Guest LivingtheDream Report post Posted January 29, 2008 You can't be serious? And the answer is NO. Please close this thread. Ditto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 :caution: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Dany Heatley is a franchise player. Marian Hossa is a franchise player. Joe Thornton is another. Teemu Selanne was also traded. Alex Tanguay had multiple near-80-point seasons when he was traded. Kristian Huselius is a good player, had made it and got traded.. Brad Boyes, a 30-goal scorer this year (some 48 games out), was traded last season. Mats Sundin, Eric Lindros, Wayne Gretzky -- all traded. And goaltenders, including the great Patrick Roy, the revered Terry Sawchuk, the Vezina-defending Dominik Hasek -- look, it's possible for good players to be on the trading block. Yzerman was considered to be on the trading block to Ottawa. Heatley needed a change of scenery. Ottawa couldn't afford Hossa. Boston's team was struggling when they traded Big Joe. Teemu Selanne's trade was the product of a cash-strapped Jets franchise. I guess the Avs thought Leipold would be a good fit in their system. Huselius was having a below-expectation season. Brad Boyes got dealt at the deadline. Etc., etc. What makes ridicule the end result of this kind of inquiry, I think, is the fact that the Red Wings haven't in recent years been dealing their stars. It's in the culture of this Detroit franchise -- keep the stars happy, be loyal to them, fill out the rest of the roster with gritty third-liners and effective penalty killers. Try to trade for players that complete the team -- Murphs, Fetisov, Shanny, Cheli. Is 'should we trade Z?' one of those tough questions Ken is asking himself? Likely not, I would think not -- I would think that would shake up what makes the team successful. It strays very far away from the Wings' winning formula. It even strays from why a lot of those other players -- Selanne, Gretzky, Hossa for financial solvency, for instance, that other teams have found it necessary to trade one of their greatest assets. The Wings aren't that team. We, as fans, in this decade and last, we're fortunate and even lucky. Now -- can we afford some other team's star (while keeping the core we have intact)? That's a much more likely scenario. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HenrikRules40 14 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Trade Z? I think I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Yes,since Downey has shown he is worthy of first line ice time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PROBIE4PREZ 58 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 this thread sucks more than anything that has sucked before... Z is the future .. Z is the new face(well i guess 1/2?) of the franchise fool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEVILSWATERBOY 10 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 uh uh well duh I dont know what you are smokin but give me some Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 (edited) Negotiations aren't allowed to *start* unitl the 1st day of next years regular season. At 12:01 AM (that day) Kenny will have a contract waiting for him to sign. Edited for correction Edited January 29, 2008 by Never Forget Mac #25 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Man you people have no patience or tolerance in one thread and then are begging for GS&T to have mercy on you and stop calling you Homers, yet when someone posts what is a legit concern, you all freak out and say they are using drugs, yet conspiracy theorist are all over this board about Burke's back alley tactics. This is a legit concern because: 1. Hank has had a bad back recently. 2. Salary cap always makes these things tricky. Having said that I see no reason for Holland to let him go nor do I see it happening. Hank and Dats are the future and the faces of this team, Z has been groomed to take over after Lids. While I don't see a trade or him not signing back up, the possibility is out there. I am not saying Detroit's front office is anything like Boston's but they did let Joe Thornton go, actually they pushed him out the door only to watch him sign for a steal in SJ!! So while this situation is highly unlikely, it could happen, and would suck a big ass rotten egg!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 I hope he stays healthy the rest of the year to dispel all this injury prone talk, but if this continues, he might turn into Forsberg as far as health is concerned. If that ever happens, I'd consider the possibility of trading him if I was Holland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 i say ducks could prolly trade for him. 3rd round + Joe Dipenta. HAHA. anyways detroit will never trade Z in a million years. Git-R-done, Burkie! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mooose kiiisses 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 I hope he stays healthy the rest of the year to dispel all this injury prone talk, but if this continues, he might turn into Forsberg as far as health is concerned. If that ever happens, I'd consider the possibility of trading him if I was Holland. Yzerman had injury problems would you have traded or not resigned him? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Yzerman had injury problems would you have traded or not resigned him? Z ain't no stevie.... yet.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Yzerman had injury problems would you have traded or not resigned him? Personally no I wouldn't but my opinion is all hindsight, but the wings almost traded Stevie to Ottawa so if the legend was worthy of trade speculation why not Z? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Personally no I wouldn't but my opinion is all hindsight, but the wings almost traded Stevie to Ottawa so if the legend was worthy of trade speculation why not Z? and wasn't it for scrubs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zion 93 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Heatley killed his best friend, so yes, he needed a change in scenery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Heatley killed his best friend, so yes, he needed a change in scenery. Classy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 While the majority keep posting responses like "WTF" and "Put down the pipe" the only response that means anything is the bolded one. Negotiations aren't allowed to *start* before July 1st. At 12:01 AM (that day) Kenny will have a contract waiting for him to sign. ...no, there will be NO contract waiting for him on July 1st 12:01AM... ...I don't why everyone thinks Hank will be a UFA this summer. He won't be a UFA until 2009! I see everyone on here, including the most knowledgable of users saying stuff like "Holland will have to save money for Hank this summer" and words to the like. The opening poster said he hadn't heard anything on contract talks, ARice (very knowledgable) answered that Holland cannot begin talks until July 1st. Then NFM25 posted the above quote. 2009 guys! Oh and BTW the rule is you cannot start negotiating until the FINAL YEAR of the contract, so in essence on day one of the 2008-09 season Holland and Zetts can open up talks and get a deal done before he becomes a UFA. Remember when Fedorov turned down Hollands contract in December of 2002 after his divorce and hiring of a new agent? He became a UFA July 1st 2003. I know this is not a huge deal, but for some reason when it comes to Hank, everyone has a brain fart over and over again about his contract... ...he is signed until 2009, it's right on this website for all to read! http://www.letsgowings.com/insider/capchart.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OsGOD 3 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Classy. That is pretty much the reason why... can't really sugar coat it... You think had his friend not have died in the car (there i did my best to sugar coat it), he would have been moved? i don't think so personally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Zetterberg for Calder and Blake....heard it here first! (and last). I love Z but I'd do Zetterberg and Lilja for Cammaleri, Frolov and Johnson!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 There is no way Zis traded. I would not trade Z for any player in the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest GordieSid&Ted Report post Posted January 29, 2008 There is no way Zis traded. I would not trade Z for any player in the league. Not even for Crosby or Ovechkin? Wow. I love Z too but Ovechkin? That dude is the sickest of the sick. And he's what, like 21 years old or something. Ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 Not even for Ovy, but that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 i cant imagine the Wings without Zetterberg just because currently he has a little back flare up doesn't mean he deserves without a doubt, top dollar amount and length on his up coming contract. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermaniac192005 0 Report post Posted January 29, 2008 As long as the wings don't lose their entire fanbase and stay under the cap - Z will be a part of this team. He's being groomed for the captaincy and well, he's just damn good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites