What Would You Rather Have?

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Always wondered what I would want. The first choice would get the top dog and good players. The second choice would give me more players and a better chance of getting lucky.

How 'bout you?

Edited June 2, 2008 by Wings_Dynasty

[redwinger4747 6]

Always wondered what I would want. The first choice would get the top dog and good players. The second choice would give me more players and a better chance of getting lucky.

How 'bout you?

Wow this is random, but those #1 picks are too tempting.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

I wanted a different kind of topic to cool some guys off in the other threads. This seems more of a debatable topic than "Z and Dats are better than Crosby" or "Pissburgh fans are sore losers."

[Millertime 0]

Would the first pick be Detroit's outright, or would we trade with some crappy team? Becouse if its our's from the begining id be pissed at the s***ty season.

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

Would the first pick be Detroit's outright, or would we trade with some crappy team? Becouse if its our's from the begining id be pissed at the s***ty season.

Say we won a lottery.

[ThreeRiversFan 0]

I wanted a different kind of topic to cool some guys off in the other threads. This seems more of a debatable topic than "Z and Dats are better than Crosby" or "Pissburgh fans are sore losers."

APPLAUDS

[imisssergei 0]

Even though the Wings scouts find some gems in later rounds with end of the round picks, there is a higher chance that a top 5 pick that these same scouts pick will blossom into something pretty special, and these earlier picks would let them draft players that are higher up on their boards.

[norrisnick 1]

#20 and #30. Easily.

A. Because the #30 comes with winning the Cup.

B. Give Hakan, Nill, McDonnell and the rest of the crew as many swings at the plate as possible.

C. The only thing better about the first option is the 19 spots between the first pick and #20. After that the #30s are all one slot ahead of the following #1s with an extra #20 tossed in for good measure.

#1

#20

#30

#31

#50

#60

#61

#80

#90

#91

#110

#120

#121

#140

#150

I take the bolded picks and run.

[betterREDthandead 58]

I'd much, much rather have twice the picks.

[Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204]

I'd take the 1st picks. But if getting the 30th pick meant winning the cup, I'd take that over anything.

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

Maxim Kuznetsov? Jesse Wallin? Yan Golubovsky?

Give me the #1 pick, please.

[Bannedforlife 403]

#20 and #30. Easily.

A. Because the #30 comes with winning the Cup.

B. Give Hakan, Nill, McDonnell and the rest of the crew as many swings at the plate as possible.

C. The only thing better about the first option is the 19 spots between the first pick and #20. After that the #30s are all one slot ahead of the following #1s with an extra #20 tossed in for good measure.

#1

#20

#30

#31

#50

#60

#61

#80

#90

#91

#110

#120

#121

#140

#150

I take the bolded picks and run.

I disagree, it depends on the draft. Take 2004 for instance

#1 - Alexander Ovechkin

#20 - Travis Zajac

#30 - Andy Rogers

#31 - Johannes Salmonsson

#50 - Enver Lisin

#60 - Brandon Dubinsky

#61 - Alex Goligoski

#80 - Billy Ryan

#90 - Justin Pogge

#91 - Alexander Edler

#110 - Ned Lukacevic

#120 - Mitch Maunu

#121 - Kris Hogg

#140 - Jake Dowell

#150 - Mikhail Grabovski

I'd take Ovechkin and run

[eva unit zero 271]

Maxim Kuznetsov? Jesse Wallin? Yan Golubovsky?

All were busts and all were drafted by Scotty Bowman.

Ken Holland's first round draft picks:

Jiri Fischer, Niklas Kronwall, Jakub Kindl.

I would take any one of those three over all three of the others.

[Probert 5 For Fighting 0]

All were busts and all were drafted by Scotty Bowman.

Ken Holland's first round draft picks:

Jiri Fischer, Niklas Kronwall, Jakub Kindl.

I would take any one of those three over all three of the others.

And I'd take a #1 pick over any of them.

[norrisnick 1]

You can't line up the numbers from past drafts and go with that.

I'm going to give the Red Wings scouts as many chances to hit a home run as possible. Hell, the #20 would be the 2nd highest pick the Wings have had in a decade and a half.

That #1 overall could just as easily be Patrik Stefan...

[norrisnick 1]

Hell, take 2002.

The Wings' 1st pick was at #58. They picked Hudler, Fleischmann (traded for Lang), Filppula, Meech, and Ericsson. Sure the BJs got Rick Nash, but I'm more than happy with the 4 guys we have to look forward to.

