boomer 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 He is one of those guys that gets angry at Kenny for not making a trade just for the hell of it. Another smug booster knows it all , who can't accept another reality; we'll see won't we? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 It's not so much a matter of personnel other then coaching. Brad Mcrimmon is not doing well this year. New players aren't going to make a dramatic difference. Neil would have been nice, but it's not season breaking. We have proved throughout the year that we don't rely on anything to win games.(Other then not playing back-to-backs). I feel we are in good shape and with the leadership and experience on this team I'm confident they can get it done. And even if they don't. Then there is surely be moves in the off-season and rinse-repeat. It's not the end of the world. I'm happy enough being a fan of the Red Wings a team that year in year-year out is a Stanley Cup contender, and that's all I can ask for. Well I have to say you know how to put things in perspective I can see the merits in taking the long view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Another smug booster knows it all , who can't accept another reality; we'll see won't we? Another smug new member knows it all, who can't accept the reality we live in; you see how that works? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Another smug booster knows it all , who can't accept another reality; we'll see won't we? Instead of immature, insulting remarks, why don't you say who you wanted Detroit to trade for, who they would have given up, and where that player would have fit on this team?? Like OMG, dis wil b like SOOO fun heerin' another interwebs GM talk about how he would build the team LOLLLLLZZZZZ. If you're going to whine, at least present a somewhat valid take on the matter while whining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeverForgetMac25 483 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Honestly, I feel fine about it. I'm 100% sure the asking price for what Ken was looking to add was just too great, hence why he didn't make a deal for the first time in *6 years*. This team was set-up to challenge for the Cup before today and that hasn't changed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike 0 Report post Posted March 4, 2009 Another smug booster knows it all , who can't accept another reality; we'll see won't we? I'm not the booster, so don't reply to my comment calling me a booster. Also, I like how you completely ignored my post that put your argument to shame. Try backing up your argument with facts, not petty insults. Instead of immature, insulting remarks, why don't you say who you wanted Detroit to trade for, who they would have given up, and where that player would have fit on this team?? Like OMG, dis wil b like SOOO fun heerin' another interwebs GM talk about how he would build the team LOLLLLLZZZZZ. If you're going to whine, at least present a somewhat valid take on the matter while whining. Completely agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheHoff 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 I thought they'd pull some sort of deal for a defense man but I'm content with them not giving up any prospects or staying put with the current players for the play-off run. The Bert deal for Mathais(not sure about the spelling) was a bad one imo. The only problem I see is their consistancy night to night. Some nights they play so well and then the next game their play is horrible. Hopefully they can build some momentum and work hard like in the St Louis or Shark game and not like the effort in the Preds game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 Ken Holland interview just after the trade deadline. http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=35512 Pretty interesting interview for those who didn't see it. Good to see he was looking for a grit player after the loss of Drake, but in the end felt the team is strong enough as is which I agree with Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 5, 2009 I agree with you that's not my issue, I think highly of Hossa and I would like him here for a good spell. But what astounds me as we sit with a penalty killing unit that's ranked 21st in the league along with goaltending percentage ranked 26 in the league ; making moves is sacreligious to shore up a team, and that's not even touching the lack of toughness; as Lilja has gone down. I have no choice but to play Devils advocate here! What do you mean play devil's advocate? You've been whining about the defense even when Lilja wasn't injured. You pretty much suggested how useless almost every other defenseman is, totally ignoring the fact that this same defensive group the team has now won the cup for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 im somewhat disappointed. i think Holland could have rather easily acquired Chris Neil. thats the one player i really wanted to see come over and it didn't happen. As far as Flip being traded, im not heartbroken that he stayed here, but i wonder what that will mean when its time to sign the pending UFA's when the summer comes around... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 Ken Holland interview just after the trade deadline. http://www.nhl.tv/team/console.jsp?id=35512 Pretty interesting interview for those who didn't see it. Good to see he was looking for a grit player after the loss of Drake, but in the end felt the team is strong enough as is which I agree with very interesting... the Wings can win the Cup again if the Europeans on the team played the way they did during the last playoff run. but who's gonna take Drake's spot? Aaron Downey? Darren McCarty? i dont think so..