Hasek has been a real team player!

[YoungGuns1340 1]

I'll definitely stand up here and say I bashed Hasek during the season. And why not? Lets face it, he played some TERRIBLE hockey this year at times, but he still deserves credit because he did win us a lot of games and he did get us a pair to start out the 2008 playoffs. And its great to see him not causing a ruckus over not being the starting goaltender still throughout the playoffs.

[55fan 5,133]

When I first joined here, I was a hardcore Ozzie fan who thought Dom was very talented. Now I am a hardcore Ozzie fan who thinks Dom is talented and loves Dom and thinks Ozzie is talented.

They're 2 sides of a coin who have each others back and whether it's heads or tails, we all win. They've figured this out, and it works; on and off the ice. Now if we could only teach Congress this trick.

[MabusIncarnate 5,359]

I think one of the biggest discouragements people had about Hasek coming back to Detroit for a 2nd time was the Hasek/Cujo situation that wasn't very pretty. Hasek then compared to his actions now is excellent, and he deserves applause for his sportsmanship in this situation. Good topic Shoe.

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

So would Chelios... let's all sing his praises as well... Should we throw in Fisch, Downey, Meech, Ericsson, and Quincey?

Yes on Chelios since he probably wants to be playing as well and putting any personal ego aside, no to the rest of them b/c those are apples to oranges comaprisons when those last few haven't even played any playoff games this year.

[Gordie Howe hat trick 110]

Yeah, this whole siduation just adds to my respect for Dom, and evermore solidifies his place and my favorite goalie of all time.

[Guest mindfly]

Not to take anything away from the dominator but his glory days are over, his goaliestyle is ancient, its a time of the butterfly-style. Hasek should retire after this season when he become a UFA.

I would also just sit on the bench and smile and be a "teamplayer" if i got $2,050,000 for ~45games or something

Just my 2.

[interminded 1]

Not to take anything away from the dominator but his glory days are over, his goaliestyle is ancient, its a time of the butterfly-style. Hasek should retire after this season when he become a UFA.

I don't think Dom's style is ancient.

It was a revolution in the 90's and it's still an unmatched style.

And we can't say he hasn't been succesful this season.

I would also just sit on the bench and smile and be a "teamplayer" if i got $2,050,000 for ~45games or something

If you say something like this, you clearly have no notion of the person and athlete Dominik Hasek.

[Nev 1,085]

I think Hasek is done and he knows it - which is why he's such a smiley back-up. He's accepted his career is over, is at peace with it, and wants Ozzie to win the cup cos

1) Ozzie is his chum

2) Dom gets a 2nd cup on his resume.

[puckloo39 5,686]

Just a little aside for the few who believe that Ozzie has nothing to learn from a legend like Hasek. As someone else here said, who in life knows everything and has nothing left to learn?

zen goalie

"After I play a game, I just try not to talk about hockey. I just try and blank my mind. Right after a game, right in the dressing room, I'll eat an orange or have a banana or do whatever I do to get stretched out, just try and breathe easy, just forget about hockey for a while, just to clear my mind so I'm not blowing my mind out anymore.

"I learned that from [Dominik Hasek]," he added. "He was relaxed off the ice. He was calm and jovial, then when the game started, it was 'Game on,' ready. I really noticed he saved his mind for the game. Sometimes, before, I was kind of blowing myself out even before I stopped the puck."

The hallmark of Ozzie's turnaround season is his calmness and willingness to accept and not take things personally. He says he learned this from watching Dom, his partner in goal. Ozzie is the man, and so is Dom. I am glad we got that settled before the end of this season, as it could be Dom's last.

However, regarding next season: if I know one thing about Dom, it's that you will never know what he's going to do, until he does it.

[eva unit zero 271]

A little late in the game for this, but better late than never. Where was all this respect through the season?

How soon some people forget that Dom is half of the tandem that got us to this point. And yes, I saw some bashing through the season, so don't play innocent, you who were guilty of it.

