Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 Ozzie! Ozzie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Electrophile 3,554 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 Congrats, Ozzie. What a monumental accomplishment. THIS IS A HATER-FREE THREAD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carman 387 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 Congrats Ozzie, let's pad the playoff stats this year too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Third Man In 2,091 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 THIS IS A HATER-FREE THREAD. Seriously. If people can't bring themselves to congratulate Ozzie on his accomplishment and are considering taking the occasion of his 300th victory to dump on him, please just stay out of this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hokeychik22 17 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 gotta give props to da Oz. Congrats on 300 wins. He didn't too bad this game!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
puckloo39 5,686 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 I couldn't be happier for Oz. He won it in a convincing fashion, besides. This achievement had to make him feel very good. :beerbuddy: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 If Osgood has a couple good seasons after this one and wins a Cup or two as starter with the Wings before retirement, it's entirely possible that, at least statistically, he will be considered the best goalie as far as play within the franchise. Remarkably Osgood may be seen as the steadier of the two, but short of three-peating the Vezina and picking up a Conn Smythe or two on the way to more springtime silver there is no way Osgood touches what Sawchuk did from '51 to '55. And without coming close to those years, no collection of numbers will put him ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 Today is all about Chris Osgood! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PenaltyShot 96 521 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 Props for Ozzie! What a great win today, and great career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrazyGangsta 79 Report post Posted March 14, 2009 If Osgood wins 1 more cup he will officially have 1 more cup then Sawchuck and nearly as much as wins. I mean Osgood has 2 more seasons with Wings. If he could get 25-30 wins next 2 seasons he could beat Sawchuck wins by a Wings goalie. I say he will pass Sawchuck with cups and with wins. My favorite goalie is Hasek, but Osgood is right in there and if he wins one more cup he will probably pass Hasek soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 Remarkably Osgood may be seen as the steadier of the two, but short of three-peating the Vezina and picking up a Conn Smythe or two on the way to more springtime silver there is no way Osgood touches what Sawchuk did from '51 to '55. And without coming close to those years, no collection of numbers will put him ahead. "there is no way Osgood touches what Sawchuk did from '51 to '55." Osgood is constantly downplayed in comparison to Sawchuk, despite having strong stats. So what exactly makes Fedorov not good enough to get his number retired again, since several of Sawchuk's teammates who Fedorov outplayed did? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingfaninCO 43 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 I'm happy for Osgood. He's one of those "good guys" that you want to see succeed. He's got to feel good this morning, and I hope it carries over into more games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taosuntzu 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 Wow, I never realised that Barry Melrose had so many alts on this forum. Melrose's character assassination is absolutely astounding. /adrian_monk OK! Here's what really happened. After the parade, the DRW's were left with a large cap space. To fill this cap space they picked up 2 free agents. They added Hossa and Conklin, both from Pittsburgh, a team that uses speed to break out of their own zone and produce break-aways. Hossa became the highest paid per year player on the team. Players like Crosby, Ovechkin, and Hossa all play a system where instead of preventing the pass between defense-men, they look for the break out feed. To play in the Red Wings system they need a great set-up man; ie: Malkin, Backstrom, or unfortunately in our case Datsyuk. What does all this have to do with defense? During a game Hossa will stand in between the defense and move toward the puck side. In the event of a turn-over, Hossa drives to the opponents net. This starts a chain of events that resembles a pick six in football. The closer of the two defense-men will move between the puck and Hossa, while the other defense-men gets between the net and Hossa. This was never a problem in years past and throws our D into a state of panic. They all go for the puck and don't watch their man. The other play that has manifested is the LWL. In years past the Wings have played it flawlessly, to the point that the name is no longer appropriate. If the puck comes down the center both forward and center collapse on the puck carrier. The left board, the right side D'man moves to the center, the closest player to the right wing picks up the chase. Both Dats and Zetters do this so well that there might as well be 4 D'men back, Hossa not so much (despite Mickey Redmen's accolades) he certainly tries, but Zetts and Dats both pick off the pass and in unison rush back up ice. /Scotty_Bowman There is no real perfect solution for the problem. The best I can think of is to play 2nd and 3rd lines against the opponents 1st line, and continue to switch Zetts and Hossa through out the game to keep the other team guessing as to what each line will do. Have your D'men look for opponents moving off the boards and bounce pass the puck off the boards to spring a break that will get their D'men to pinch more allowing a few more odd man rushes per game. This still does not help shore up the defense or block shots but gives you a better chance to win a shooting gallery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 :beerbuddy: to Osgood! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 Congrats to Ozzie. Lets hope he continues to get back to where he was and hits all those other milestones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sixer 37 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 Great work Ozzie, stay focused and determined and we shall win another! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
norrisnick 1 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 "there is no way Osgood touches what Sawchuk did from '51 to '55." Osgood is constantly downplayed in comparison to Sawchuk, despite having strong stats. So what exactly makes Fedorov not good enough to get his number retired again, since several of Sawchuk's teammates who Fedorov outplayed did? Nothing. You're barking up the wrong tree, sparky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 You can't compare Osgood to Sawchuk. Literally two completely different era's of goaltending, different technique, different teams they played for, different gear.... everything. You can't compare Brodeur to Parent, Luongo to Dryden or Roy to Esposito. Th way Grant Fuhr played is already a stretch from 'modern' goaltenders nowadays. And that's just a 20 year difference. Let alone comparing goaltenders with a 40 / 50 / 60 year difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 You can't compare Osgood to Sawchuk. Literally two completely different era's of goaltending, different technique, different teams they played for, different gear.... everything. You can't compare Brodeur to Parent, Luongo to Dryden or Roy to Esposito. Th way Grant Fuhr played is already a stretch from 'modern' goaltenders nowadays. And that's just a 20 year difference. Let alone comparing goaltenders with a 40 / 50 / 60 year difference. Which is why I never said Osgood's stats would make him the best goalie that the team has ever had; just that he could potentially become the best goalie statistically that the team has ever had. COMPLETELY different statement, don't you think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b.shanafan14 733 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Congrats to the great and powerful OZ! Two great games, now tied with Vernon for most career wins, 11th all-time. Gaining confidence at the right time, keep it up Ozzy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Four more wins and he is top ten all-time, tied at 389 with Hasek. Detroit has 12 games left...think he does it this year? He should. If he plays the majority of remaining games, and wins most or all of his games, he could hit 30 wins. He should clear 390 wins this year, and maybe get close to 395. Next year, he could reach as high as maybe sixth or seventh on the all-time list depending on what the goaltending tandem looks like-meaning how many games does he play and how well do and his backup perform? Definitely the most underrated goalie of my lifetime, with apologies to Andy Moog, who was, IMHO, the best goaltender to play any significant number of games for the Edmonton Oilers in the NHL since they joined the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Louisville 112 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 OZZZIE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Which is why I never said Osgood's stats would make him the best goalie that the team has ever had; just that he could potentially become the best goalie statistically that the team has ever had. COMPLETELY different statement, don't you think? Yes it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spinner 6 Report post Posted March 16, 2009 Congrats Ozzie!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
