Official: Selanne signs with Ducks

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Well, we definitely need someone now. Not because the Ducks are better than us (they're not) but because we need to do something to solidify our ranks. Ballerina #2 makes them a little deeper at forward. We should return the favor on forward and defense.

Blake/Foote and Forsberg/Fedorov/Sudin/some power forward not afraid to drop the gloves.

[FUUFNF 1]

Of course he was, and that comes with being a Kings fan. But at least it gave him an excuse rather than parading around as Lord of Wing Fans and vanquisher of all evil homers. It's lame. Particularly on a website named as LetsGoWings.

classic.

[FUUFNF 1]

You have to be a real old-timer to remember Unagi.

yup... back in the day when the kings fans were douchebags and duck fans were, well duck fans... man how the times have changed.

[GMRwings1983 8,804]

I pretty much lost all my respect for Selanne after this B.S. I hope this bites the Ducks in the ass.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

if Peter Forsberg signed with the wings 2 morrow every wings fan would look past the fact that he got a break and would welcome him with open arms. Thats what i think is funny about people saying how bad of a thing this is that teemu re signed after contemplating retirement. Scott is a way different situation.

QFT. Funny how none of my fellow fans here except for HaroldSnepsts seems to get this.

Sure, people have argued against bringing in Forsberg due to his injuries or level of play. But not one person has bitched and moaned about it the way they're doing about Selanne.

Furthermore, had Selanne signed with Detroit, which he was free to do, nobody would say a peep about it.

My advice, don't block them out but keep a list of all those who appear to be clueless, moronic, homers around here. Keep it handy so the next time somebody says something completely biased you can check your list, spot their name and chalk it up to blind homerism and move on.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

hey DUCKGUY: i really appreciate your insight and perspective on this forum. you (as well as legionnaire [sp?]) have done nothing but calmly discuss hockey and its surrounding subjects in a fair and respectful manner. especially when most of the wings fans detest the ducks (mainly due to mr. cheapshot...i mean...Pronger). for this, i thank you!

now. onto my question. obviously you are excited to be getting teemu back. i'm sure you threw a party when scotty laced em up again. BUT. isn't there some little part of you that is pissed off that they let the team play .500 hockey for half a year, for no reason other than they wanted rest? i don't buy the desire argument. 99% of me doesn't buy the "i didn't decide whether or not i was going to retire until 42 games deep" argument. so whats left? rest. they aren't ancient but are no spring chickens. hockey is a demanding game and can be very hard on the body. so this extra time off will help their stamina in the long run, no doubt.

if lidstrom and zetterberg sat out 42 games and then came back and lit the NHL on fire, MOST of the fans of other teams would be pissed. and although i would be glad to have them back, i'd be a little pissed they sat back and watched the team struggle for 3 months.

just wondering how you feel about the move, aside from the fact that having them back pleases you a great deal. THANKS!

EDIT:

this would be NOTHING like the teemu thing. he played for the ducks last year. now he's re-signing with the ducks. if teemu wanted to come back and play for vancuver or montreal or dallas, GO FOR IT. but he had no intention of playing for any team for the rest of his career than the ducks. if forsberg comes back to the highest bidder or whatever, thats COMPLETELY different. not to mention the fact that he has a glass ankle and didn't skate for months after surgery.

nothing you said here has absolutely any factual basis whatsoever. You just "don't buy" anything that could possibly not jive with what you think.

And sorry, the fact that he re signed with the Ducks not being okay versus signing with another team being okay, talk about having your cake and eating it to.

Aw s***, doesn't matter. Homers around here just love to hate and love to spew their ramblings about conspiracies, illegal activities and dowright unfair shenanigans because it doesn't benefit the wings. I hate homers.

Edited January 29, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

Absolute bulls***. Sorry, but there's no way to defend against it. It's a clear subversion of the cap and a blatant attempt to gain an enormous edge in the playoffs. You're fooling yourself if you truly thought after the start of the season that neither of these players intended to come back.

