Randy Carlyle already working officials

[Vladifan 680]

Somebody was talking about Carlyle on another thread recently - I thnk a Ducks' fan - and I swear I remember watching a Ducks/Whoever game where one of the announcers said the Ducks just don't listen to Carlyle anyway. Ever. The comment came about because it was one of those games where the Ducks were piling on the penalties. Again.

I think it was him. Anybody else remember hearing that?

[servo 15]

Intent to interfere penalty! LOVE IT!!!!

How many players have had goals called back in the Conf and SCF's because of their reputations?

Maybe we should send Carlyle a book of Etiquette.

Edited May 1, 2009 by servo

[titanium2 867]

Somebody was talking about Carlyle on another thread recently - I thnk a Ducks' fan - and I swear I remember watching a Ducks/Whoever game where one of the announcers said the Ducks just don't listen to Carlyle anyway. Ever. The comment came about because it was one of those games where the Ducks were piling on the penalties. Again.

I think it was him. Anybody else remember hearing that?

Ken and Mickey mentioned that during a game against the Ducks. More specifically, they said he's "losing his voice in the locker room" or something to that effect. With the way coaching has gone in sports, no wonder Babs' contract is only for another few years, but I hope that doesn't happen to him.

[Superted 0]

Carlyle's posturing only proves that he thinks he has the inferior team...

"Sorry boys, you're not as good as them Red Wings, so I'll see if I can help you out by influencing the refs"

Yeah, great msg to send to your team

[C-TownWing 0]

Ken and Mickey mentioned that during a game against the Ducks. More specifically, they said he's "losing his voice in the locker room" or something to that effect. With the way coaching has gone in sports, no wonder Babs' contract is only for another few years, but I hope that doesn't happen to him.

Babs has the perfect demeanor for that to not happen to him. I mean, I suppose any coach can get tuned out some point, but it's usually the whiners and yellers that go first.

I have maybe less respect for Carlyle than any other coach in the NHL (Thierrien's not in the NHL at the moment), so this is just par for the course.

[Hockey Junkie 0]

great strategy.

now the refs will watch Homer in front of the net.

cause they don't do that already.

[Yak19 303]

Comments like this show he is not confident in his team, great stuff!

[mjlegend 155]

It's an easy, early excuse for Hiller, who really didn't have to deal with much too traffic against the Sharks.

I'm predicting he'll use the time change excuse for the Ducks' loss Sunday.

[Guest bobbyryan]

Babs has the perfect demeanor for that to not happen to him. I mean, I suppose any coach can get tuned out some point, but it's usually the whiners and yellers that go first.

I have maybe less respect for Carlyle than any other coach in the NHL (Thierrien's not in the NHL at the moment), so this is just par for the course.

As much as I hate to agree with you, I do. Carlyle is a bads. The guys are not committed to Carlyle because they don't believe in him. I have heard from a number of sources that I trust to be accurate that the guys don't believe in Randy, and that his message has worn thin. The Ducks need a players Coach at this point, not some knucklehead like Carlyle.

[Statts 4]

As much as I hate to agree with you, I do. Carlyle is a bads. The guys are not committed to Carlyle because they don't believe in him. I have heard from a number of sources that I trust to be accurate that the guys don't believe in Randy, and that his message has worn thin. The Ducks need a players Coach at this point, not some knucklehead like Carlyle.

Look no further than Dave Lewis... I think he is available

[Guest Four]

Time to wrap the series up boys. We know what happened both times a team complained about us publicly..

Duck huntin' is beginning.

[Williams29fan 6]

Homer is going to have penalties called, that is a given. It happened all season and he did not do anything.

Lol! Love it! Great show!

[Vladifan 680]

Ken and Mickey mentioned that during a game against the Ducks. More specifically, they said he's "losing his voice in the locker room" or something to that effect. With the way coaching has gone in sports, no wonder Babs' contract is only for another few years, but I hope that doesn't happen to him.

That was it! Now I remember. Thanks. And I agree with C-Town that Babcock's behavior is really conducive to being a leader more than a yeller/whiner. I also agree about Carlyle. He obviously approves of and probably promotes the cheap shots and the after-the-whistle-crap.

I hope the Ducks' California Karma Thing comes back and takes a huge chunk out of their collective asses.

Edited May 1, 2009 by Vladifan

[Vincanni 1]

Should have mentioned this earlier, but all this says to me about Carlyle is that he's scared.

[egroen 384]

Is it ironic to anyone else at all that the coach of the dirtiest team in the league is preemptively accusing the other team of being stinking cheaters? I'm sorry, but this is like the school bully warning the pricipal that the foreign nerd might be a menace.

Edited May 1, 2009 by egroen

[Chase 0]

Pre-whining??? Oh boy. We havent even got this series started yet, and Carlyle is whining. For Christs sake...

I'm SOOOO glad Babcock is our coach...

[TheUkrainian 49]

I totally called Homers Ass as an excuse for this round during the 1st playoff series in a previous thread.

On the other hand...grow up

[clutchngrab 12]

This should be interesting from an officiating point of view. Neither team is Canadien and perhaps the only team more consistently screwed by officials than the wings are the ducks.

[akustyk 84]

let's look on the other side of the equation. this is a nice vote of confidence from Carlyle to his players:

"guys, we have to complain and get calls because you're not getting it done otherwise".

