CrossCheck24 2 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Rob Blake is 39. I would leave him be, we have enough age on our team. We need someone younger, I would go with Hossa because if we put him on a line, then Z and Dats on different, lines what would the opposing team do? Thats 3 lines with an All-Star on them plus i think we have the supporting cast to make each line a threat. ^just a thought, im not a hockey expert by any stretch of the imagination Also, Pronger being better than Nick is just a joke no where near as smart of a player Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Rob Blake is 39. I would leave him be, we have enough age on our team. We need someone younger, I would go with Hossa because if we put him on a line, then Z and Dats on different, lines what would the opposing team do? Thats 3 lines with an All-Star on them plus i think we have the supporting cast to make each line a threat. ^just a thought, im not a hockey expert by any stretch of the imagination Also, Pronger being better than Nick is just a joke no where near as smart of a player To get Hossa it will cost us way to much to get a rental player.. I'd rather go with a Rob Blake as he has the playoff experience and i think he would strive with us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 To get Hossa it will cost us way to much to get a rental player.. I'd rather go with a Rob Blake as he has the playoff experience and i think he would strive with us We wouldn't get Hossa as a rental. It would be a sign and trade. We could probably get both, Hossa long term and Blake as a rental. What is Blake's contract situation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) You guys need to get real on these Hossa rumors. He isn't going to re-sign here if we got him, unless they threw an Ovechkin-esque money contract at him. Why do you think Ottawa traded him in the first place? The Senators wanted to give him a long term contract to stay on a Cup contender, but he instead told them he would rather test the free agent market and get as much money as he possibly could. And with the recent contracts that were handed out this year (Daniel Briere, I'm looking at you) Hossa is going to have a field day in the bidding wars. Teams will pay high over the actual value of a player for some reason. I question Hossa's determination to win after hearing about that. The money Ottawa was offering him was not exactly low-balling it. He could have gotten a lot of money, and stayed on a team he had a great chance to win a Cup with, and instead declined. Ottawa didn't want to lose him for nothing, so instead signed him to a peliminary deal, and afterwards traded him to Atlanta for Heatley. Besides that, the Wings don't have the talent to give up for him. The talent pool in GR is extremely thin. Our top 3 goal scorers down there are Carl Corazzini, Mark Hartigan, and Mark Cullen. Are you noticing the trend here? All three of them are over 30 journymen who can't crack an NHL roster. Nobody is going to want those guys, since they'll probably be free agents next year anyways. ...and even if the Wings did somehow manage to strum up the talent needed for Hossa, why would you want to give up all that for a playoff rental? As I said before: Hossa isn't going to re-sign here, unless they give him the Grand Cayman Bank in the process. He's made his plans to test the free agent market quite publicly known, and unless he suddenly changes his mind, he's probably going to stick to them. Edited January 18, 2008 by Kp-Wings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A.T.Hun 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Pronger > Lids. This is true. Pronger is bigger than Lidstrom. 6'6" 213 vs. 6'1" 189. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 We wouldn't get Hossa as a rental. It would be a sign and trade. We could probably get both, Hossa long term and Blake as a rental. What is Blake's contract situation? if so, they say good bye to signing Zetts longterm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Pronger > Lids. I wasnt joking. Are you a part of Pronger's PR team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 if so, they say good bye to signing Zetts longterm Exactly and like people have said it will cost a lot more to get Hossa than Blake. Hossa is much younger and the fact that Atl is still in the playoff hunt so it would take a lot to get him away. But after last year you get Blake. Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Blake Lebda - Chelios Lilja Meech Quincey After the injuries last year you want to add some depth there. I would love to see him and maybe see if you can add any depth up front. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 if so, they say good bye to signing Zetts longterm Not necessarily. Sign them both for 7.5 mil. There's 15, plus Dats 6 (20), Nick's 7.5 (27.5), Raf's 6 (33.5). There's still 20 mil out there. We would have to give up people to get him, and those guys have contracts, too. We wouldn't be able to keep the second tier guys like Huds, Fil, Mule, etc. And Grand Rapids can't plug those holes. That said, I find it unlikely. Hossa wants more, and even if he did take 7.5, I doubt Holland would want to have so little cap flexibility. But, damn, let a man dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY9802 6 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Not necessarily. Sign them both for 7.5 mil. There's 15, plus Dats 6 (20), Nick's 7.5 (27.5), Raf's 6 (33.5). There's still 20 mil out there. We would have to give up people to get him, and those guys have contracts, too. We wouldn't be able to keep the second tier guys like Huds, Fil, Mule, etc. And Grand Rapids can't plug those holes. That said, I find it unlikely. Hossa wants more, and even if he did take 7.5, I doubt Holland would want to have so little cap flexibility. But, damn, let a man dream. You just gave yourself my argument. One article I read broke it down with estimated salary increases and with signing both Z and with a cap increase they would have 55mil tied up in 18 players. So if the estimated cap was 56mil in a couple years that would be 1mil for 5 players and any possible injuries. