3/29 GDT: Predators 4 at Red Wings 3

[wmubronco420 25]

McCollum in the playoffs? lets not get crazy here

[Z and D for the C 712]

Keep insulting me. You have absolutely no idea why I'm a fan, how I root for the team, why I root for the team, why I continue to root for the team even though I live miles from Detroit......but you keep running your pie hole like you do. By all means, keep the insults coming.

I haven't insulted you. There is nothing wrong with being a casual fan.

[KrazyGangsta 79]

Sarcasm.

Right?

Big Time lol.

[steveyzerman 0]

McCollum in the playoffs? lets not get crazy here

I guess I'm just not really expecting much.

Last year, it felt like the year all year. This year, it feels terrible all year.

I think it's just something us hockey fans can sense. Maybe I'm crazy. f*** it. Low expectations are easy to meet.

Go Wings.

[Yzermania 156]

I hate to say this because I really don't wanna see him go, but as I was watching this game today I was thinkin' (As I believe I've seen mentioned here numerous times) that we should let the hoss walk, sign the mule for a decent price and go after a good goalie for like 5 million a year or so. I'm not exactly sure what will be out there but I really think it is going to be necessary after this season. I know I have see people mention luongo and I think they said he is under contract till the next season...does he have a NTC though? I can't recall if I have seen that or not. Anyhow, it was painful watching that loss today, no reason we should of let it slip away, the third goal Ozzy let in pretty much made me lose all hope that he can be our starter in the playoffs. I think we need to let conklin start somewhere between 3-5 out of the last 6 to make sure he is ready in case he ends up being the go to guy.

[Red Crazy 201]

As much as this pains me to say I think after this season that the Wings need to do something about goaltending and forget about signing Hossa. Sign Hossa and your looking at Osgood/Howard sharing the duties. I love Hossa but Franzen and a goalie might be better for the long run.

[KrazyGangsta 79]

Did Ozzie steal a game this year?

[Wingsallwin 0]

I did not watch the game because I went to outside to enjoy a warm day. However, I was just at the restaurant and the score was 2-1 when it was the 2nd intermission and I was pretty sure we would win this game.

Nevertheless, the result was atrocious. I may have to go to watch the highlights right now but Osgood is just unacceptable this season. 22/26.. what is this? If goalies cannot stand in their head in the playoff, the team will be out very quickly. How the hell Osbad will perform good in the playoff?

We do not have offenses problem and we do some on defenses but Osbad is just way worse than defenses right now. I am sick of hearing people say it is defense, not Osgood. Then, how the hell Conklin's save percentage is higher than Osgood while you guys say Osgood is far better than Conklin?

We allowed only 26 shots, only 26. Is it a problem then now? I know we make some unacceptable turnovers but why is there goalie? Isn't it because goalies are there to stop some mistakes by defenses? Then, if goalies cannot stop the puck, why is there goalie?

I told this before. This is not Osgood's season but Osgood lovers do not realize it. They do not care what happens to the Wings; they only care about whether Osgood starts or not regarldess of the fact he screws up the game or not.

We have given Osgood all chances to bounce back but he did not. Now, if goalies cannot improve during more than 5 months, what is this then? He is just sucks and OSBAD. It does not matter what loyalty we provide to players. If players are playing bad, they have to be blamed. But Osgood lovers are just like "he will be fine".. hello..?

I just do not get it. What's wrong with him? Did he forget how to play hockey during the summer? His playing level is my team's goalie's level, never can stop any puck.

[steveyzerman 0]

I did not watch the game because I went to outside to enjoy a warm day. However, I was just at the restaurant and the score was 2-1 when it was the 2nd intermission and I was pretty sure we would win this game.

Nevertheless, the result was atrocious. I may have to go to watch the highlights right now but Osgood is just unacceptable this season. 22/26.. what is this? If goalies cannot stand in their head in the playoff, the team will be out very quickly. How the hell Osbad will perform good in the playoff?

We do not have offenses problem and we do some on defenses but Osbad is just way worse than defenses right now. I am sick of hearing people say it is defense, not Osgood. Then, how the hell Conklin's save percentage is higher than Osgood while you guys say Osgood is far better than Conklin?

We allowed only 26 shots, only 26. Is it a problem then now? I know we make some unacceptable turnovers but why is there goalie? Isn't it because goalies are there to stop some mistakes by defenses? Then, if goalies cannot stop the puck, why is there goalie?

