BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Yes, I realize that not all these teams have a player "valuable" enough to lead them to success, for these such teams we will just say best player. Oh, and just to save a bit of commotion. Mine looks like this (League MVP in bold, runner ups in italics)... Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Chara Buffalo - Vanek Calgary - Iginla Carolina - Ward Chicago - Toews Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Nash Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Hemsky Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Kopitar Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Lundqvist Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - Backes Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Ponikarovsky Vancouver - Mitchell Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I haven't watched enough teams to really say, and the only thing I'd be using in those cases would be Yahoo/NHL.com stats which would be a rather piss poor way of judging anything, so I'll just do the team's I've watched at very least a handful of games of this season: Anaheim - Jonas Hiller / Bobby Ryan (Hiller has been team MVP-like in goaltending, Ryan has been a consistent presence) Atlanta - Ilya Kovalchuk (easy choice, he was made captain for a reason) Boston - This one's tough, but I'll go with Tim Thomas (could have went with Marc Savard [<- who always gets little attention] or David Krejci) Buffalo - N/A Calgary - Jarome Iginla Carolina - N/A Chicago - Marty Havlat Colorado - Paul Stastny Columbus - Steve Mason Dallas - N/A Detroit - Pavel Datsyuk Edmonton - Ales Hemsky (been all over the place all season) Florida - Tomas Vokoun Los Angelas - Jon Quick (more useful goaltending than Anze's points) Minnesota - Niklas Backstrom Montreal - N/A Nashville - Pekka Rinne New Jersey - Zach Parise (Brodeur injured otherwise would be his) NY Islanders - N/A NY Rangers - N/A Ottawa - N/A Philadelphia - Mike Richards (not sure if he's leading in points but he's been the captain and certainly productive) Phoenix - N/A Pittsburgh - Evgeni Malkin (an easy Hart candidate) San Jose - Joe Thornton (not exactly a stellar Joe Thornton year but the Sharks are a good overall team) St. Louis - David Backes Tampa Bay - N/A Toronto - N/A Vancouver - Daniel/Henrik Sedin (both of 'em) Washington - Alex Ovechkin (likely wins Hart with yet another goal scoring barrage and leading by example of how to get it done) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyerberger 279 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Pardon me if I make some controversial picks. Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Chara Buffalo - Vanek Calgary - Regehr (their record without him in the lineup is horrid) Carolina - Ward Chicago - Toews Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Nash Dallas - Ribiero (He's been a model of consistency for them) Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Roloson Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Kopitarr Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Rinne New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Avery (as much as I hate to say it. He just.. does something for that team, and whatever it is, it works.) Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Gonchar (flame away; his presence has been the difference maker for this team) San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - Berglund/Oshie Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - CBC Vancouver - Mitchell (and all 80" of his stick XD) Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ComradeWasabi 109 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Chara Buffalo - Vanek Calgary - Iginla Carolina - Ward Chicago - Toews Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Nash Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Hemsky Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Kopitar Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Lundqvist Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - Backes Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Ponikarovsky Vancouver - Mitchell Washington - Ovechkin The only one I could possibly disagree with is Mitchell in Vancouver. I haven't paid much attention to them this season but he could be possibly overshadowed by the Sedin twins or by Luongo/Ohlund. I literally agree with every single other name on that list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anomalously 0 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) The only one I could possibly disagree with is Mitchell in Vancouver. I haven't paid much attention to them this season but he could be possibly overshadowed by the Sedin twins or by Luongo/Ohlund. I literally agree with every single other name on that list. Nash more instrumental than Mason? The team is 8-11-3 (.886 ppg) without him, 32-18-6 (1.25 ppg) with him. A third of the guy's wins have been in shutouts. Hey, a point-per-game is a point-per game, Nash is a great player... but they're a different team with Mason between the pipes. They were going to play for a top-5 pick until this guy took the top job. (Nitpicky to just throw one name out there, yes, but I'm just saying that there's plenty of possibility for disagreement is all.) If I get time, I'll try to compile a list, but there's only a couple I see as set in stone: Getzlaf in Anaheim, Bouwmeester in Florida, Backstrom in Minnesota, Streit on the Island, Malkin in Pittsburgh, Ovechkin in Washington... Edited April 5, 2009 by Anomalously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Savard Buffalo - Miller Calgary - Kiprusoff Carolina - Ward Chicago - Keith Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Mason Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Souray Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Frolov Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Avery Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Carter Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Marleau St. Louis - Boyle Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Blake Vancouver - D.Sedin Washington - Ovechkin Edited April 5, 2009 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 (edited) Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Thomas Buffalo - Miller Calgary - Regehr Carolina - Staal Chicago - Keith Colorado - Laperriere Columbus - Mason Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Hemsky Florida - Vokoun Los Angelas - Frolov Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Lundqvist Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Marleau St. Louis - Backes Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Schenn Vancouver - Kesler Washington - Ovechkin Edited April 5, 2009 by Reds4Life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
interminded 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Thomas Buffalo - Pominville Calgary - Iginla Carolina - Staal Chicago - Havlat Colorado - Smyth Columbus - S.Mason Dallas - Ribeiro Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Roloson Florida - Vokoun Los Angelas - Frolov Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Arnott New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Zherdev Ottawa - Spezza Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Nabokov St. Louis - C.Mason Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Kubina Vancouver - D.Sedin Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevieY'sguy 1 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Anaheim- Getzlaf Atlanta-Kovalchuk Boston- Thomas (there's about 5 people that could be considered for this, namely Chara but Thomas gets the nod) Buffalo- Vanek Calgary- Kiprusoff Carolia- Staal Chicago- Toews (the next great captain in hockey, reminds me a lot of a Joe Sakic) Colorado- Smyth (although Laperriere should gets consideration for being the only person on the team who's played over 60 games that doesn't have a +/- in the negatives...ouch) Columbus- Mason Dallas- Eriksson Detroit- Datsyuk Edmonton- Roloson (Hemsky's been great but to play as much as Rolo has and stay consistent is crazy) Florida- Bouwmeester Los Angeles- Kopitar Minnesota- Backstorm Montreal- Markov Nashville- Rinne New Jersey- Parise NY Islanders- Streit NY Rangers- Lundqvist Ottawa- Alfredsson Philly- Carter/ Richards (this one is as close to a tossup as you're going to get) Phoenix- Doan Pittsburgh- Crosby...He's had crappier linemates than Malkin all along and has been forced to be matched up against the opposition's top line every night....taking nothing away from Malkin- he's had a terrific season, but Crosby has taken almost all of the pressure on himself which freed the way for Malkin to remian comfortable and shine, Crosby has had no such luxury and has put up almost as many points....(9 less points in 5 less games) as Malkin despite those hardships San Jose- Nabokov St. Louis- Boyes (although i hate to award a team MVP to someone who's plus minus is -20) Tampa Bay- St. Louis Toronto- Blake (Ponikarovsky has an almost identical stat line, but as with Crosby, Blake has seen the opposition's top line wayy more than Ponikarovsky has) Vancouver- Mitchell Washington- Green/Semin....Obviously, Ovechkin is the best player on Washington but most of his stats are identical to last year's (although his plus minus is down an astounding 18) and yet the Capitals are a much better team this year what changed? Green, has raised his plus minus up 18 points, he has become the first defenseman to score 30 goals since the 92-93 season and has become the leading candidate for the Norris! Semin has raised his plus minus 42 points and has 31 more points in 5 less games than last season. Ovechkin produced the same offensive game and got worse defensively and yet his team got better and two of the best players on his team combine to raise their plus minus 60 points when AO loses 18 off of his....I'm not sure how that happens but i am sure that he is not the main reason the Caps got so much better this year so he does not get the nod here. By the way, i realize Semin like Malkin, gets the easier opposition but the reason I am giving Semin the nod and not Malkin is that Semin had a much more vast improvement in his game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 No offense to anyone intended, but people picking Hemsky over Roloson haven't seen enough of Edmonton this season. That's the flaw with this thread. Very few people could possibly see enough of all these teams to give a properly educated opinion of each team's MVP and rather end up giving a guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 No offense to anyone intended, but people picking Hemsky over Roloson haven't seen enough of Edmonton this season. That's the flaw with this thread. Very few people could possibly see enough of all these teams to give a properly educated opinion of each team's MVP and rather end up giving a guess. To the contrary, I've seen at least a dozen or two Edmonton games, especially against their own Western Canadian division counterparts. Hemsky has by in large impressed me over the last few seasons with his puckhandling/skating ability as well as this season with the difficulty he's had in meshing with late