So after this cup are the Ducks going to let Pronger, Neidermayer and Selanne sit out until may this time?

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

As well Forsberg was injured and trying to see if he could come back to play. I never heard of anything about scott or Teemu saying that they were injured

Well, what if they were? And who says Forsberg is injured right now? Does anyone know the last time he was injured or cleared to play? Anybody know if he's skating?

Would your opinion be different if he had been cleared to play 3 months ago?

Wings fans will find anything to justify the Wings pulling something like this but its not okay for anybody else.

[omnipotent_hudler 0]

Absolute bulls***. Sorry, but there's no way to defend against it. It's a clear subversion of the cap and a blatant attempt to gain an enormous edge in the playoffs. You're fooling yourself if you truly thought after the start of the season that neither of these players intended to come back.

So after this cup are the Ducks going to let Pronger, Neidermayer and Selanne sit out until may this time?

QFT. Funny how none of my fellow fans here except for HaroldSnepsts seems to get this.

Sure, people have argued against bringing in Forsberg due to his injuries or level of play. But not one person has bitched and moaned about it the way they're doing about Selanne.

Furthermore, had Selanne signed with Detroit, which he was free to do, nobody would say a peep about it.

Selanne was completely healthy, Forsberg has not been able to skate for the majority of the year. Don't try to compare them, because they are completely different situations.

And I call you out on your assumption that I'd welcome Selanne with open arms. No player should be allowed to sit out this much of the season for any other reason other than injury, and FA's who sign late in the year should have to meet a quota of games to qualify for the playoffs. Where would that number be? right at 50.01%(the majority of the season).

Edited January 29, 2008 by omnipotent_hudler

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Ah, I wasn't aware that Brunstrom spent seven months "contemplating retirement".

Oh wait, he didn't.

It's this whole bulls*** excuse of being "semi-retired" that irks me when it comes to Selanne. Would I give a s*** if Forsberg came back to the Flyers? Nope, his is an injury concern. Did I get pissed off when Cujo went to the Flames? Nope, since he wasn't pulling this "semi-retired" bulls***.

It's not even apples and oranges. It's apples and lawnmowers.

It's what you want it to be.

Where does it say it's okay to be injured and not come back to play until your ready.

But its not okay to be mentally "injured" if you will, meaning being unable to decide about your future, your family's wants and desires and being truly committed to giving up the thing you've loved and done your entire life?

Why is this so hard to fathom that it could be possible?

My grandfather retired and then went back to work 2 years later because he missed it. He didn't work the hours he used to but he still went back after 2 years because he was bored at home and missed what he did his entire life.

You're right, this isn't apples and oranges. It's simply sour grapes.

Edited January 29, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

For f***'s sake... don't you ever get tired of whining?

As an aside you aren't nearly as cool as Unagi.

WTF are you talking about?

There's 7 pages of Wings homers whiny like little girls and you want to single me out?

Check yourself fool

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Absolute bulls***. Sorry, but there's no way to defend against it. It's a clear subversion of the cap and a blatant attempt to gain an enormous edge in the playoffs. You're fooling yourself if you truly thought after the start of the season that neither of these players intended to come back.

So after this cup are the Ducks going to let Pronger, Neidermayer and Selanne sit out until may this time?

Selanne was completely healthy, Forsberg has not been able to skate for the majority of the year. Don't try to compare them, because they are completely different situations.

And I call you out on your assumption that I'd welcome Selanne with open arms. No player should be allowed to sit out this much of the season for any other reason other than injury, and FA's who sign late in the year should have to meet a quota of games to qualify for the playoffs. Where would that number be? right at 50.01%(the majority of the season).

Well, at least you're being reasonable about it saying you'd feel the same way if he signed with the Wings. Unfortunately that would still puts you in the majority of wings fans around here. Welcome to the club.

[norrisnick 1]

WTF are you talking about?