[nkuehnl 0]

The #1's.

A) Detroit isn't getting twice the picks now and they're doing just fine drafting those gems in the late rounds.

B) Players that go 1st overall are much different now than they were 10 years ago. In addition to getting a Filppula, Zetterberg, or whoever at #91, Detroit could also get an Ovechkin, Crosby, or Stamkos at #1.

C) Detroit could easily trade that #1 pick and get a fantastic package that helps them right now, as opposed to having to wait for the player to mature.

Double picks sounds tempting, especially with our management and scouting, but that first overall is a sure thing nowadays and you're not going to find many Crosbys or Ovechkins outside of the top 2 picks.

[Bannedforlife 403]

You can't line up the numbers from past drafts and go with that.

I'm going to give the Red Wings scouts as many chances to hit a home run as possible. Hell, the #20 would be the 2nd highest pick the Wings have had in a decade and a half.

That #1 overall could just as easily be Patrik Stefan...

Which is why I said it depends on the draft year. Ovechkin, Crosby, Malkin, were 100% sure things, superstars before they ever touched NHL ice. 2001, 2004, 2005 I'd take the #1s. 2000, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007 I'd take the 20s and 30s

[eva unit zero 271]

And I'd take a #1 pick over any of them.

My point was that the 'busts' being brought up were picked by someone other than the guy currently in charge. Bowman got the GM job because he was a legend, and Murray made a bad trade. Holland got it because he was arguably the best scout in the league.

Holland knows when to listen to which scouts, and THAT is why the Wings have drafted so well the past ten years. Because he knows his scouting team very well, he can properly filter their information and knows what to do when.

And ultimately...having double picks would also allow the Wings to make trades involving picks and prospects while still keeping the cupboard stocked.

[norrisnick 1]

My point was that the 'busts' being brought up were picked by someone other than the guy currently in charge. Bowman got the GM job because he was a legend, and Murray made a bad trade. Holland got it because he was arguably the best scout in the league.

Holland knows when to listen to which scouts, and THAT is why the Wings have drafted so well the past ten years. Because he knows his scouting team very well, he can properly filter their information and knows what to do when.

And ultimately...having double picks would also allow the Wings to make trades involving picks and prospects while still keeping the cupboard stocked.

Hakan Andersson, genius super scout extraordinaire, says Holland is the best scout he's ever seen.

[norrisnick 1]

Drafting in the NHL has gotta be more challenging when compared to it's rivals (MLB, NBA, NFL - many spend 3-4 years in college/had time to 'grow' in their respective sport before they're drafted) since just about everyone drafted for the NHL is 18 years of age - just basically kids whom need time to mature (both physically, & mentally) before they're ready for the NHL (if they're good enough).

Looking back @ numerous 1st round picks by the Red Wings - we see a fair # of them not making it into the NHL; and a few guys like Daigle were complete busts.

I'd still go for the #1 overall pick since anything after the top 10 seems a crapshoot in many drafts.

The Wings use loaded dice...

[C-TownWing 0]

If I get our scouting staff, I take the extra picks. With anyone else's, I take the #1.

[cirov19 1]

This is tricky...

I just made it 50/50.

I have never seen a poll that was even.

Edited June 2, 2008 by cirov19

[Wings_Dynasty 267]

This is tricky...

I just made it 50/50.

I have never seen a poll that was even.

Me either, I think that the potential of the #1 overall pick is too appealing to some.

[Datsyerberger 279]

This is indeed a toughy, but when it comes down to the Wings and the capabilities of their scouting, I'd prefer double the picks. While the #1 has a good chance of being a star or atleast very good player, it's by no means a guarantee. Given that probably only the first 10 picks or so you have a very good chance of snagging the bet talent of the draft, everything beyond that is a bit more of a crapshoot. And I'd rather have 9 crapshoots than 4. The Wings scouting has proven time and time again they can dig out diamonds in the rough in relatively high (and sometimes very high) picks.. they do it with far too much consistency for it to be dumb luck. Every additional late pick you give them is the chance for them to pull up another Z or Dats.. while they may pull out a Crosby in the 1st pick, I'd rather them use a larger amount of picks and pull out 2 Dats/Zs and a Homer or two. The only thing that even makes this a tough choice is the 1st pick.. take that out and the 29-30 out and make it the 31, 61, 91, and 121 vs the 59-60, 89-90, 119-120 and 149-150 and it's a no-brainer.