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) Blake to the Wings = OK I would also like to see someone like Pyatt, Rolston, Malone or Neil... on of these 4 would be great addition to our team. I would trade Lebda and Sammy... what do you think? Edited January 18, 2008 by Dominator2005 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Blake> Hossa if it comes down to one. Wrong, false, incorrect, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HockeyCrazy3033 168 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) I'd welcome in Blake. I think he'd fit in perfectly. Just hope it wouldn't cost too much seeing as how he'd be a rental player. Still though, I would rather go after a Winger. Edited January 18, 2008 by HockeyCrazy3033 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Blake> Hossa if it comes down to one. Defense wins championships and ours has been looking rather porous lately. It's really starting to seem like a mistake that we didn't drop the $$$ on Markov. Now we're going to end up giving up prospects and taking a bigger cap hit on Blake. Except when everyone complains that the Wings don't score enough in the playoffs, need secondary scoring, etc, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) So, should we start the "Blake Sucks" or "Blake is a Disappointment" threads yet? (Kinda like the Rafalski thread that's going on right now) No matter what D-man is added, if any, fans will be dissapointed by him because he's not as good Saint Nick. ...well we know not many (if any) are as good as Nick, but who is complaining about Rafalski? My God, Jesus! He's #2 in scoring behind Nick!!!! We knew what we were getting when they signed him, did people think that he was gonna come in and become a hitter? If Nick was retired, then we'd STILL have the #1 scorer in the league, Brian Rafalski! Jesus, does he have to be tied with Nick to get some respect!?!?! I don't recall Schneider ever being #2 behind Nick while he was here! ...anyhow, Blake would be a nice addition, but so would many other players (Fedorov, Foote, Hossa, Sundin, Forsberg.) Since we can't obviously get them all, lets hope that Holland chooses the right ingrediant (if he does at all.) ...Would Blake and Fedorov be the mix to put us into the Stanley Cup? They'd bring the playoff experience, Cup winning experience to boot! I think it would cost less to aquire Fedorov and Foote though... Edited January 18, 2008 by LeftWinger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Hossa and Sundin are probably least possible..they would cost too much to bring in. Foote and Blake could be available for relatively nothing (Sammy? ). Foppa coming to Detroit seems unlikely to me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Dynasty 267 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) Hossa and Sundin are probably least possible..they would cost too much to bring in. Foote and Blake could be available for relatively nothing (Sammy? ). Foppa coming to Detroit seems unlikely to me.. I would say Detroit has the best chance of landing Forsberg. Swede friendly and the #1 Cup contender. But at the same time, will they pay him what he thinks he deserves. It would definitely be a Bertuzzi-like situation though. High risk and a low probability of high reward. But... he could be stronger than ever after a break... EDIT: addition Edited January 18, 2008 by Wings_Dynasty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
J-Swift 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 ...Would Blake and Fedorov be the mix to put us into the Stanley Cup? They'd bring the playoff experience, Cup winning experience to boot! I think it would cost less to aquire Fedorov and Foote though... Columbus is currently second in the division and fighting for a playoff spot, while LA is dead last in the league. I think you're much more likely to see Detroit pick up someone from the Kings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingslogo19 281 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Ok let me say it now, Hossa isn't coming to to the wings.. And if people do think he is, please tell me what you think the wings would have to give up for a rental player again.. Im willing to listen Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 I'd welcome in Blake. I think he'd fit in perfectly. Just hope it wouldn't cost too much seeing as how he'd be a rental player. Still though, I would rather go after a Winger. Not just one Winger- but FOUR!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Not just one Winger- but FOUR!!! Baptized by fire.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bannedforlife 403 Report post Posted January 18, 2008 Ok let me say it now, Hossa isn't coming to to the wings.. And if people do think he is, please tell me what you think the wings would have to give up for a rental player again.. Im willing to listen I don't think that he is coming to Detroit, but I do think that it is within the realm of possibility. And I hope that he is. I think to acquire him as a rental would take Hudler, Sammy, mid to high level prospect (Quincey, Meech, Smith or Kindl) and a pick or two. I think to acquire him already signed to a long term contract would take all that plus Kronwall. So. Do I think that we have the assets to match offers that other teams could put together? Yes, I do. Do I think that Holland would make that trade? Not likely... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MIN8TV 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2008 Lets clone Brett Favre and have him QB out powerplay, in all seriousness, i want to hear what blake says in response to chelis comments Nah, Tom Brady would be a better choice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted January 19, 2008 Not just one Winger- but FOUR!!! I'm way to tired...laughed for 5 minutes when I saw that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mickeyisms Rule! 0 Report post Posted January 19, 2008 I'm way to tired...laughed for 5 minutes when I saw that... Is it the tight pants, the big hair, or the strategically displayed bumps in the front of their trousers that make you laugh the most? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