There's 7 pages of Wings homers whiny like little girls and you want to single me out?

Check yourself fool

Check your posts.

You do nothing but cry about Red Wing bias and homerism. And you do it on a website called LetsGoWings.

Give it a rest. It's a tired schtick that better posters than you wore out long ago.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Of course he was, and that comes with being a Kings fan. But at least it gave him an excuse rather than parading around as Lord of Wing Fans and vanquisher of all evil homers. It's lame. Particularly on a website named as LetsGoWings.

Not as lame as people who let their emotions overrule rational, objective thought.

But you keep on keeping on. The world needs people like you who fall into that 70-90 IQ range.

You act like there's some rule that states because this is LGW or because we're fans of such and such team we should check any objectivity at the door.

It's sad that people like yourself think a lack of objectivity and complete homer bulls*** should be worn like a badge of honor or something of pride.

There's plenty of folks around here that don't check their objectivity at the sign in screen. These are the ones worth talking hockey with. Apparently, you and your buddy don't fit that group.

So why don't you do yourself a favor, make things easier on your own brain and add me to your ignore list.

Then you can keep on living in homerland where there won't be any conflicting opinions and you can forget you ever knew the definition of objectivity in the first place.

I mean, after all this is LGW. I know I read somewhere in the Rules section that this was a place by homers for homers and any non-homers need not apply. So ignore me and it'll be like I never existed.

edited for damned naughty language.

Edited January 29, 2008 by GordieSid&Ted

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Check your posts.

You do nothing but cry about Red Wing bias and homerism. And you do it on a website called LetsGoWings.

Give it a rest. It's a tired schtick that better posters than you wore out long ago.

I do plenty more than that. There's just been an abundance of material for me to work with here lately.

So again, save yourself the headaches I must give you when I try to inject a different perspective into your little homerland and add me to your ignore.

Do it. You won't regret it.

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

Well, we definitely need someone now. Not because the Ducks are better than us (they're not) but because we need to do something to solidify our ranks. Ballerina #2 makes them a little deeper at forward. We should return the favor on forward and defense.

Blake/Foote and Forsberg/Fedorov/Sudin/some power forward not afraid to drop the gloves.

I agree. Not just for any potential matchup with the Ducks, but in general we should make some type of move. I don't know if it has to be a Sundin-sized move but I wouldn't complain I don't think. Unless Kenny got rid of Flip or Kindl or Howard that is.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Have you heard any rumors on what that price might be? Im imagining Ryan, a 1st, and a 3rd maybe?

The Leafs covet Edmonton's 1st rounder that Anaheim owns. Burke has said that he's willing to move that pick at the deadline (you'd have to think that Sundin & Hossa are the only two guys worth that pick, and he really doesn't need Hossa now), so it's just matter of filling things out beyond that, which will depend on where Edmonton will approximately end up.

The Leafs would love two picks in the top-10, especially since it looks like their own will be a lottery pick. I think the ultimate for Cliff Fletcher would be packaging up those two top picks and getting Stamkos. I think Los Angeles would rather have Doughty or Pietrangelo at this point, anyways.

If Edmonton continues to move up in the standings, then you'll probably see the Leafs look to get Bobby Ryan.

Edited January 29, 2008 by MacK_Attack

[Guest GordieSid&Ted]

The Leafs covet Edmonton's 1st rounder that Anaheim owns. Burke has said that he's willing to move that pick at the deadline (you'd have to think that Sundin & Hossa are the only two guys worth that pick, and he really doesn't need Hossa now), so it's just matter of filling things out beyond that, which will depend on where Edmonton will approximately end up.

The Leafs would love two picks in the top-10, especially since it looks like their own will be a lottery pick.

If Edmonton continues to move up in the standings, then you'll probably see the Leafs look to get Bobby Ryan.