bloomers like Penner, O'Sullivan, and Cogliano who aren't exactly top quality linemates. He's done very well with what little he's had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy 130 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 To the contrary, I've seen at least a dozen or two Edmonton games, especially against their own Western Canadian division counterparts. Hemsky has by in large impressed me over the last few seasons with his puckhandling/skating ability as well as this season with the difficulty he's had in meshing with late bloomers like Penner, O'Sullivan, and Cogliano who aren't exactly top quality linemates. He's done very well with what little he's had. I anticipated a response from you. That notwithstanding, Roloson is their MVP. No question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Shoreline Report post Posted April 5, 2009 I anticipated a response from you. That notwithstanding, Roloson is their MVP. No question. You couldn't even explain why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted April 5, 2009 Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Chara Buffalo - Miller Calgary - Cammaleri Carolina - Ward Chicago - Keith Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Mason Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Roloson Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Kopitar Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Avery Ottawa - Kuba Philadelphia - Richards Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Crosby San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - C. Mason Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Schenn Vancouver - Luongo Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Avery as NYR's MVP? Yeah, he's been good for them since getting there, but he hasn't even played half of their games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SweWings 45 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Avery as NYR's MVP? Yeah, he's been good for them since getting there, but he hasn't even played half of their games. Without Lundqvist that team wouldn't even be close to the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Pardon me if I make some controversial picks. Toronto - CBC Winner! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeeRYCE 2 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 No offense to anyone intended, but people picking Hemsky over Roloson haven't seen enough of Edmonton this season. That's the flaw with this thread. Very few people could possibly see enough of all these teams to give a properly educated opinion of each team's MVP and rather end up giving a guess. Yeah I see your point, but a lot of people's opinions can revolve around stats as well. A player that contributes a lot of points, or a goalie that get's really good SV% and GAA really do reflect a lot in an MVP type player, and when there are enough stats to look at like hits, blocked shots, +/-, time on ice, and others... It give you a good consensus of who is most valuable to the team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Without Lundqvist that team wouldn't even be close to the playoffs. Exactly. And that's despite him having his worst year since getting to the league. If the Rangers could score goals they'd be a dangerous team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Thomas Buffalo - Miller Calgary - Cammaleri Carolina - Ward Chicago - Toews Colorado - Hedjuk Columbus - Mason Dallas - Eriksson Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Roloson Florida - Bouwmeester Los Angelas - Kopitar Minnesota - Backstrom Montreal - Markov Nashville - Weber New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Weight (when healthy) NY Rangers - Lundqvist Ottawa - Heatley Philadelphia - Carter Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Crosby San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - Backes Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Kaberle (when healthy) Vancouver - Luongo Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FinRedWing 172 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 Anaheim - Getzlaf Atlanta - Kovalchuk Boston - Thomas Buffalo - Miller Calgary - Kiprusoff Carolina - Staal Chicago - Keith Colorado - Smyth Columbus - Mason Dallas - Ribeiro Detroit - Datsyuk Edmonton - Roloson Florida - the goaltending duo Los Angelas - Doughty Minnesota - Bäckström Montreal - Koivu Nashville - Rinne New Jersey - Parise NY Islanders - Streit NY Rangers - Lundqvist Ottawa - Alfredsson Philadelphia - Carter Phoenix - Doan Pittsburgh - Malkin San Jose - Thornton St. Louis - Mason Tampa Bay - St. Louis Toronto - Ponikarovsky Vancouver - the Sedins Washington - Ovechkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theman19 47 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 I've watched quite a bit of Canes hockey latley (i live in Raleigh). I gotta agree with a few guys and disagree with a few others that Staal is that teams MVP. Or rather, the combo of Staal and Cole are. Ward has just been consitant this year. He's great at times, average at others, but he hasn't dipped into the land of suck like he had in years past. Simply put he's just been an NHL starter. The same could be said about Staal, but since the return of cole (and subsequent pairing of rutuu with Staal and cole) that team has been on fire. i can't think of another trade in recent memory that has worked out so well for a team. Before Cole's return clingy to the 8th seed for dear life. After Cole's return, Domination, to the point they're in 4th. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
