Elshupacabra 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 (edited) Stupid Meech and his stupid waivers. Edited March 9, 2009 by Elshupacabra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DyingAlive 27 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I know everyone loves Downey and I love him as well. But I think we need to be thankful that Holmstrom is back. That is great news! Downey played well good for him, but it's time to get someone back in front of the net Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChelisChick 174 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I'll miss Aaron in the lineup. I'm hoping when playoffs start, we might see him a little bit. Glad to have Homer back definetely! Just bummed about Downey because of the energy he brings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ms_Hockey 0 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 It's a shame to see Downey have to go... but Homer > Downey. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Actually, he was a factor in the first goal scored by CBJs the other night. Haha he'd been on the ice like 2 seconds when they scored. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zata fan 40 6 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Glad Homer is back...Hopefully Hossa is back soon as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Marian "stiff neck" Hossa Get better soon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I don't know how long exactly he was on the ice before they scored that goal, but I remember seeing his jersey out there for longer than 2 seconds, and he was out of position. Don't underplay his responsibility. If he can't regroup and get in proper position, then he doesn't belong in the NHL. I am certainly glad that Holmer is coming back. So going to clear the puck on the right hand boards when you're a RW is moving out of position? Im sure. Try again. Downey has never been the reason the wings have conceeded a goal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drake_Marcus 890 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Meech needs to be dumped like a bad girlfriend. But doing so would only really give you room for someone as cheap as Downey. Ericsson and Leino each make almost twice as much as Meech. The Wings are going to keep him for the season because depth can only help in the playoffs. All that being said, I do hate that Downey has to go down. He played his best hockey he's ever played in a Wings uniform over the last 3 games. At times he was the most energetic player on the team and gritty, hard working guys like him are the kind of players the Wings despirately need on the team in times when everything seems to be falling apart. Regardless, the choice has been made and maybe having the familiar face of Holmstrom around will help get the Wings back into the habit of playing Red Wings hockey and not this bulls*** defensive play that'd make Leaf fans feel ashamed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I don't know how long exactly he was on the ice before they scored that goal, but I remember seeing his jersey out there for longer than 2 seconds, and he was out of position. Don't underplay his responsibility. If he can't regroup and get in proper position, then he doesn't belong in the NHL. I am certainly glad that Holmer is coming back. So what about all the other goals? Should we get rid of those players who were "out of position" too or just Downey? I mean do they belong in the NHL if they can't keep their positions as well? At least Downey evened up his apparent lack of positioning with a goal. What did all those other guys do? esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 That's kind of dumb. That's like saying if Downey is sooo good then why does he get so little ice time over a player... like Datsyuk for example? Who didn't score a goal in that game. Maybe you know something Babcock doesn't know... Just as dumb as singling out one player in an 8-2 loss, especially one of the only ones who scored for us. I know lots Babcock doesn't know... esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Actually, he was a factor in the first goal scored by CBJs the other night. Downey is a non-factor on this team. He shouldn't have played over players like Helm or Leino. Until last week the same could easily be said for Kopecky, but alas he's an up-and-coming power forward now who earned his spot through various intangible contributions that are unknown to the rest of us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Obviously not about hockey. I wasn't singling out one player. I responded to another poster who claims Downey was "never" a result of a goal. I proved he was... that's the context of the conversation. With that said, (as I already said) Downey isn't a player that should play over Helm or Leino. How does that translate to me not knowing about hockey Mr. Smarty Pants? I mean, since you're so concerned with "context". esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Actually, he was a factor in the first goal scored by CBJs the other night. Downey is a non-factor on this team. He shouldn't have played over players like Helm or Leino. Let me guess, you're not anti-enforcer either, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GROwl 5 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 Yes, but Meech would have to clear waivers. You are all forgetting that Downey also has to clear waivers...and he has several times this year without getting picked up. No bites at all. The difference between him and Meech/Kopecky is that Meech and Kopecky would be most likely be heading to another NHL city rather than GR. At least Downey is still in the organization for a call-up another day.l Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I wasn't singling out one player. I responded to another poster who claims Downey was "never" a result of a goal. I proved he was... that's the context of the conversation. I'd just drop the arguement, trust me it is not worth it. Nothing you say will matter or