Man, I guess i'm just way behind the curve on the whole rental player thing. Maybe Ryan, a 1st and a 3rd? Hell, I wouldn't trade Ryan and his future for a couple months of Sundin. Ryan could be the next great power forward and Sundin could be gone quicker than you can say Bertuzzi has signed with the Anaheim Ducks.

Ughhh...If that's a package the Ducks would do, let them. I'd hate to see the Wings give up a first and a legit prospect like Kindl/Ryan for a rental.

[WingsallTheway 383]

i know this is random, but i really hate this team that much more now, and the greedy bastards and goons that make it

[Uncle Danny 155]

I'm actually enjoying the fact that I am consistently given a reason to hate the Ducks in recent years. It lets me finally let go of my hatred for the Avs so I can actually root for one of the classiest players in the game, Joe Sakic. And no, I'm not being sarcastic or cute. With Turtle, Keane, Roy, Ricci, Foote and others all gone, I no longer feel guilty for being a Joe Sakic fan.

There, I said it. Damn, that felt good.

Oh, and screw the Ducks....(even though I feel guilty for being a Selanne fan )

[Drake_Marcus 890]

Horray for cheating!

This is the hockey equivalent of moving your company's mailbox to Bermuda and claiming your HQ's there to avoid tax.

[MacK_Attack 108]

Man, I guess i'm just way behind the curve on the whole rental player thing. Maybe Ryan, a 1st and a 3rd? Hell, I wouldn't trade Ryan and his future for a couple months of Sundin. Ryan could be the next great power forward and Sundin could be gone quicker than you can say Bertuzzi has signed with the Anaheim Ducks.

Ughhh...If that's a package the Ducks would do, let them. I'd hate to see the Wings give up a first and a legit prospect like Kindl/Ryan for a rental.

I'd imagine it's either Ryan OR the EDM 1st rounder, and then the filler from there.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Man, I guess i'm just way behind the curve on the whole rental player thing. Maybe Ryan, a 1st and a 3rd? Hell, I wouldn't trade Ryan and his future for a couple months of Sundin. Ryan could be the next great power forward and Sundin could be gone quicker than you can say Bertuzzi has signed with the Anaheim Ducks.

Ughhh...If that's a package the Ducks would do, let them. I'd hate to see the Wings give up a first and a legit prospect like Kindl/Ryan for a rental.

Now that i think about it more I probably went a bit overboard with that package GST, but realistically it would be what Mack's saying. If Ryan were to go maybe drop that 1st out of there and make it Ryan and a 2nd, along with a latter round filler. The Ducks would be extremely lucky to walk away with Sundin and still have Ryan imo. If they could use that Edmonton pick, assuming its good enough value, that would be ideal for them....but i have the feeling they'd deal Ryan if necessary. Yeah it seems like alot, but thats just how it is these days. With all the moves that have gone on with Burke this year, I get the impression winning this second Cup is of extreme importance to him to avoid any possible criticism he might encounter if they lose. Would be his chance to stick it to everybody, and you know Burke wont pass that up.

[MacK_Attack 108]

There's a real shortage of high-end rental forwards this year (might end up being just Sundin), which will do nothing but drive Sundin's value higher. Given his mandate, Cliff Fletcher is just going to take the best offer. As long as it's a team in the upper-half of the playoff seedings, I think Sundin will go.

As much as going to a team with a real chance is important to Mats, I think he'll also consider the return going back to the Leafs, especially since he'll likely re-sign there this summer.

Edited January 29, 2008 by MacK_Attack

[Sevumar 0]

I can understand the dislike for the Ducks. I live in their backyard and they're my least favorite team in the NHL, to put it mildly. That doesn't mean Teemu Selanne is a bad guy. He's a hell of a forward who plays a clean game, and that's something you can say about precious few Ducks.

I'm not convinced that adding him back onto the roster at this point in the season is the kind of secret weapon Ducks fans think it will be. Will they get better? Maybe, but if they keep playing the way they did against Detroit last week, they won't have much of a playoff run.