I didn't know Carlyle from this side and I certainly didn't expect Ducks people to complain about the calls,

as their entire game plan is built upon it. they have no shame to expect the league to whistle Wings even

more. with the way refs swallow the whistles with dirty Ducks and look so proactively for equalizing calls

against the other team...

that's cheap. very cheap. nobody who follows this league and has some brain will ever buy this

"refs hurt Ducks" rant. never. ever.

[Guest bobbyryan]

Babs needs to keep his mouth shut. He shouldn't lower himself to Carlyle's level.

"I watched the other series very closely, and there were lots of calls and non-calls," Babcock said. "We're just optimistic the rules from the start of the rules are the same rules."

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

http://sports.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/...ortsHockey/home

"Holmstrom at times gets away with a lot more than most players do," Ducks coach Randy Carlyle said. "He's probably the guy that has the most penalties called against him for goaltender interference. It seems that (Johan) Franzen and now (Tomas) Kopecky are following that lead of trying to get in front of the net and be effective."

Awwwh.....mean old Detroit having the nerve to create traffic in front of the oppositions goalie. Tear.

Sidenote: Carlyle says "Holmstrom at times gets away with a lot more than most players do" yet he continues on by saying "He's probably the guy that has the most penalties called against him for goaltender interference". That makes sense, you say he's gets away with more than anyone yet he's probably got the most penalties called against him for goaltender interference. :looney:

[ChelisChick 174]

I'll get you some Kleenex hon. I know it's tearing you up inside. Wings are just a bunch of big fat meanies.

[stormboy 47]

great strategy.

now the refs will watch Homer in front of the net.

cause they don't do that already.

exactly. this is going to be a REAL wake-up call for the NHL. i think that homer is probably in the top five or ten guys in the league who get calls based on reputation. maybe top three. additionally, he's the guy who players are allowed to foul the most withOUT getting a call. that crosschecking/holding/tripping/slashing s*** would get called in most other situations, but i swear to god the refs are like, "well, homer IS making it really tough on the other team; we should give them a break."

Is it ironic to anyone else at all that the coach of the dirtiest team in the league is preemptively accusing the other team of being stinking cheaters? I'm sorry, but this is like the school bully warning the pricipal that the foreign nerd might be a menace.

again, very true. and i think you're analogy is actually quite accurate; it's pretty common to human nature to point out in others what you yourself are doing wrong. e.g. the person who steals from work is going to be very on the lookout for others who steal because if they can shift the focus on to someone else, they're more likely to get away with it themselves. if the refs are watching the back of homer's skates and starring at his ass, they're going to miss all the abuse he takes from pronger et. al.

Awwwh.....mean old Detroit having the nerve to create traffic in front of the oppositions goalie. Tear.

Sidenote: Carlyle says "Holmstrom at times gets away with a lot more than most players do" yet he continues on by saying "He's probably the guy that has the most penalties called against him for goaltender interference". That makes sense, you say he's gets away with more than anyone yet he's probably got the most penalties called against him for goaltender interference. :looney:

you're absolutely right. if homer doesn't get called for goalie interference, you can be pretty damn sure that he wasn't interfering because if it was even f***in' close they would have called it.

even still, i expect to see a LOT of bitching from hiller and the ducks' bench every time a goal is scored with someone parked in front of the net. and, like with that too-many-men call against the BJ's, the only reason it pisses me off is because it creates controversy where there should be none, somehow giving people a reason to doubt the fact that the wings actually are better.

i have to be honest, i was excited when i saw this thread only because i knew this would be the one place where we probably would all agree.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

exactly. this is going to be a REAL wake-up call for the NHL. i think that homer is probably in the top five or ten guys in the league who get calls based on reputation. maybe top three. additionally, he's the guy who players are allowed to foul the most withOUT getting a call. that crosschecking/holding/tripping/slashing s*** would get called in most other situations, but i swear to god the refs are like, "well, homer IS making it really tough on the other team; we should give them a break."

again, very true. and i think you're analogy is actually quite accurate; it's pretty common to human nature to point out in others what you yourself are doing wrong. e.g. the person who steals from work is going to be very on the lookout for others who steal because if they can shift the focus on to someone else, they're more likely to get away with it themselves. if the refs are watching the back of homer's skates and starring at his ass, they're going to miss all the abuse he takes from pronger et. al.

you're absolutely right. if homer doesn't get called for goalie interference, you can be pretty damn sure that he wasn't interfering because if it was even f***in' close they would have called it.

even still, i expect to see a LOT of bitching from hiller and the ducks' bench every time a goal is scored with someone parked in front of the net. and, like with that too-many-men call against the BJ's, the only reason it pisses me off is because it creates controversy where there should be none, somehow giving people a reason to doubt the fact that the wings actually are better.

i have to be honest, i was excited when i saw this thread only because i knew this would be the one place where we probably would all agree.

There's no reason to be pissed off about it. The only ones that state it created controversy are the ones the don't understand that that call *had* to be made. This wasn't a case of a player hopping onto the ice while the player he was replacing was a good 15-or-so feet away from the bench. Bottom line, he touched the puck....end of controversy. Anything else is just whining and grasping at straws.

[stormboy 47]

Ducks defenceman Scott Niedermayer had a similar response when asked what his strategy was against Holmstrom.

"It's a secret," Niedermayer said.

secret - n.

1. Something kept hidden from others or known only to oneself or to a few.

2. Crosscheck-crosscheck-hold-slash-crosscheck-piledrive-slash-crosscheck-crosscheck-crosscheck