zata40 3 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 http://www.delcotimes.com/WebApp/appmanage...t_Story_1594047 . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckbags 863 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Rules are rules I guess but that is a little bit ridiculous!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 the nhl is a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I thought this thread would be about a vicious two-hand slash that the Flyers were fined for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kp-Wings 3 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I think we can also blame the Washington Capitals organization as well, because they also played a part. The NHL is a joke. Their just as bad as the US Congress. I can't believe they don't have anything better to do than fine teams for having a ceremony during an intermission. Why is that such a big deal? Because nobody's ever done it before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I don't know, sure its great to honor your own. Think if you were the other team though. You want to play the game! They should be doing that stuff before the game even gets close to starting. 14 minutes late. I know there is nothing going on for like 15 minutes before the game starts. Problem solved. Tell your fans if you want to see us honor your hockey gods, show up before the puck drops! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Honestly if I were a player I'd be annoyed at having to wait an extra 14 minutes in between periods. It's enough time to cool down and sort of get out of game mode. Still, I think the NHL and the Flyers could've handled this better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zata40 3 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 the flyers should have held it before the game, but the 25k fine is ridiculuos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grittzkey 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 weak.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YoungGuns1340 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I wouldnt be surprised if the fact that its the Flyers had something to do with it. Like it or not, Bettman is trying to do his best to make hockey attractive to the casual fan, a lof of whom are turned off by the "vicious nature" of hockey. The Flyers have done a tremendous job this season making hockey look like wrestling on ice this season, so I wouldnt be surprised if this was just one way Bettman is getting back at the Flyers.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nero 20 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 (edited) Nevermind. Edited February 16, 2008 by Nero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MonkeyGoalie 14 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Just to play devil advocate here, but then why weren't the Red Wings fined when they retired Yzerman's number? That postponed the start of the game by about 30 mins. IT's close to being the same thing since they are both ran past the expected starting time of the game/period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pavyaz19 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I wouldnt be surprised if the fact that its the Flyers had something to do with it. Like it or not, Bettman is trying to do his best to make hockey attractive to the casual fan, a lof of whom are turned off by the "vicious nature" of hockey. The Flyers have done a tremendous job this season making hockey look like wrestling on ice this season, so I wouldnt be surprised if this was just one way Bettman is getting back at the Flyers.. Bettman wants you to think that people are turned off by the vicious nature of hockey. Thats what HE says. So now you're agreeing with him. Sure, some moms out there aren't going to like it as well as dad's that were former captians of their chess teams. But take a look at UFC, what an audience they have. I, for one, hate UFC and think it's a waste of time, I have no interest in it... but obviously there is a huge audience for it. Listen to Cherry, listen to Mickey... they remind us all during every rare hockey fight that the entire crowd is out of their seats. The last Kings game I went to, the cheers were lauder for a Parros / Ivanans fight than they were for when the final buzzer sounded and the Kings had beaten the Ducks. Quit listening to Bettman. He's corrupting even the real hockey fans, one at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Just to play devil advocate here, but then why weren't the Red Wings fined when they retired Yzerman's number? That postponed the start of the game by about 30 mins. IT's close to being the same thing since they are both ran past the expected starting time of the game/period. I'm sure that was mildly annoying to the opposing team, but the big difference is that this was between periods. The players had warmed up, played 20 minutes of hockey, then had to wait around an extra 14 minutes to get back on the ice to resume the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I thought this thread would be about a vicious two-hand slash that the Flyers were fined for. TBH, I seriously thought it would be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awingsincebirth 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I'm a little bit surprised that most people in this thread seem to think of this as a joke. I agree that its not all that big of a deal, but 14 extra minutes in an intermission can be a big deal to a player, who has been conditioned to the same length of intermission for his entire NHL career. Not to mention the television broadcasts are all designed around a model with an approximate intermission length, and you don't want to mess with any combination of Gary Bettman and television. With all that said, I can see why the Flyers would want to have everyone there to honor Hexie, but I'm sure they could have worked it out better with the league so that it didn't end up like this. Also, for a NHL team, a $25,000 fine seems a bit more like a slap on the wrist than a "coming down hard". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Not to mention the television broadcasts are all designed around a model with an approximate intermission length This is the big reason for the fine, I'm sure. Screwing with broadcasts is a no-no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StaticWithABeat 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 The Flyers were irresponsible and they deserved to be punished...maybe not 25k worth of punishment, but still - retire your damn players before the game like everyone else. It's not fair to the guys who have to sit around in a locker room and get cold for half an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lou_Siffer 1 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Fine seems justified to me. If you dont get the opposing team's permission to do something like this, then you cant do it. Big difference between the start of a game being delayed and the 2nd period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
poxer 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I thought this thread would be about a vicious two-hand slash that the Flyers were fined for. I thought the same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I for one agree w/ the NHL on this one... in fact, 25k seems a bit weak for any fine on a team level. I have no problem with the ceremony being held during the intermission, but when the game is delayed in between periods it throws off the game. The Caps were not likely knowing that it would get delayed, and therefore gives the home team an advantage. This is not to say it was intended this way, but who's to say that next time some team does it...? If anything, I think the nhl choose not to fine the flyers more so it didn't show up all over espn as another reason for them to bash the NHL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 I for one agree w/ the NHL on this one... in fact, 25k seems a bit weak for any fine on a team level. I have no problem with the ceremony being held during the intermission, but when the game is delayed in between periods it throws off the game. The Caps were not likely knowing that it would get delayed, and therefore gives the home team an advantage. This is not to say it was intended this way, but who's to say that next time some team does it...? If anything, I think the nhl choose not to fine the flyers more so it didn't show up all over espn as another reason for them to bash the NHL. By saying that the home team had some sort of advantage because the ceremony ran over 14 minutes, you imply that it was an intentional 14 additional minutes. Even so, assuming it was intentional, how does this at all give the home team any advantage whatsoever? Both teams are used to a set series of events between periods, both had that series altered. This is just another on that the mushheads in Toronto got wrong. I think that more teams should do ceremonies in this manner. It would ensure more fans are in the building, and it would make for great T.V., something the NHL needs. The article said it shouldn't matter as long as everyone is informed in advance, but it did not say if the proper people were informed. Judging from the fine, I doubt they were. In this case, I would agree with the fine for not informing the proper people, but not a fine for doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted February 16, 2008 By saying that the home team had some sort of advantage because the ceremony ran over 14 minutes, you imply that it was an intentional 14 additional minutes. ..... re-read my post... I didn't say they did it on purpose, but rather they got fined to prevent someone from doing it on purpose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 re-read my post... I didn't say they did it on purpose, but rather they got fined to prevent someone from doing it on purpose. I did read your post. You said that it gave the Flyers an advantage. "The Caps were not likely knowing that it would get delayed, and therefore gives the home team an advantage." This implies that A) It was an intentional 14 minute overrun, B) The Flyers players were informed that it would take longer and C) The Caps were not informed that it would take longer. Otherwise, how does it pose any advantage for either team? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BobRouse03 31 Report post Posted February 16, 2008 Imagine if Washington lost the game....how much bitching would they have done then? A 14 minute delay for the Capitals is a 14 minute delay for the Flyers as well. People want to ***** about things for the sake of bitching. By the way, I was at the game and the tribute was awesome! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites