Hank 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Sure it's possible. In any other arena other than Joe Louis. Wings-Sharks 1994. Nuff said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dallas27 7 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Wings-Sharks 1994. Nuff said. Yea, point taken. But I was talking more in regard to this series/this playoff run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djup 0 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 that is why he is on ESPN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the_winged_wheel 3 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 call me a slappy if you want, wings in 5. pens have yet to face a defence like det. They’ve had a pretty easy run through the first three rounds, Ottawa was a push over, the rangers are a good team with a good goalie but who on their defence really scares you? and philly was out of it before it really begun with the injuries to their top two d-men, who by the way are good young players but not in the same league as lids and ralafski. I personally think Crosby and maklin are in for a rude awakening this series, add on the west I think is a much superior conference. fluery will be tested like never before, I think pens will get a win in their own building and det will skate around the joe with the cup after game 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 Just a few things that stand out to me when looking at this series and listening to Sports Talk Radio: -All the big named players on the Pens are 23 and under. It's their first trip to the finals, none of them have ever faced this kind of pressure before. I'm wondering with their young age, how they'll handle it. I'm wondering too, if Detroit's style will really frustrate Crosby, Staal, and Malkin. -The Pens are horrible in the Faceoff circle, while the Wings are #1. We have the puck all the time and rarely give it up, again creating frustration for the Pens YOUNG forwards. -Darren Eliot from CBC's Hockey Night in Canada thinks that Malkin is injured a little bit more than Pittsburgh is letting on. -Most people agree that the Western Conference is a lot tougher to play in than the Eastern Conference. I'm a firm believer that in sports, and in life, you need to lose or experience failure before you win and succeed. I've heard comparisons that this series looks a lot like the 1983 Finals, when NYI swept Edmonton, and I don't disagree. Pittsburgh is an excellent team, but I think this will be a year where they learn a lot about how to win, and win it all in either 2009 or 2010. With that said, Wings in 5, but the series will be close, similar to 2002. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akustyk 84 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 I love this threads where people bid like crazy about whose team has better paint on their shirts, whose noses are longer on average etc. who the * cares how our D matches against their D? has anyone ever watched a game where defencemen competed directly against each other? no? thank you for your answer. it's about how our defensive effort is able to stop Pens forward lines and vice versa. and looking at our blue line there's every reason to believe they'll get the job done. they kept Stars big names mostly off the scoresheet and these are no lame ducks when it comes to scoring. when it comes to Pens D against our forwards... tough to say but I think we're not necessarily the side which loses in this comparison. I like Wings chances here but let's not get beyond ourselves. this Pittsburgh is no inexperienced lucky team. they're in finals for a good reason. and they'll give Wings tougher fight than all the teams we met so far Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 I love this threads where people bid like crazy about whose team has better paint on their shirts, whose noses are longer on average etc. who the * cares how our D matches against their D? has anyone ever watched a game where defencemen competed directly against each other? no? thank you for your answer. it's about how our defensive effort is able to stop Pens forward lines and vice versa. and looking at our blue line there's every reason to believe they'll get the job done. they kept Stars big names mostly off the scoresheet and these are no lame ducks when it comes to scoring. when it comes to Pens D against our forwards... tough to say but I think we're not necessarily the side which loses in this comparison. I like Wings chances here but let's not get beyond ourselves. this Pittsburgh is no inexperienced lucky team. they're in finals for a good reason. and they'll give Wings tougher fight than all the teams we met so far Just a couple of things: First off the Canadians all worship the ice that Sid skates on so be prepared for lots of completely biased reporting. Most of the hockey talking heads are Canadian so you are not going to get an unbiased opinion. Be ready because if you are like me, you will probably puke after reading the onslaught of crap about how great the Pens (Sid's Pens) are. Secondly the series will come down to this. Who is going to stop Pavs and Hank? Gonchar will help but he's one man. Hal Gill? Sid and Malkin who aren't known for their defensive prowess? Now who's going to stop Sid and Malkin? One of our two Selke finalists? Or how bout our perenial Norris Trophy winner. Need I say more? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 20, 2008 It's pitiful to see such fan responses in here this playoff year towards people that might actually go against the Wings where their claims are fairly legit and realisitic. It keeps me up at night. Truly. Anyhow, like I said in another thread (or maybe it was this one?) -- I like Burnside a lot, but I think this is bad call on his part. We'll see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Not game 7 at the Joe. The Wings, having a couple recent Stanley Cup trips, I think would know how to close the deal at HOME on a GAME 7 during the Stanley Cup Finals. The Penguins, already being a young team and having no cup experience, one could assume would most likely fold. But discount that and play the middleman, it's very admirable. Understand what you are saying, and more than fair enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 that is why he is on ESPN I can bet you other sports analysts probably will pick against the Red Wings as well who probably work outside of ESPN. Does that make them dumb as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 It's dumb to call someone dumb for making a pick. The Pens are good, and since the Wings and Pens never play each other, virtually every comparison has too many X-factors. No way calling either team to win in Game 7 would be dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdogg1m 3 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Can anyone who has ESPN.com insider access post todays chat wrap with Burnside? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imisssergei 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 What I find ridiculous is picking a team in 7 games without seeing the first 6. What if Detroit goes down 0-3, then storms back? Who has the momentum now? The game is at the Joe. Detroit has to have the advantage there. Visa versa, if Pittsburgh goes down 0-3 then comes back, you still have to give them the nod in game 7. I'll take the Wings in 6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 Minute Misconduct 104 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Mathew Barnaby (TSN) - Wings in 6 Al Strachan (The Score) - Wings in 4 Steve Ludzig (The Score) - Wings in 7 Steve Kouleas (The Score) - Pens in 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icteria virens 11 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 "We haven't seen a team boast this much world-class talent down the middle since maybe Joe Sakic and Peter Forsberg were in their prime in Colorado. " end quote enough said, no cred ... at all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 It's dumb to call someone dumb for making a pick. The Pens are good, and since the Wings and Pens never play each other, virtually every comparison has too many X-factors. No way calling either team to win in Game 7 would be dumb. It's dumb to call someone dumb for calling someone dumb for making a pick. Sorry, had to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Mathew Barnaby (TSN) - Wings in 6 Al Strachan (The Score) - Wings in 4 Steve Ludzig (The Score) - Wings in 7 Steve Kouleas (The Score) - Pens in 7 hey, I'm confident too, but Wings in 4 is really optimistic .. I'll take it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Serious question...you guys did not score a ton of goals on Dallas.....do you seriously think Dallas is better than the Pens defensively? Are you seriously going to expect me to say that Fleury is a better goalie than Turco? This guy carried his team to series victories against the reigning SC champion and the team largely expected to win this one, then bit the bullet when down 3-0 and make the Wings begin to sweat. Fleury faced up against a dud Senators team NOBODY expected would get anywhere, a Rangers squad that has no defense to write home about, and a Philly squad with its two best blueliners out of the running. Yeah, you're damn right I seriously think that Dallas is better than the Pens defensively; Dallas didn't get a free ride to where they ended up. Next you'll be telling me that the Flyers were a tougher challenge to the Pens than the Stars were to the Wings. I will submit that your defensemen may rank higher than ours....but there is much more to defense than just the D-men You're very right; and I don't see any of that 'much more' element to defense on Pittsburgh. I don't see any Selke winners/nominations on the Penguins. I don't see a goalie capable of singlehandedly stealing a series on the Penguins. Heck, I don't see any defensemen in and of themselves that look like hall-of-famers on the Penguins. Lets face it, Pittsburgh has made wonderful use of its explosive offense and embarrassingly mismatched series to cover up the inconsistencies of its blue line - one that has let even Ottawa get in some goal streaks - and the media have jumped at the opportunity to label it as 'good defense'. It's definitely better than what they had two seasons ago, but these constant allegations that defensive matchups are 'equal' or 'marginally close' to a team like the Wings' is absolutely laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
va Winger 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Back to the topic of the post. Burnside = ESPN.....that says it all. for someone who used to frequent The ESPN media circus........i have certainly seen the light in recent years, especially in regards to Hockey. If your a Poker fan (i'm not) tune in.get the inside scoop on the odds of pulling a royal flush. When it comes to Hockey, I think very few truly dedicated, fair people report it. Hey, He has to pick someone to win................Why not the Pens. They are certainly Cinderella with there young talented forwards and dynamic run thus far..............besides everyone loves to hate the Wings and conversely picks the opponent. I don't pay much attention to all these self proclaimed experts..........We all know the battle for the cup will be a great one (no pun intended WG) and I for one can't wait to see these two offensive powerhouses slug it out in hopes of claiming the most coveted trophy in all of Sports ! Talk is cheap....................Let the players decide who deserves their name embossed on Lord Stanleys CUP ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Back to the topic of the post. Burnside = ESPN.....that says it all. for someone who used to frequent The ESPN media circus........i have certainly seen the light in recent years, especially in regards to Hockey. If your a Poker fan (i'm not) tune in.get the inside scoop on the odds of pulling a royal flush. When it comes to Hockey, I think very few truly dedicated, fair people report it. Hey, He has to pick someone to win................Why not the Pens. They are certainly Cinderella with there young talented forwards and dynamic run thus far..............besides everyone loves to hate the Wings and conversely picks the opponent. I don't pay much attention to all these self proclaimed experts..........We all know the battle for the cup will be a great one (no pun intended WG) and I for one can't wait to see these two offensive powerhouses slug it out in hopes of claiming the most coveted trophy in all of Sports ! Talk is cheap....................Let the players decide who deserves their name embossed on Lord Stanleys CUP ! Burnside has definitely picked the Wings in the past, and LGW-whipping-analyst Barry Melrose has even picked the Wings these last few times. Not everybody is against them, and this whole media bias against the Red Wings that people claim in here is utter nonsense I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
va Winger 0 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Melrose is a fair weather fan..............prevents Egg on the face ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 Melrose is a fair weather fan..............prevents Egg on the face ! So? That still doesn't change that the whole "media conspiracy/picking against the Red Wings all the time" theory in here by so many is completely ridiculous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 I dont think its a dumb pick, just a s***ty analysis. If we could not shut down the likes of Crosby, Malkin and Staal, I hardly doubt we would make it to game 7.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 So? That still doesn't change that the whole "media conspiracy/picking against the Red Wings all the time" theory in here by so many is completely ridiculous. Give it a rest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted May 21, 2008 What I find ridiculous is picking a team in 7 games without seeing the first 6. What if Detroit goes down 0-3, then storms back? Who has the momentum now? The game is at the Joe. Detroit has to have the advantage there. Visa versa, if Pittsburgh goes down 0-3 then comes back, you still have to give them the nod in game 7. I'll take the Wings in 6. Ummm, I'll take your view.....I find it ridiculous to pick a team to win in 6 games wihtout seeing the first 5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