Dom has been a class person through all this. You can tell it's eating his heart out to sit and watch instead of being in that goal every night. But if it means we get the Cup, he'll do whatever it takes. Like Cheli, Aaron and D-Mac, and some of the others, they will sacrifice their playing time for the good of the team. They might be sitting on the bench, but their names will be on that trophy as well.

It's Dom's decision whether he comes back or not, and if he does, I'll welcome him back gladly. If he doesn't, then my only regret is that I never got the chance to talk to him at camp. I would have loved the chance. It would have been a pleasure.

I would respond and say I have been consistent with my 'bashing' as you call it...I haven't said 'Oh man Dom sucks for making that mistake' and then turned around at the end of the year and said how awesome he's been all season and that I've always had his back. When he's made mistakes that he obviously shouldn't have, I've called him out on it. Just like every other player on the team. When they have made mistakes they shouldn't have, they receive a little burn from me. if they are playing well enough in their role, I generally give them credit. It's why I have bashed Hasek more than usual this season (he has had some terrible games) and why I generally don't bash guys like Samuelsson and Hudler who are the standard whipping boys on the forum because they aren't scoring 100 points, and why I called out Flip and Cleary for not producing for much of the playoffs despite getting prime ice time.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Just a little aside for the few who believe that Ozzie has nothing to learn from a legend like Hasek. As someone else here said, who in life knows everything and has nothing left to learn?

zen goalie

"After I play a game, I just try not to talk about hockey. I just try and blank my mind. Right after a game, right in the dressing room, I'll eat an orange or have a banana or do whatever I do to get stretched out, just try and breathe easy, just forget about hockey for a while, just to clear my mind so I'm not blowing my mind out anymore.

"I learned that from [Dominik Hasek]," he added. "He was relaxed off the ice. He was calm and jovial, then when the game started, it was 'Game on,' ready. I really noticed he saved his mind for the game. Sometimes, before, I was kind of blowing myself out even before I stopped the puck."

The hallmark of Ozzie's turnaround season is his calmness and willingness to accept and not take things personally. He says he learned this from watching Dom, his partner in goal. Ozzie is the man, and so is Dom. I am glad we got that settled before the end of this season, as it could be Dom's last.

However, regarding next season: if I know one thing about Dom, it's that you will never know what he's going to do, until he does it.

Like almost breakinga promising young playerfs neck in a decided game just to look cool?

for god sakes whats next... praising injury ridden players cause they are didnt mean to get injured?

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

Yes on Chelios since he probably wants to be playing as well and putting any personal ego aside, no to the rest of them b/c those are apples to oranges comaprisons when those last few haven't even played any playoff games this year.

Chelios also has a valid reason to be pissed.... hes actually better than the player he is scracthed for.

LILIJA SHOT

[puckloo39 5,686]

Like almost breakinga promising young playerfs neck in a decided game just to look cool?

for god sakes whats next... praising injury ridden players cause they are didnt mean to get injured?

What does this have to do with Dom? Nothing? Thought not.

Keep your head up, or you won't last in the NHL -- at least not for long. You're really reaching to try and de-rail the thread, but that wouldn't be anything new from you.

Edited June 4, 2008 by puckloo39

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

I would respond and say I have been consistent with my 'bashing' as you call it...I haven't said 'Oh man Dom sucks for making that mistake' and then turned around at the end of the year and said how awesome he's been all season and that I've always had his back. When he's made mistakes that he obviously shouldn't have, I've called him out on it. Just like every other player on the team. When they have made mistakes they shouldn't have, they receive a little burn from me. if they are playing well enough in their role, I generally give them credit. It's why I have bashed Hasek more than usual this season (he has had some terrible games) and why I generally don't bash guys like Samuelsson and Hudler who are the standard whipping boys on the forum because they aren't scoring 100 points, and why I called out Flip and Cleary for not producing for much of the playoffs despite getting prime ice time.

And thats why you are one of the only posters whos opionion i hold stock in. your realistic.

[Guest EZBAKETHAGANGSTA]

What does this have to do with Dom? Nothing? Thought not.

Keep your head up, or you won't last in the NHL -- at least not for long. You're really reaching to try and de-rail the thread, but that wouldn't be anything new from you.

Im entitiled to my opinion (which most sensible people would agree with), not trying to derail a thread. all im saying is the fact that there is no thread for chelios or any other player not playing about being a great team leader is because it is already expected by them. I guess Hasek just took 40 something years to mature

[eva unit zero 271]

maybe.....

things like the hardware dom has won from being a mvp caliber goalie which is something oz has not won yet. not that this is to bash osgood but to remind you that hasek is still the better all time goalie of the 2.

I did not dispute that Dom has had the better career. But Ozzie right now is the better goaltender, and he plays a completely different style than Hasek, and always has. It's not like he was some raw kid or some career backup who suddenly got in the room with Dom and Dom was able to magically bring his career to new heights...Oz is a seasoned veteran who has been an elite goalie, a star netminder, and a Stanley Cup winner while Hasek was still in Buffalo.

The post I replied to made it out like Osgood, who didn't play a single game for the same team as Hasek until he had over 300 career wins, was a rookie who would otherwise be a backup or in the minors had it not been for Hasek's veteran presence...which is completely incorrect.

[puckloo39 5,686]

I did not dispute that Dom has had the better career. But Ozzie right now is the better goaltender, and he plays a completely different style than Hasek, and always has. It's not like he was some raw kid or some career backup who suddenly got in the room with Dom and Dom was able to magically bring his career to new heights...Oz is a seasoned veteran who has been an elite goalie, a star netminder, and a Stanley Cup winner while Hasek was still in Buffalo.

The post I replied to made it out like Osgood, who didn't play a single game for the same team as Hasek until he had over 300 career wins, was a rookie who would otherwise be a backup or in the minors had it not been for Hasek's veteran presence...which is completely incorrect.

I don't believe anyone in this thread ever even implied most of what you said here. Praising Hasek has nothing to do with Ozzie's competence. Someone made an off-hand comment that Ozzie learned some stuff from Dom. He did. Ozzie said so (go back and read the article I posted this morning).

Lots of nice hyperbole and over-reaction here, Eva. No one will disagree with a lot of this, since you made it up in your head.

It takes nothing away from Ozzie to admit that Dom was a great team mate, and certainly not a detriment in Detroit this season. So relax, and quit trying to prove Ozzie is the better goalie. He was great for us. We all know it.

[Williams29fan 6]

With how great dom has been i am shocked that he is just barely getting his name on the cup with exactly 41 games play during the regular season.

Kudos to Dom!

[eva unit zero 271]

I don't believe anyone in this thread ever even implied most of what you said here. Praising Hasek has nothing to do with Ozzie's competence. Someone made an off-hand comment that Ozzie learned some stuff from Dom. He did. Ozzie said so (go back and read the article I posted this morning).

Lots of nice hyperbole and over-reaction here, Eva. No one will disagree with a lot of this, since you made it up in your head.

It takes nothing away from Ozzie to admit that Dom was a great team mate, and certainly not a detriment in Detroit this season. So relax, and quit trying to prove Ozzie is the better goalie. He was great for us. We all know it.

The statement I was referring to was, to paraphrase "I'm sure Ozzie has had a few questions for Hasek" which is different than the article you posted. In the article you posted, Osgood says he started following the approach to games that he saw Hasek take. That is not the same context as saying he had questions for him, which implies that Hasek in some way helped Ozzie's technique. I was stating that since the two play completely different styles, that is extremely unlikely. The best analogy is if someone said Nick Lidstrom had questions for Chris Chelios in 2000. Chelios had the greater career at that point, yet it would have been foolish to say that Lidstrom would have been seeking Cheli's advice on playing technique, as was implied about Ozzie and Hasek.

