wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Did anyone else hear Mike Babcocks post game press conference when he referenced Ericcson a stud? To me, Babs made it sound like theres no way he wont be here next season, and if he's that good, there isnt any reason he shouldnt be. re-sign Stuart, re-sign Chelios While I think Lilja has improved greatly over the years, there's just no room for him now. Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Chelios - Ericcson Lebda If we lose Meech and Quincey by letting Ericcson play, so be it. They are absolutely replaceable. Sign some journeymen to be a minor league contract or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SnipeShow 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 im fine with that, but i would take meech or quincey over chelios pretty much anyday of the week (unless chelios is playing one of his better games that night) he is just getting too old and slowing down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) I agree with you. I just cant see the wings turning Chelli down if he has interest in returning. If he walks though, this issue may work itself out. Edited May 11, 2008 by wingsownnhl43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) oops Edited May 11, 2008 by wingsownnhl43 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
C-TownWing 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Did anyone else hear Mike Babcocks post game press conference when he referenced Ericcson a stud? To me, Babs made it sound like theres no way he wont be here next season, and if he's that good, there isnt any reason he shouldnt be. re-sign Stuart, re-sign Chelios While I think Lilja has improved greatly over the years, there's just no room for him now. Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Chelios - Ericcson Lebda If we lose Meech and Quincey by letting Ericcson play, so be it. They are absolutely replaceable. Sign some journeymen to be a minor league contract or something. I did hear that..."I can't believe we're not dressing him" or something along those lines. This plan looks good to me, I just hope re-signing Stuart is as easy as everyone else seems to think, he's earning himself a decent payday in these playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lilja 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Yes hahaha that must have felt good for Jonathan to hear! Where did that come from just like that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 I'd miss Chelios though. But that's probably nostalgia talking though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaldean 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 I do hope Chelli retires after this season, just so that this whole process goes smoothly. We need some more young talent on the D line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
58Miles2Joe 12 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 That really surprised me when I heard that, but he did play like a stud when he was up. I think it'll be fun to watch these guys develop (Quincy, Ericsson, hopefully Kindl and Smith). I like your Sig, Pain Train Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) I'd love to see an ericsson, Quincey 3rd pairing next season because it's a perfect combo of offense and defence with lots of size and good speed and range. Having said that I fully expect Ericsson to be in the ahl until he's over ripe. Losing one of Meech, Quincey, Lebda because Chelios doesn't know when to hang em up would be a waste. Hopefully we win the cup so he can exit stage left on top. Edited May 11, 2008 by Pucks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucker4fischer 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 I'd love to see an ericsson, Quincey 3rd pairing next season because it's a perfect combo of offense and defence with lots of size and good speed and range. Having said that I fully expect Ericsson to be in the ahl until he's over ripe. Losing one of Meech, Quincey, Lebda because Chelios doesn't know when to hang em up would be a waste. Hopefully we win the cup so he can exit stage left on top. To my recollection I read that, the Wings can't send Ericsson down to the AHL anymore. He's won't clear waivers and some team will claim him like they did Matt Ellis. If that's true, then Ericcson is going to have to make the team. Someone can clarify if they know anything about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pucker4fischer 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) What makes players eligble to be placed on waivers? Is it their age, contract length, years played? I have no idea. Am I correct that most of the baby wings have 2-way contracts and therefore aren't eligble to be placed on waivers? Or am I completely and utterly confused Edited May 11, 2008 by pucker4fischer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted May 11, 2008 I'm fairly certain that Chelios will retire if the Wings win the Cup this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yemack 1 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) When we played against Montreal earlier this year, I noticed Chelios really went out his way to thank the fans and were trying to soak up the atmosphere. I remember him saying 'you never know when you are going to get this opportunity next time'. I dunno but to me, it doesn't sound like someone who is very confident about playing next year. Although he might be ready to play into his 50s physically, I think he realizes his time is near. If we win the Cup this year.. my guess is that he will think long and hard about retiring. Anyway I think Cheli still has something left in his tank. If he wants to come back, I think Wings will sign him. Edited May 11, 2008 by Yemack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