I told this before. This is not Osgood's season but Osgood lovers do not realize it. They do not care what happens to the Wings; they only care about whether Osgood starts or not regarldess of the fact he screws up the game or not.

We have given Osgood all chances to bounce back but he did not. Now, if goalies cannot improve during more than 5 months, what is this then? He is just sucks and OSBAD. It does not matter what loyalty we provide to players. If players are playing bad, they have to be blamed. But Osgood lovers are just like "he will be fine".. hello..?

I just do not get it. What's wrong with him? Did he forget how to play hockey during the summer? His playing level is my team's goalie's level, never can stop any puck.

... Excuse me?

[Wingsallwin 0]

Did Ozzie steal a game this year?

Nope, but Osbad lovers will say some games: against the Wild, against the Ducks (one good save at the end), and two shut outs I think?

[Vladifan 680]

Even Nick Lidstrom at 50% is a pretty good defenseman. The red wings at 50% is still a DAMN good team, better than the islanders. Lets play a game, in your mind, put osgood in net for the islanders and put mcdonald in net for us when we played them. Do you think that game would still be a 2-0 loss for us?

The point I'm making is this..like someone else mentioned earlier you shouldn't be a goalie in the NHL if you need your team to play perfect every night. Osgood expects his team to bail him out all the times he f***s up, and they have a lot, and they haven't a lot. but osgood never bails his team out when they f*** up. Conklin has.

NO one, NOwhere has ever said the team has to play perfect for Ozzie. And when you resort to those kinds of absolutes you've already lost the argument. That is part of this black and white Ozzie Sucks s*** that is absolutely unbelievable. And why are you ignoring his great saves in the first two periods when the TEAM was still playing like a team? Yeah, he most definiitely let in two weak goals but then he shouldn't have to play perfect for them either when they screw up. Which they did.

Meanwhile, it sounds like you're predicting right here and now that Conklin -when he comes in - and he will come in - is gonna save the day for the Wings? And it follows from your logic that the team won't have to play "perfect" for him, i.e., just play the way they've been playing? My point remains that because of the inconsistency of BOTH goaltenders, if the team doesn't pick it up as a whole chances are, we're byebye. I wish Conklin all the luck, skill and timing in the world. I honestly wish him well. Because whoever is in net, that's what I do.

[Broken 16 381]

I just do not get it. What's wrong with him? Did he forget how to play hockey during the summer? His playing level is my team's goalie's level, never can stop any puck.

It's fairly simple. He's complacent. He shows zero drive and zero passion. Granted, he's never been the most openly passionate person to start with, but he acts as if he has nothing to prove. That does not bode well for the team as a whole. It doesn't help matters that he can log on to this site and read a slew of posts propping him up and talking about past glory as if it has any bearing on the current season.

All this talk about how Osgood is a starter and Conklin is a career back-up. What a joke. Osgood has always been better as a back-up (last season, anyone? Hellooooo).

[shutoutking 0]

OK, survey says.

After the playoffs last year, and this year's season series, are any of you Wings fans closer to considering the Predators a rival? Not like the Avs, certainly, but still, what say you?

Hope y'all whoop the Wild's ass.

Edited March 30, 2009 by shutoutking

[Vladifan 680]

You're like one of them females who support a team just because they are obsessed with a certain player because of his looks...

With this statement, I give up on you. Either you can't read, or you just want to make stupid, sad little points. You're on your own, little man.

[Broken 16 381]

OK, survey says.

After the playoffs last year, and this year's season series, are any of you Wings fans closer to considering the Predators a rival? Not like the Avs, certainly, but still, what say you?

My hope is that Chicago catches Calgary and we catch Columbus, setting up Preds-Hawks and Blues-Wings, or BJs-Wings...man. Good times.

Hope y'all whoop the Wild's ass.

No. Your team isn't a rival until you knock us out of the playoffs. This could be your year...

[clutchngrab 12]

He's been playing bad all season, and the success of this team long-term and this season depend solely on him. If Osgood fails, we'll need a goalie for next year, and probably can't afford Hossa, not that he would even stay with a team with Osgood as #1. The goalie is the only position that controls the success of a team. Bad goalie, bad team, out in first round. It's the most important position, and we have the worst guy in the league. The team can afford to have a few guys with a bad game. But when Osgood has had dozens of bad games this season, he sucks. Period.

All we need is a middle of the road goaltender - preferably big, strong at grabbing loose pucks in front of the net. Conklin may or may not be that guy, but is painfully obvious for some time now that Osgood is not that guy and for all intents and purposes is done. Can you imagine this guys record on any other team? I'd rather have Manny Legace with a hangover or Tim Chevaldier on ludes right about now.