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown_Ryan 122 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 There was no "Life or Death" type move needed. To stand pat is fine with me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 very interesting... the Wings can win the Cup again if the Europeans on the team played the way they did during the last playoff run. but who's gonna take Drake's spot? Aaron Downey? Darren McCarty? i dont think so..... Well let's hope the collective experience + Hossa can out do a hearty grinder at the end of his career. It's going to be a good playoff run either way Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted March 5, 2009 im somewhat disappointed. i think Holland could have rather easily acquired Chris Neil. thats the one player i really wanted to see come over and it didn't happen. As far as Flip being traded, im not heartbroken that he stayed here, but i wonder what that will mean when its time to sign the pending UFA's when the summer comes around... It'll also mean he can be traded between seasons, I think starting July. Forget the exact date and too lazy to look it up. At least give the guy a chance to f*** up with his new contract before ridding of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 Not happy. But not disappointed, this team can win the Cup, they can play playoff hockey, they need to prove to the world that they can do it themselves, no one to push them, the iniative(sp) is probably winning it for Hossa, so lets go do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KronwallCRUNCH 5 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 If we would have come into the season with last year's roster, and added Hossa at the deadline, people would have been jumping for joy. The thrill of the deadline will soon be gone, but the Wings will remain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Majsheppard 203 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 We won last year, and Hossa is better then anyone aquired period. So what is the problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 Given with what we did over the summer, I'm fine with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
whitneydatsyukrox 0 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 Very happy with it. Our regular lineup is incredible, and to top it all off we have many NHL-ready players in GR. We're so lucky! And I'm apparently very slow because I had no idea until now that the Wings are now in 1st place in the league. Yeah, there are still differences in games in hand all that (although Boston and SJ are on 2 game losing streaks... due for an extended slump). But it seems like just yesterday that we were forever looking up at the Sharks' and eventually Boston's record. This team can do it again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grim 5 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) I was hoping for more help on D. judging by the ridiculous amount it took to land Derek Morris... I am very glad Kenny didn't pull the trigger on that type of trade. Edited March 5, 2009 by Grim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Superman54 91 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 As its been said, Hossa was our Trade Deadline acquisition. I'm not disappointed considering I expected very little action from Kenny. The team just needs to regroup defensively, and the past 2 games they seem to be going in the right direction. It would have been nice to aquire a player like Neil, but because I don't know what the asking price was for him, I won't question Hollands decision. The team is clearly talented enough to win the cup, lets just see whether they have any hunger for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokike 1 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) calling to KH to make "4th liner for fists" was already dead plan. Why? Put yourself to some other GMs position....What he should to do with received "4th liner from RW"? In short term he might have been helpful but in longterm he would have been for rebuilding team totally useless. Reality is that rebuilding team asks picks, prospects or salary cap relief for their players and for KH it was too much. I'm sure that here are some who can explain better how bargaining works but deals are not based on "what is the honest price for "grit" but "how much you are willing to pay ? How desperate is your situation in selling or buying?" for sellers there was no reason to lower their prices b/c most of them were not selling desperately anyway. Edited March 5, 2009 by hokike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 A lot of main cogs from last year's Cup winner are still here, plus Hossa. The roster in itself is fine. Just need to play more consistently at times (and that can be said for pretty much any team at time). If they can do that, the chances of winning the Cup again are good. Hence, not disappointed the Wings didn't do anything. I don't need a trade to happen just for the sake of it happening or to be "exciting". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManLuv4Clears 7 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 (edited) As with most posters, I'm still happy with this team. They are a skilled, exciting, winning team. However, in my personal opinion there is one intangible that must occur for the team to win the cup, and that is hunger. You can have all the skill in the world, but if you don't have the drive to win it means nothing. The team has shown hunger at times and been lethargic at others. Drake brought this to the table last year and the team rallied around it; will Hossa be able to do the same with a slight SC hang over? We shall see, I have confidence that they can. edit: grammer Edited March 5, 2009 by ManLuv4Clears Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Secret 304 Report post Posted March 5, 2009 I think we have everything we need already on the team to get us to the finals again. A piece like Neil or Roberts to be added for depth and grit would have been cool too but so long as out current roster can evelvate to play off level as they have in the past I think we have everything we need to bring home the gold again. This off season will provide us with some roster changes whether we like it or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
