Matt Ellis on Waivers

[DSM 114]

There are alot of strange details to this one.

- Why did he need to be waived to call up Hartigan? Don't we have 3 or 4 players on IR? Why does Hartigan need to come up anyway, we already had 13 forwards?

It somewhat reminds me of MacDonald going on waivers last year. It's probably to open up a spot to acquire 1 or 2 players at the deadline without unseating a regular player.

I really did predict he would get taken by a team like LA, they are most likely just adding him to have some depth after the deadline as they are most likely getting ready to unload a few players.

[SnipeShow 0]

Highly unlikely, as well as illegal.

I don't know how you can say unlikely when its been rumored that the Wings are going to get Stuart off the Kings for at least a week now? It might be a little out there but it just seems like something is in the works to me. Why would we waive him otherwise, as the guy above me said we have a handful of players on IR ... doesn't make sense to waive Ellis to me.

Edited February 21, 2008 by SnipeShow

[Turkey 0]

Actually, I think it makes perfectly good sense.

1) he wasn't playing and wasn't going to be playing anytime soon.

2) We are probably going to be making acquisitions soon via trade. We need space for that. This gives us needed flexibility.

It's that easy. There's no elaborate mystery or cheating of the rules going on here.

[esteef 2,679]

Wasn't there a quote somewhere that teams were going to use the waiver wire purposfully for trades, etc.? If so, maybe this means something from LA soon?

esteef

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

best of luck to Ellis, I really appreciated how hard he fought for us.

def. a sad news indeed

When and whom did he fight?

[Turkey 0]

When and whom did he fight?

I'm pretty sure that was "fought for us" in the not literal, "got into a fight" sense.

[SnipeShow 0]

Wasn't there a quote somewhere that teams were going to use the waiver wire purposfully for trades, etc.? If so, maybe this means something from LA soon?

esteef

I enjoy your presence on these boards esteef, thanks for that point. It just seems to be so clear to me that the Ellis thing wasn't just to "make space for the new guys". Wasn't he the captain of the Griffins when he played there? Even if he doesn't have much upside, you don't let a leader walk away from your organization like that. And hearing that Wings scouts went to a Blues/Kings game right after hearing rumors about Stuart coming to Detroit, it just seems too likely to me. Holland said himself that his priority is getting a defenseman at the deadline. Fits like pieces of a puzzle to me.

[2probert4 8]

I think relating this to McCarty is premature at best. Mac is still out of shape and not fast enough. Babs says we'll sign him but he also says he's only playing for the Wings if he proves he's capable. I recall a certain Russian in training camp who received the same message and never cracked the lineup. The same could happen to Mac. The difference is that I think Mac would stick it out in GR rather than just bailing were that to happen.

Babcock also said that the speed of the AHL is slower than what he would see in the NHL. McCarty still isnt really in shape yet, and 1 or 2 games won't get him a speedy promotion. They may sign him, but he'll still be there for a while and will be subject to evaluation before being called up.

[Kp-Wings 3]

I'm pretty sure Ellis is part of a package going to LA, think about it. Why would Detroit waive him? LA doesn't want to pay his entire salary so Detroit waives him knowing that LA gets first crack at picking him up... Holland and Lombardi had worked this out earlier, I'm almost positive. I guess we will just have to wait and see

I guess if you look at it that way, but Ellis is only making 475K, which is the absolute league minimum in terms of salary. I don't really see how Ellis' salary would have been a sticking point for LA to want him.

But, on the other hand, I guess your scenario makes sense. Hopefully this is the first step to getting Brad Stuart here in Detroit.

[irishtemper14+25 11]

I loved Ellis! Great intensity...a true grinder.

Sad day to see him go. GOd bless his soul.

[norrisnick 1]

I loved Ellis! Great intensity...a true grinder.

Sad day to see him go. GOd bless his soul.

Umm... Ellis was waived. Kenny didn't take him behind the Joe and Old Yeller him.

[Lou_Siffer 1]

Umm... Ellis was waived. Kenny didn't take him behind the Joe and Old Yeller him.

I was thinking along the same lines...

[stevkrause 1,247]

I was really hoping he'd clear...

MLive article

[Grittzkey 1]

i honestly cant believe he cleared.

but yet again.. when your hte wrost team in the nhl.. maybe new blood is all it takes to flip it around

Edited February 22, 2008 by Grittzkey

[russianswede919293 95]

Umm... Ellis was waived. Kenny didn't take him behind the Joe and Old Yeller him.

Greatest Post Ever!

And I don't see why people are surprised Ellis was taken, I would have been surprised had he not been taken to be honest. He is a hard worker, and there are plenty of teams that could use his work ethic as example.

[stevkrause 1,247]

i honestly cant believe he cleared.

but yet again.. when your hte wrost team in the nhl.. maybe new blood is all it takes to flip it around

you mean didn't clear?

[stevkrause 1,247]

Highly unlikely, as well as illegal.

Show me the rule where this is illeagal? This is definitely a possibility - not a probability, but a possibility, yes. Kenny is a genius and I wouldn't put it past him.

Edited February 22, 2008 by stevkrause

[58Miles2Joe 12]

I've got it!

they waived him to make room for Fabian Brunnstrom

you heard it here first.

Edited February 22, 2008 by 58Miles2Joe

[Turkey 0]

I've got it!

they waived him to make room for Fabian Brunnstrom

you heard it here first.

^^ This can't actually happen this season! I want to make that clear before half the board starts thinking it could be the case.

[Zion 93]

Matt, you will be missed!

[lars1970 1]

All of a sudden I am excited about this pick up. I wasn't sure who Ellis was, but the consensus is that you guys are going to miss him.

After the Kings walloped the Blues last night, the Kings commentators mentioned that Ellis was picked up as a "bigger" option to some of our other energy guys. Playoffs here we come!! OK, maybe not.

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Matt, you will be missed!

By the Griffins!

[58Miles2Joe 12]

^^ This can't actually happen this season! I want to make that clear before half the board starts thinking it could be the case.

True, thanks for clarifying that. But they were running out of room and so had to...oh wait, McCarty...meh

[Jwo 7]

It stinks that he is gone.

[Z and D for the C 712]

I really can't say I cared about Ellis, to be honest. :|

Not that he's particularly bad, but I just don't really see any potential in him. Like someone said the Griffins will miss him, but not the wings.