change opinions on the subject and whatever you say will just get twisted on you and all of the sudden you will be anti-enforcer, soft, and know nothing about hockey. Trust me, it's better to just let it go and move on to a new thread. :battle: :starwars2: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 That is the funny thing about Downey, as much as some poeple consider him a liability, he's never actually done anything in 60 games over 2 seasons to justify this feeling about him. I can't remember one instance where a stupid play by Downey cost this team even a single goal. Obviously not about hockey. I wasn't singling out one player. I responded to another poster who claims Downey was "never" a result of a goal. I proved he was... that's the context of the conversation. With that said, (as I already said) Downey isn't a player that should play over Helm or Leino. I didn't claim anything of the sort. Regardless Downey was not directly responsible for the goal in the clip you posted either, you proved nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 I'd just drop the arguement, trust me it is not worth it. Nothing you say will matter or change opinions on the subject and whatever you say will just get twisted on you and all of the sudden you will be anti-enforcer, soft, and know nothing about hockey. Trust me, it's better to just let it go and move on to a new thread. :battle: :starwars2: ^ This. I like Downey and wished somehow he could stay up given the current roster/salary cap/situation but it isn't possible. It is slim/none that he would be claimed off waivers, and a much better chance that somebody like Meech or Kopecky will, no matter how much people in here might piss and moan about them. The organization isn't willing to take that chance, so be it. It is so fricken annoying to see posts where plenty of people understand the use of an enforcer or physical play or fighting or whatever, but realize it has it's place and might value things a bit more than enforcing, and get falsely labeled as this anti-bulls**t or that these people want the team to be soft or whatever else, like it is an all or nothing proposition. I do not understand why every single time it has to go to these all or nothing extremes. It is incredibly stupid and some of the enforcer slappies need to get off their soapboxes regarding this. And spare me response like "Well heaven forbid we question Ken Holland" or "You must hate physical play". Save it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 That sucks. Downey was earning his spot, but that's the problem with contracts. At least Homer is back, hopefully he replaces a bit of the physical play because no one else will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Question is who stakes better... Homer or Downey? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjlegend 155 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Question is who stakes better... Homer or Downey? I've never seen either of them stake, but Holmstrom skates slightly better and is better with his stick. Neither of them are going to win a breakaway competition against my grandmother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uk_redwing 495 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Question is who stakes better... Homer or Downey? Question is... Who has the better tip-in/screening skills? Homer or Downey? Clearly Downey. We all saw his goal the other night! Downey for 1st line! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 Question is... Who has the better tip-in/screening skills? Homer or Downey? Clearly Downey. We all saw his goal the other night! Downey for 1st line! Bravo! esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sureWhyNot 19 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Actually, he was a factor in the first goal scored by CBJs the other night. Downey is a non-factor on this team. He shouldn't have played over players like Helm or Leino. I can honestly say you are the first person whose comments online, in any form and on any website/forum/platform/etc have made me throw up in my mouth just a little. I don't know if it's your tone, or just your blinding ignorance towards hockey and this team in general. Whatever it is makes me sick. Anyone who is trying to seriously debate whether Homer or Downey should be in the lineup, well, they are an idiot as well. Of course the answer is Homer. However there is a few other guys whose spot Downey should have and deserves. That said, looking at the lineup we will be going with it shouldn't be more then a couple games until someone gets hurt - thus freeing up another spot. So we might see Downey again this season -- but who knows. Edited March 10, 2009 by sureWhyNot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dabura 12,232 Report post Posted March 10, 2009 I like Downey and wished somehow he could stay up given the current roster/salary cap/situation but it isn't possible. It is slim/none that he would be claimed off waivers, and a much better chance that somebody like Meech or Kopecky will, no matter how much people in here might piss and moan about them. The organization isn't willing to take that chance, so be it. It is so fricken annoying to see posts where plenty of people understand the use of an enforcer or physical play or fighting or whatever, but realize it has it's place and might value things a bit more than enforcing, and get falsely labeled as this anti-bulls**t or that these people want the team to be soft or whatever else, like it is an all or nothing proposition. I do not understand why every single time it has to go to these all or nothing extremes. It is incredibly stupid and some of the enforcer slappies need to get off their soapboxes regarding this. And spare me response like "Well heaven forbid we question Ken Holland" or "You must hate physical play". Save it Downey only played a few games this season (and last season) for a reason... think about it. Whoa there, fellas! You're using logic and reason! Careful now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