irishtemper14+25 11 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 i think the wings will sign him, and i wouldnt mind it that much...because i love cheli, but i do hope they let the pain train walk so that way cheli/lebda/quincey/ericson can rotate in at the third pairing and of course we have to resign stuart =D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Did anyone else hear Mike Babcocks post game press conference when he referenced Ericcson a stud? To me, Babs made it sound like theres no way he wont be here next season, and if he's that good, there isnt any reason he shouldnt be. re-sign Stuart, re-sign Chelios While I think Lilja has improved greatly over the years, there's just no room for him now. Lidstrom - Rafalski Kronwall - Stuart Chelios - Ericcson Lebda If we lose Meech and Quincey by letting Ericcson play, so be it. They are absolutely replaceable. Sign some journeymen to be a minor league contract or something. Here we go again. Look I like Ericsson. He has great potential but we aren't going to make him a starter over Lebda. He has to earn that spot. Experience in the NHL is critical. This is the Red Wings, we don't take rookies and instantly make them starters just because they are big. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 When we played against Montreal earlier this year, I noticed Chelios really went out his way to thank the fans and were trying to soak up the atmosphere. I remember him saying 'you never know when you are going to get this opportunity next time'. I dunno but to me, it doesn't sound like someone who is very confident about playing next year. Although he might be ready to play into his 50s physically, I think he realizes his time is near. If we win the Cup this year.. my guess is that he will think long and hard about retiring. Anyway I think Cheli still has something left in his tank. If he wants to come back, I think Wings will sign him. I agree with you. If we win the cup I think he will retire. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy24 44 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) I consider myself somewhat of an expert on Jonathan Ericsson, and I think, given the opportunity, he can be a very good defenseman in the NHL. edit: grammar Edited May 11, 2008 by Izzy24 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Across The Pond 196 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 What makes players eligble to be placed on waivers? Is it their age, contract length, years played? I have no idea. Am I correct that most of the baby wings have 2-way contracts and therefore aren't eligble to be placed on waivers? Or am I completely and utterly confused not too sure myself but i think waivers come into effect when a player has been in one team for a certain amount of days (i think its something like 30) and then they cant just go straight back down they need to clear waivers. this way you can call up a player for an injury when one of your big boys are on the IR but you dont have to lose them sending them back down. dont know if that helped?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chelios4eva 0 Report post Posted May 11, 2008 Does anyone have a video of the press conference? I'd like to see it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Here we go again. Look I like Ericsson. He has great potential but we aren't going to make him a starter over Lebda. He has to earn that spot. Experience in the NHL is critical. This is the Red Wings, we don't take rookies and instantly make them starters just because they are big. Sorry, but if Babs is raving over Ericsson right now and cant believe we arent dressing him, why would we waste his talent in GR? If Ericcson is as NHL ready as Babs made him out to be, he will be here next season, as he has top 2 pairing potential. Guys like Lebda, Quincy, Meech are nothing more than depth defenseman. They can be replaced very easily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsownnhl43 14 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Does anyone have a video of the press conference? I'd like to see it I don't have the exact link to the video, but you can find Babcocks post game press conference on tsn.ca if you search well enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,153 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 Here we go again. Look I like Ericsson. He has great potential but we aren't going to make him a starter over Lebda. He has to earn that spot. Experience in the NHL is critical. This is the Red Wings, we don't take rookies and instantly make them starters just because they are big. ...exactly, but it all weighs on Stuart coming back or not. I love Chelios, but he needs to retire. Lilja needs to go... If Stuart comes back, then the 5, 6 & 7 spots will be led by Lebda, with Eriksson, Meech, Quincey and lets not forget Kindl fighting for the 6 & 7 spots... ...if Stuart gets mad cash elsewhere, then 4, 5, 6 & 7 will up for grabs... ...Stuart has been good for the Wings, but if he's looking for Rafalski type money, there is no way the Wings keep him. I think Babcock is very confindent with his rookies, what do you think of this D? Lids - Rafa Kron - Ledba Erik - Meech Quinc (Kindl) ...young yes, but sooner or later the Wings will have that type of Defensive lineup, better start the rebuild while Lidsttrom is still here... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
This Is Bida 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 ...exactly, but it all weighs on Stuart coming back or not. I love Chelios, but he needs to retire. Lilja needs to go... If Stuart comes back, then the 5, 6 & 7 spots will be led by Lebda, with Eriksson, Meech, Quincey and lets not forget Kindl fighting for the 6 & 7 spots... ...if Stuart gets mad cash elsewhere, then 4, 5, 6 & 7 will up for grabs... ...Stuart has been good for the Wings, but if he's looking for Rafalski type money, there is no way the Wings keep him. I think Babcock is very confindent with his rookies, what do you think of this D? Lids - Rafa Kron - Ledba Erik - Meech Quinc (Kindl) ...young yes, but sooner or later the Wings will have that type of Defensive lineup, better start the rebuild while Lidsttrom is still here... Oh my god... Lebda our 2nd unit d-man? Please god no. If Stuart leaves, we need someone with a physical presence to take over his spot. Sorry, but I love Lebda and all with his great speed (which he STILL does not understand how to use) and being an american born player and all, but the kid has a long way to go to be a 2nd unit d-man. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalwinger_13 0 Report post Posted May 12, 2008 This whole situation is going to get interesting come this off season defiantly. I personally would let let lilja go, and somehow rid myself of lebda. After watching meech in there lebda to me looks real expendable cause what doe she brign besides speed.... to me nothing really. meech can atelast be a steady dman with upside to get better and be able to sit out a while and still find a grove when inserted. would love to see what he can do with a full season under his belt. BUt excited to see how quincy and Ericsson fit into the plans. just imagine th mess if fischer was still able to play, bless his heart. just my two cents Share this post Link to post Share on other sites