redwinger4747 6 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Check out the blown call of the Buffalo-Philly game. A minute into the 3rd, the teams are 4-on-4 when Roy jumps onto the ice as a 5th man, gets a breakaway pass and scores. If you slow down the highlights on TSN, you see they are 4-on-4, the camera starts in the Buffalo zone where the pass orginated, pans across the ice and you see 4 Buffalo players in the Buffalo zone. It then pans to Roy who receives the pass behind the Philly defense and goes in a breakaway and score. VERY CLEARLY too many men and they missed it. He just jumped on the ice behind the defense. At least we aren't the only ones getting bad calls. Check out the highlights on TSN. Edited March 5, 2008 by redwinger4747 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 somethings got to give, either the nhl goes to a coaches challenge or this is going to get ugly. I would say something like,..maybe if a Cup is decided by a blow call then they'll change but that's already happened. How much more NHL? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Canadian Wings Report post Posted March 5, 2008 who cares? f*** the flyers anyways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 you'll care when it happens to us,........and it will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgodzina 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 wonder if it was the same officials from the wings/sharks game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Who was the ref btw? I saw it, and imediately thought, hmmm Anaheim game, Sharks game. At least those blown games were not for a playoff birth. This was quite possibly the deciding factor. I don't care if you have Philly, they deserve the playoffs more then Buffalo does and this is absurd. Shape up Zebras. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 This is the fourth occurrence from this season I can think of off the top where a ref's bad call (or noncall) directly resulted in a goal when there shouldn't be one, or no goal when there should. This is happening way too often and really needs to be looked at. Refs aren't ever going to be perfect but perhaps we need to think of a coach's challenge or adding another ref or something. This really needs to stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seeinred 1,488 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Referee: #21 Don VanMassenhoven #42 Dan O'Rourke Linesman: #95 Jonny Murray #84 Tony Sericolo The final was 5-2, so I don't know how much of an impact it had. On the flipside though, that gave Buffalo the winning goal, and they scored again very quickly after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 I would say something like,..maybe if a Cup is decided by a blow call then they'll change but that's already happened. ummm... did you mean Hull's cup winning goal ? the league will NOT admit it's refs make mistakes as long as it's utterly blatant. and it's good because they can not dig the respect fans and players (should) have towards the refs. or some day nobody will even listen to refs which then makes zero sense to play the game any more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Problem is that the NHL really needs to get the refs to sharpen up since there have been many questionable calls made, & not made throughout this season.....I'm afraid 1 of these days Mickey Redmond is gonna get so worked-up that he'll leave the announcers box, & go after 1 of the refs I know what you're talking about but I still think NHL refs are way above soccer refs who cheat like crazy depending on who pays bigger bills. and in hockey you have video review Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest CaliWingsNut Report post Posted March 5, 2008 I know what you're talking about but I still think NHL refs are way above soccer refs who cheat like crazy depending on who pays bigger bills. and in hockey you have video review We have video review, but nothing is being changed because of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Firehawk 305 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 I'd agree that the refereeing is more of a joke now than it ever was, in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bluedevils_13 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 What I don't understand is why they have the rule, anout certain plays in the game that the refs call stands even if the video review CONCLUSIVELY shows otherwise (i.e. the Sharks game, the high stick against Edmonton in the playoffs years ago), honestly what is the point of that? I could understand to some point, but what is the point of having video if it isn't properly utilized. If a play can be proven conclusively by video, it should be able to overturn a BAD call, instead of just giving refs power for the sake of them having power. You would think the NHL would just simply do everything in its power to get the right call son the ice, and it's most certainly not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 somethings got to give, either the nhl goes to a coaches challenge or this is going to get ugly. I would say something like,..maybe if a Cup is decided by a blow call then they'll change but that's already happened. How much more NHL? If you are referring to the Hull goal in 1999, that goal was good. And no, even if it hadn't counted, the Stars would still have won the Cup. It was overtime in game 6 and the Stars had outplayed the Sabres pretty handily all series. The Sabres' chances of coming back and winning were slim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vangvace 12 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Referee: #21 Don VanMassenhoven #42 Dan O'Rourke Linesman: #95 Jonny Murray #84 Tony Sericolo The final was 5-2, so I don't know how much of an impact it had. On the flipside though, that gave Buffalo the winning goal, and they scored again very quickly after that. Completely killed Philly. They were still in WTF mode when the slugs went up 4-2. A bunch of bullsh... is what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RainingBlood 8 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Completely killed Philly. They were still in WTF mode when the slugs went up 4-2. A bunch of bullsh... is what it is. This league is total bs and so are the officials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Check out the blown call of the Buffalo-Philly game. A minute into the 3rd, the teams are 4-on-4 when Roy jumps onto the ice as a 5th man, gets a breakaway pass and scores. If you slow down the highlights on TSN, you see they are 4-on-4, the camera starts in the Buffalo zone where the pass orginated, pans across the ice and you see 4 Buffalo players in the Buffalo zone. It then pans to Roy who receives the pass behind the Philly defense and goes in a breakaway and score. VERY CLEARLY too many men and they missed it. He just jumped on the ice behind the defense. At least we aren't the only ones getting bad calls. Check out the highlights on TSN. We never were....we just notice the bad calls against the Wings more because we're Wings fans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 We never were....we just notice the bad calls against the Wings more because we're Wings fans. QFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Textbook 1 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 What I don't understand is why they have the rule, anout certain plays in the game that the refs call stands even if the video review CONCLUSIVELY shows otherwise (i.e. the Sharks game, the high stick against Edmonton in the playoffs years ago), honestly what is the point of that? I could understand to some point, but what is the point of having video if it isn't properly utilized. If a play can be proven conclusively by video, it should be able to overturn a BAD call, instead of just giving refs power for the sake of them having power. You would think the NHL would just simply do everything in its power to get the right call son the ice, and it's most certainly not. :judge: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 What I don't understand is why they have the rule, anout certain plays in the game that the refs call stands even if the video review CONCLUSIVELY shows otherwise (i.e. the Sharks game, the high stick against Edmonton in the playoffs years ago), honestly what is the point of that? I could understand to some point, but what is the point of having video if it isn't properly utilized. If a play can be proven conclusively by video, it should be able to overturn a BAD call, instead of just giving refs power for the sake of them having power. You would think the NHL would just simply do everything in its power to get the right call son the ice, and it's most certainly not. You make some good points, but it is not a matter of giving the refs power for the sake of it. The issue is time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 you'll care when it happens to us,........and it will. Er, didn't that happen to us last year in the playoffs? Anaheim (?) scored with 7 players on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shannyfan1414 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 you'll care when it happens to us,........and it will. Didn't happen to us against the Sharks? Somthing about a puck hitting the netting above the glass, landing on a sharks stick in front of the goal and then putting the puck in the net for a goal that did count in the end. I can't think of a bigger blown call in recent history. I'm sure there have been. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
up2here 41 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Ive said it many times.Ive been watching NHL hockey for over 25 years and this is the worst season of officiating that I can remember. Im not sure if any fans,coaches or players have any idea what a penalty is anymore,not to mention the blatent blown calls. The NHL needs to figure this out or they are going to lose more fans than they gain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut40 176 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 Man, and I thought our calls were bad. Well they were, but this is inexusable. It totaly obvious. It's not an "Opps it happened so fast I couldn't call it." There was plenty time to blow the whistle as he went from bench to net. This kind of S-word has to stop! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted March 5, 2008 (edited) Ive said it many times.Ive been watching NHL hockey for over 25 years and this is the worst season of officiating that I can remember. Im not sure if any fans,coaches or players have any idea what a penalty is anymore,not to mention the blatent blown calls. The NHL needs to figure this out or they are going to lose more fans than they gain. The NBA is having the same issue right now. They are attributing it to an influx of new officials. A lot of them are trying to establish themselves and let players know that they won't be bullied into calls and that certain players won't get the benefit. It is killing the speed of the game and making watching it unbearable at times. My question: Is the NHL experiencing the same youth movement or is it that (like the other thread) the game is just too fast. Because I agree this year has been horrible. Edited March 5, 2008 by Opie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites