12/13 GDT: Red Wings 5 at Coyotes 4, (SO)

[YMHC 23]

great! got out of bed at 3 am for this one.

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

IM not sure who did it, but a coyote had his hands around a wing's legs, lifted him up and slammed him down....no call...then he's down behind the play and can't get back...and the yotes score...f*** the NHL and f*** bettman...i'm so sick of watching the wings get shafted on the calls

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

This team is the same last year in respect to players, but they don't have the same mentality as last years team did. Giving up 3 goals a game is not the same team as last year.

Thank you!

But for the rest of you...lets continue to blame it on McClellan who's obviously the glue who held this team together. Get a grip people.

[Z and D for the C 712]

Is this what it feels like to have a middle of the pack team?

Edited December 14, 2008 by Z and D for the C

[Wingsallwin 0]

can we just score right now.. blowing up the 3rd period.. kind of depressed last few days but why is ref so ***

[puckloo39 5,686]

could someone please get Hossa some new sticks? Sturdier ones?

[Doggy 130]

What the f*** is with Hossa's sticks?

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Todd McLellan was our assistant coach. The fact that our defense has become absolutely terrible after hiring Brad McCrimmon means its a defensive situation.

Do you have any clue that he's the new coach of the number one team in the league?

Do you have any clue that Maclean coached the defense last year?

McLellan coached the offense and the PP. But you're smart..right?

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Thank you!

But for the rest of you...lets continue to blame it on McClellan who's obviously the glue who held this team together. Get a grip people.

One person has "blamed" McLellan. And NO ONE has said it rests all on McLellan's shoulders. Whereas you have been the one saying the Wings will shake out of this thing after a few games. Maybe you should get a grip on the fact that roster talent or not, this team doesn't have what it takes unless changes are made.

[MTU_Huskies963 398]

12 penalty mins to 6 for the yotes F U REFS

[Jocu 0]

DAMNIT KRONWALL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THE BENCH? RESTING? WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THAT 4TH GOAL!?!?!??!!

[Wings_Rule_1010 4]

4 goals against? Ouch. I don't care how amazing a team's offense is, they are not going to score 4-5 goals every game. Mentality and work ethic need improvement badly.

[ShanahanMan 473]

Thank you!

But for the rest of you...lets continue to blame it on McClellan who's obviously the glue who held this team together. Get a grip people.

Don't get me wrong, I also believeit has a lot to do with our players lacking the drive and hunger for the cup. The fact that it is just about the same team on paper shows its a mental issue as well. But you can't deny that the loss of McClellan and the hiring of McCrimmon didn't hurt.

[sureWhyNot 19]

This team is not the same team as last year. Unfortunately it is quite a bit different then last years team.

And for everyone who keeps telling others to get a grip in response to complaints, I ask you to please open your eyes. I understand some complaining is both annoying and far fetched, but too argue that things aren't very, very downtrodden for this squad is asinine.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

One last gasp...

[hankzet40 233]

Come on boys, pot one for f*** sakes.

[Jedi 1,865]

PP, delay of game!

[Statts 4]

Alright

Im calling Homer out... he ties the game

[Doggy 130]

I sincerely hope we don't score here.

[J-Swift 0]

DAMNIT KRONWALL.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING ON THE BENCH? RESTING? WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP THAT 4TH GOAL!?!?!??!!

Kronwall was on the ice for the fourth goal.

[Heroes of Hockeytown 694]

Myeeeewwwwllll

[hankzet40 233]

MULE f*** YES

[ZETTERBERGPWN 2]

WOOOHOOO FRANZY!

[YoungGuns1340 1]

Do you have any clue that Maclean coached the defense last year?

McLellan coached the offense and the PP.

So you're telling me that as an assistant coach, he had no effect on the defense? Right. He was part of a great coaching staff that is no more. If it were so great, they would've gotten their horses running by now. Without doubt, McLellan had significant input in ALL aspects of the team last year. Theres a reaon no one was designated to be a defensive specialist. Whats telling is that when McLellan left, the Wings thought they SHOULD go out and get a defensive coach. That alone should tell you that McLellan had some effect on this teams defense.

But regardless of that, what needs to happen is a few roster changes. Shanny and Steve were great too, but they were a hindrance in their later years. There are some guys on this team that, despite the talent, are taking away from this team taking the next step this season. And I'm fan with that and all, because I'm not setting myself up to think that this team is going to repeat without changes.

[XxGoWingsxX 0]

MULE...TAKE THAT REFS