHL should skip the anger management courses, that isn't going to help him on the ice. What he should have to go through is a psychiatric evaluation, and prescribed treatment. He obviously has some issues that need to be worked out.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

I think 30 games is too harsh. As I said before 20-25 would have felt right. I think the NHL should skip the anger management courses, that isn't going to help him on the ice. What he should have to go through is a psychiatric evaluation, and prescribed treatment. He obviously has some issues that need to be worked out.

Simon was suspended for 25 games last season for the stick swinging incident, and he couldn't even manage to finish his 26th game back without committing another dirty and incredibly stupid act.

30 games wasn't enough. He needs to sit for at least the rest of the season.

[imisssergei 0]

Simon was suspended for 25 games last season for the stick swinging incident, and he couldn't even manage to finish his 26th game back without committing another dirty and incredibly stupid act.

30 games wasn't enough. He needs to sit for at least the rest of the season.

In fairness to Simon, he was concussed during the Hollweg incident. Personally, I feel that regardless of the concussed state, the slash to the head had much more potential for injury than the stomp to the foot. Even so, take any Flyer that has been suspended this year, and I think the most recent Simon incident isn't as bad.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

In fairness to Simon, he was concussed during the Hollweg incident. Personally, I feel that regardless of the concussed state, the slash to the head had much more potential for injury than the stomp to the foot. Even so, take any Flyer that has been suspended this year, and I think the most recent Simon incident isn't as bad.

The result of Simon's stomp wasn't as bad, but the stupidity involved is worse than the Flyer incidents, with probably the exception of Downie's hit.

But there's so many Flyers that have been suspended, I honestly can't remember them all right now.

[handyandy_101 0]

TSN: The Sports Network??? More like The Simon Network! f***, give it a break. Does anyone else here feel my pain?? Why is this as big a deal as it is?? Somehow, this issue which exists within the game has transcended the game itself!

[wingslogo19 281]

TSN: The Sports Network??? More like The Simon Network! f***, give it a break. Does anyone else here feel my pain?? Why is this as big a deal as it is?? Somehow, this issue which exists within the game has transcended the game itself!

Maybe it's because this is his 7 suspension already... He's a head case and this isn't what hockey is about

[auxlepli 17]

Scotty Morrison wrote a good article about it. I agree that it had to be more games than Simon's last suspension.

[handyandy_101 0]

Maybe it's because this is his 7 suspension already... He's a head case and this isn't what hockey is about

I agree entirely. So why not spend more time talking about what hockey IS about. Believe it or not, players like Datsyuk and Zetterberg still exist in relative obscurity, and these are guys who represent everything that is good about the game. Meanwhile, some head case pulls a dick move and he becomes a f***in celebrity. I realize that this is just the world that we live in, but I'm just starting to get sick of it. (I'm not just talking about Simon, but the whole string of suspensions that have been taken place this years: Downey, Boulerice, etc. etc. etc.)

[vangvace 12]

TSN: The Sports Network??? More like The Simon Network! f***, give it a break. Does anyone else here feel my pain?? Why is this as big a deal as it is?? Somehow, this issue which exists within the game has transcended the game itself!

Because it's more exciting than 95% of what the NHL has become sadly.