If you would go back and reread my posts, I never said that Ozzie didn't or couldn't learn anything from Hasek;

I simply objected to the statement that made it seem as if Osgood were a raw prospect that Haske molded into a great goaltender and not a seasoned veteran who had won it all before.

[Kira 451]

To those of you who somehow missed the title of this thread, can we please stick to the subject at hand?

And to those who believe that liking one is automatically hating the other, nothing could be further from the truth. It is not a "one against the other" type deal here...they compliment each other. They learn from each other. They bounce ideas and theories off each other. These two are not a couple of egomaniacs who are competing to see which one is better. They work together. It's like a couple of people who are dancing partners. You don't fight each other when you dance - you work in coordination.

I know it sounds funny to use a dance analogy, but if you think about it, it really fits.

[eva unit zero 271]

To those of you who somehow missed the title of this thread, can we please stick to the subject at hand?

And to those who believe that liking one is automatically hating the other, nothing could be further from the truth. It is not a "one against the other" type deal here...they compliment each other. They learn from each other. They bounce ideas and theories off each other. These two are not a couple of egomaniacs who are competing to see which one is better. They work together. It's like a couple of people who are dancing partners. You don't fight each other when you dance - you work in coordination.

I know it sounds funny to use a dance analogy, but if you think about it, it really fits.

No. it's like this.

[Kira 451]

What did you think you would prove with that?

[eva unit zero 271]

What did you think you would prove with that?

That I have a sense of humor, even if some other posters in this thread are severely lacking in that department?

Not naming names or anything.

[puckloo39 5,686]

That I have a sense of humor, even if some other posters in this thread are severely lacking in that department?

Not naming names or anything.

I like Mad Max movies. A lot, actually. The point here is, this is a "Hasek is a team player = good guy, we appreciate him thread." Appreciate, as is what a good job, Dom, we thought you were great.

Coming in to post just to point out that Ozzie is better, etc., is derailing the thread. There is only one positive thread about Dom in this forum. Whereas, every other thread this entire season has been anti-Hasek (whether it actually started out having anything at all to do with him, didn't seem to matter), so this one time.... can we just be positive about Dom and not try to prove how useless he was this season?

Is that asking too much? Probably so, but in the spirit of this evening and in honor of this season, I wish some of you all would try, at least. Ozzie would probably not appreciate the concerted efforts of his ardent fans to try and make him look better, at his partner's expense. Ozzie actually likes Dom, unless he's pretending, and I don't think Ozzie is that sort of person.

[eva unit zero 271]

I like Mad Max movies. A lot, actually. The point here is, this is a "Hasek is a team player = good guy, we appreciate him thread." Appreciate, as is what a good job, Dom, we thought you were great.

Coming in to post just to point out that Ozzie is better, etc., is derailing the thread. There is only one positive thread about Dom in this forum. Whereas, every other thread this entire season has been anti-Hasek (whether it actually started out having anything at all to do with him, didn't seem to matter), so this one time.... can we just be positive about Dom and not try to prove how useless he was this season?

Is that asking too much? Probably so, but in the spirit of this evening and in honor of this season, I wish some of you all would try, at least. Ozzie would probably not appreciate the concerted efforts of his ardent fans to try and make him look better, at his partner's expense. Ozzie actually likes Dom, unless he's pretending, and I don't think Ozzie is that sort of person.

You are responding as if I said 'Dom couldn't teach Ozzie nothing because Ozzie is the best goalie in the world, and Hasek is a bum' when all I did was object to a statement that suggested Ozzie has had to seek out Hasek's wisdom.

I didn't suggest that Ozzie has had a better career (which is what I was accused of earlier) nor did I bring up the fact Oz has had a better season until I was debunking the previous claim.

It would be nice if I were allowed to object to a factually unsupported statement without the hounds being released, loo. But then, I should know better I suppose.