[sixer 37]

Osgood should be benched forever. His days are done. Finally nice to see others realizing the same. Unless Conklin gets injured, I'd like to see him start every game moving forward.

If management goes with Ozzie in the playoffs, we'll be out first round.

It's demoralizing to the team when they work hard for a couple goals and have Osgood unable to close it out for them or even give them a chance from the beginning.

[clutchngrab 12]

OK, survey says.

After the playoffs last year, and this year's season series, are any of you Wings fans closer to considering the Predators a rival? Not like the Avs, certainly, but still, what say you?

Hope y'all whoop the Wild's ass.

Ah Survey says...no.

[Broken 16 381]

All we need is a middle of the road goaltender - preferably big, strong at grabbing loose pucks in front of the net. Conklin may or may not be that guy, but is painfully obvious for some time now that Osgood is not that guy and for all intents and purposes is done. Can you imagine this guys record on any other team? I'd rather have Manny Legace with a hangover or Tim Chevaldier on ludes right about now.

I'll take Bob Essensa with throw pillows tied to his legs and a baseball mit.

Edited March 30, 2009 by Broken 16

[Vladifan 680]

Well, dudette, you seem cool enough, but if you ignore everybody that disagrees with you on Osgood, there's no point in coming to an open discussion board. You could just as easily start a private chat room with only like-minded people.

I can only speak for myself on this one. But the ones I'm putting on Ignore only talk about Ozzie and how he sucks. Oh yeah. There's one other one that's a just totally Mr. Negative. But I know I can still learn stuff from any posters who aren't just totally obsessed with Ozzie's play. That indeed, is its own form of insanity. And I'm just old enough to never, ever put up with that kind of s*** again.

[Red Crazy 201]

I'll take Bob Essensa with throw pillows tied to his legs and a baseball mit.

LOL What he ^said.

[Hockeytown_Ryan 122]

NO one, NOwhere has ever said the team has to play perfect for Ozzie. And when you resort to those kinds of absolutes you've already lost the argument. That is part of this black and white Ozzie Sucks s*** that is absolutely unbelievable. And why are you ignoring his great saves in the first two periods when the TEAM was still playing like a team? Yeah, he most definiitely let in two weak goals but then he shouldn't have to play perfect for them either when they screw up. Which they did.

Meanwhile, it sounds like you're predicting right here and now that Conklin -when he comes in - and he will come in - is gonna save the day for the Wings? And it follows from your logic that the team won't have to play "perfect" for him, i.e., just play the way they've been playing? My point remains that because of the inconsistency of BOTH goaltenders, if the team doesn't pick it up as a whole chances are, we're byebye. I wish Conklin all the luck, skill and timing in the world. I honestly wish him well. Because whoever is in net, that's what I do.

Noone is asking him to be perfect......He's Human... But for Crying out loud Be reliable

One or two soft goals Changes a Game........(duh?) a series,not to mention it changes the attitude of a team as a whole.

Edited March 30, 2009 by Hockeytown_Ryan

[Vladifan 680]

At this point in the season, with osgood no better than he was at the start, and given the things I said in my previous post previous post, HOW IS IT UNREALISTIC?

Here's where I am. I have honestly lumped all you Ozzie Sucks posters in together. So, to differentiate - if you believe Ozzie is the main problem with this team....If you believe Conklin will save the day....if you believe the team is playing well enough to get through the playoffs if there's a goalie change, well I think chances are you are being unrealistic. It is simply not that simple. I would like nothing better to be proven wrong by Conklin. In fact, I will live for that moment. (BECAUSE I WILL SUPPORT WHATEVER GOALIE IS IN NET. I'M A FAN. NOT A ******* OWNER OR COACH??!!) And I will come on this board and acknowledge his talent if he pulls it off. And how about you? If Ozzie ends up saving the day for our Wings, will you do the same? I sincerely, fervently doubt it.

[syntax 359]

I'll take Bob Essensa with throw pillows tied to his legs and a baseball mit.

Kelly Hrudey flopping around on the ice in the crease?

[steveyzerman 0]

OK, survey says.

After the playoffs last year, and this year's season series, are any of you Wings fans closer to considering the Predators a rival? Not like the Avs, certainly, but still, what say you?

Hope y'all whoop the Wild's ass.

Haha. No. I'm leaning more towards Columbus as a rival.

Edited March 30, 2009 by steveyzerman