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#1 waitahochiminute

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 12:06 AM

What would it take to get both of these guys to sign? I know Hossa would have to a take huuuuge paycut in order to stay under the cap restrictions but what would that salary be? I would imagine Franzen would be taking a smaller salary as well...Just curious as to how small they would be. I have all the faith in Holland but is it all up to whether or not they would take a winning team discount?

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 08:58 AM

Keep Franzen and Hossa would consequently result in letting Jiri Hudler and Mikael Samuelsson go.

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Posted 25 February 2009 - 10:06 AM

It is gonna be tough to keep them both. It will either be long contracts with bonuses and lesser amounts per year, or Flip and Sammy have to go. I don't see them letting Hud go.
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Posted 26 February 2009 - 04:37 PM

I think that if hossa's heart really is with the wings we'll most likely keep hose and get rid of Franzen.

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Posted 02 March 2009 - 07:25 PM

Speaking of Hossa and Franzen, we are inching to the trade deadline and no recent word. Has anyone heard anything?

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Posted 03 March 2009 - 04:38 PM

QUOTE (Booster313 @ March 2, 2009 - 07:25PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Speaking of Hossa and Franzen, we are inching to the trade deadline and no recent word. Has anyone heard anything?



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Posted 03 March 2009 - 06:43 PM

QUOTE (dawings1905 @ March 3, 2009 - 04:38PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would answer you, if you removed that awful Pic from your profile. Those two with Wings Jersey's makes me sick. Everytime the dudes lips move 2 things happen. 1. Lies come out, and 2. The Stock Market TANKS!!!



Because you've heard something.


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Posted 04 March 2009 - 01:23 AM

One will leave, guaranteed. The Wings have 10 million next season to spend on 6 players, 5 forwards, 1 goalie. Let's say Hossa takes Zetterbergs deal, 6 million a season long term. You have 4 million left for 5 players, that's about more or less 1 million a player. How is that going to work? Even if you gave Franzen a modest discount of 2.5, you'd have to find 4 players who would take the bare minimum salary. In summary, that's why Flipulla has to go tongue.gif

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Posted 04 March 2009 - 06:29 PM

I would love to see Hossa stay. Really wouldn't mind if Franzen left, however.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (waitahochiminute @ February 24, 2009 - 01:06AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What would it take to get both of these guys to sign? I know Hossa would have to a take huuuuge paycut in order to stay under the cap restrictions but what would that salary be? I would imagine Franzen would be taking a smaller salary as well...Just curious as to how small they would be. I have all the faith in Holland but is it all up to whether or not they would take a winning team discount?

I can see Franzen doing the pay cut to stay on a team that has great chances to win however Hossa is going to be a rental player from now on. If he does not win with Detroit this year you will see him go to the highest bidder, which certainly will not be Detroit considering they have to try and keep Franzen and hopefully Ville Leino. I hope to God they do not let this young kid go, I think for sure he is a definite 2nd liner for the future.

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Posted 09 March 2009 - 10:36 PM

Don't sign with both. Sign only one and keep Leino and Huds. Trade Stuart and get a goalie.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (Winged_Wheeler @ February 25, 2009 - 09:58AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep Franzen and Hossa would consequently result in letting Jiri Hudler and Mikael Samuelsson go.

Yes, I absolutely agree Hossa would take up to much money we would loose Hudler and hudler could be just as valuble as Hossa a few years down the stretc sly.gif h

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Posted 15 March 2009 - 01:04 PM

QUOTE (Wingsallwin @ March 9, 2009 - 11:36PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't sign with both. Sign only one and keep Leino and Huds. Trade Stuart and get a goalie.

Yes Detroit needs a goalie bad but who

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Posted 16 March 2009 - 10:31 PM

I would say that the chances of us being able to sign both Hossa and Franzen are very, very low. With Franzen now setting a new career best for goals scored in a season (28), his price tag will probably be somewhere around a $4 million/yr cap hit, and we already know Hossa will command somewhere between $6-7 million/yr cap hit, even with a discount. Ken Holland is smart enough to know that if he signs both of these players, he's going to have to part ways with Samuelsson, Hudler, probably Leino, as well as either Kronwall or Stuart (if his NTC could be waived), and maybe even someone like Filppula. I just don't think it's worth it. Two goal scorers won't fill the void caused by losing several solid contributors.
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Posted 17 March 2009 - 01:45 PM

If we kept Hossa and Franzen I'd say the Wings would probably let Filps and Sammy go. Also have to know if the Cap is going to go up or down for next season. That is the biggest part of it.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 02:43 AM

It's going to be tough, but I have faith in Holland like always.

If both guys want to be one a winning team, they know what they have to do on this Wings roster.

But it also leaves guys some of our 3rd & 4th line guys out of trouble, and I'm going to miss them... but they all can't last.

I sure as hell wouldn't miss Samuelson though that's for sure. God I hope he's one of the guys that are gone next season. rolleyes.gif

He's a nice guy, good shooter, and for what we pay for him... it's nice. But that's just a personal perference of mine, heh.

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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:28 PM

The Wings would have to trade Stuart and Filppula to have the necessary cap space to be able to sign Hossa and Franzen. Unless they would prefer to let Hudler and Samuelsson leave as free agents instead of trading Filppula.
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Posted 18 March 2009 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE (TheOwl @ March 4, 2009 - 02:23AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One will leave, guaranteed. The Wings have 10 million next season to spend on 6 players, 5 forwards, 1 goalie. Let's say Hossa takes Zetterbergs deal, 6 million a season long term. You have 4 million left for 5 players, that's about more or less 1 million a player. How is that going to work? Even if you gave Franzen a modest discount of 2.5, you'd have to find 4 players who would take the bare minimum salary. In summary, that's why Flipulla has to go tongue.gif


Stuart is better to trade than Flip if possible. I'm sure you've seen one of my posts on the subject.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 07:37 PM

Trade Filps and Sammy during the Draft to get a higher pick, not that the Wings need anyone right away but get a higher pick and free up space than move Chelly because it sounds like he isn't going to retire Than trade Howard and keep Ozzie and Conks or don't resign Conks bring Howard up and move one more player to free up more space to keep Franzen and Hossa.

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Posted 29 March 2009 - 10:54 AM

QUOTE (Winged_Wheeler @ February 25, 2009 - 08:58AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Keep Franzen and Hossa would consequently result in letting Jiri Hudler and Mikael Samuelsson go.


hudler is not a big loss we can replace him with leino anyway. leino is a god he was mvp of the finish sm-liga he was setting scoring records for helsinki jokerit. samuelsson is good though i would not like to lose any swedes. leino will definitely become a superstr tho he is pure class. the problem with hossa is that we are paying 7 million a year to a guy who does not get a point per game- if u watch him close i think he is still a bit rusty because he is holding onto the puck a bit too long, his assist are down. franzen on the other hand is a bargain if we can get a 30 goals per year guy for about 2 million, i will take this if we must lose hossa. in the end i do not think it will be a problem because lidstrom wants to go play in sweden in a couple years so kevin can go to school there so that will free up much cap space for ericsson when he becomes a god
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