frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too Sign Bert, larose, ohlund FORWARDS Danny Heatley $7,500,000 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,700,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chris Neil $1,500,000 Chad LaRose $1,200,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $750,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mattias Ohlund $2,200,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,120,653 BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (0.2% of cap) $110,000 CAP ROOM $679,347 CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $679,347 Heatley-Dats-Leino Mule-Z-Homer Bert-Helm-Neil LaRose-Draps-Abdelkader/Malts Lids-Ericsson Ohlund-Kronner Stu-Meech/Lebs Oz Howard it's almost 4am, i'm just bored now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too Sign Bert, larose, ohlund Those NTC's are such a damper on trade proposals... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frederick9125 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Holland can talk and get him to waive it possibly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi 1,865 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Holland can talk and get him to waive it possibly To OTTAWA? Let's see. You're the #2 defenseman on a team fresh off a Cup finals appearance which was fresh off a Stanley Cup win. You're playing for the team you grew up watching, living in the city you grew up in. Not only are you paired with arguably the best defenseman playing the game today, you're also playing for arguably the best coach behind the bench, AND working for arguably the best owners in the NHL. Do you REALLY think that Rafalski would give that up to be traded to the Senators? A team with two chances to make the playoffs, slim and none? Same goes with Cleary. No way is he going to waive his NTC to be traded to Ottawa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Yeah, I see Heatley going to Calgary for Dion if they can sign Jay Bo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cern 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Resigning Bertuzzi is laughable in and of itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyphoenix 153 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 I have seen some pretty dumb ideas but seriously? Come on now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Heatley is a floater. Thanks but no thanks. Rafalski's cotract sucks, but it is still better than what Danny boy has. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Probie 7 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too Sign Bert, larose, ohlund FORWARDS Danny Heatley $7,500,000 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,700,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chris Neil $1,500,000 Chad LaRose $1,200,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $750,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mattias Ohlund $2,200,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,120,653 BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (0.2% of cap) $110,000 CAP ROOM $679,347 CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $679,347 Heatley-Dats-Leino Mule-Z-Homer Bert-Helm-Neil LaRose-Draps-Abdelkader/Malts Lids-Ericsson Ohlund-Kronner Stu-Meech/Lebs Oz Howard it's almost 4am, i'm just bored now The wont and cannot trade Rafs and cleary because of the ntc, and raffy would never do it. Heater is one dimensional and doesnt play our two way style, plus with his attitude the detroit braintrust would never allow such a trade, he wouldnt help the dressing room. I dont mind Ohlund but I think he might want too much coin, he will be seeking more then his 2.2M salary from last year, hes on the downward slope despite his age of only 32. Bertuzzi is done, and we already lost Shawn Mattias for signing him, he left our team after we traded for him. Hes going down, if not already done, and doesnt fit at all,and people here have a bad taste in their mouths regarding him. Maybe a few years ago, but not now. His salary could be better spent. ....watch out our posters here are pretty well schooled and arent afraid to speak their minds, and they will bash your proposal. I fear this could get ugly.... I do really like Neil, and Larose would be decent if drapes and maltby are out of the picture.... Edited June 28, 2009 by Probie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lets go pavel 2 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Hell no, you are giving up way too much. I'd rather have Hossa than Heatley, and we certainly wouldn't need to give up all that to make cap space for him. Neil's a FA, so we can just wait until July 1 to make a run at him, no need to trade anyone. And Bertuzzi ... really? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Mule 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Yes to Neil and LaRose, no to Bert and Ohlund. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dominator2005 558 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 :rotflmao: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elriqo28 2 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too Sign Bert, larose, ohlund FORWARDS Danny Heatley $7,500,000 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,700,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chris Neil $1,500,000 Chad LaRose $1,200,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $750,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mattias Ohlund $2,200,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,120,653 BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (0.2% of cap) $110,000 CAP ROOM $679,347 CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $679,347 Heatley-Dats-Leino Mule-Z-Homer Bert-Helm-Neil LaRose-Draps-Abdelkader/Malts Lids-Ericsson Ohlund-Kronner Stu-Meech/Lebs Oz Howard it's almost 4am, i'm just bored now you're dumb! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LIDDYGIBBY5 1 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 I've seen a lot of crazy stuff on this site, but come on! Here is another idea, why do so many people not understand a NTC. People throw out the idea of trades daily that involve players with a NTC and get ridiculed. You would think that others would learn. I guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dat's sick 1,002 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 This worked in NHL09 so it has to work in real life too!!11!!1!!!11!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 I've seen a lot of crazy stuff on this site, but come on! Here is another idea, why do so many people not understand a NTC. People throw out the idea of trades daily that involve players with a NTC and get ridiculed. You would think that others would learn. I guess not. Players with NTC (Stuart, mainly) are the best option to trade without trading a young player with many good years ahead of him. The biggest problem with an NTC is making it the RIGHT trade so that the player actually waives the NTC. But here's an interesting thought. Offer Stuart to Edmonton for Jean-Francois Jacques and one of Taylor Chorney, Ladislav Smid, or even a 2nd rounder (a 1st rounder if they are willing). Stuart is from halfway between Edmonton and Calgary, so he might be perfectly willing to go for that deal. Stuart's salary is the biggest block between the Wings and retaining Hossa, and Stuart was our worst defenseman in the playoffs, especially in the finals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vilmer 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 I don't want Heatley anywhere near this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest lnvincible Report post Posted June 28, 2009 I have seen some pretty dumb ideas but seriously? Come on now. This is the dumbest trade idea i saw in the last month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted June 28, 2009 Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too Sign Bert, larose, ohlund FORWARDS Danny Heatley $7,500,000 Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000 Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333 Johan Franzen $3,954,545 Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000 Todd Bertuzzi $1,700,000 Kris Draper $1,583,333 Chris Neil $1,500,000 Chad LaRose $1,200,000 Kirk Maltby $883,333 Justin Abdelkader $850,000 Ville Leino $750,000 Darren Helm $599,444 DEFENSEMEN Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000 Brad Stuart $3,750,000 Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000 Mattias Ohlund $2,200,000 Jonathan Ericsson $900,000 Brett Lebda $650,000 Derek Meech $483,333 GOALTENDERS Chris Osgood $1,416,666 Jimmy Howard $716,666 BUYOUTS NONE LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS NONE CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (including bonuses) ROSTER SIZE 22 SALARY CAP $56,800,000 PAYROLL $56,120,653 BONUS MONEY (ESTIMATED) (0.2% of cap) $110,000 CAP ROOM $679,347 CAP ROOM PER OPEN SPOT $679,347 Heatley-Dats-Leino Mule-Z-Homer Bert-Helm-Neil LaRose-Draps-Abdelkader/Malts Lids-Ericsson Ohlund-Kronner Stu-Meech/Lebs Oz Howard it's almost 4am, i'm just bored now How about no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 No way would I do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 You say "Make the trade", as if this were at all possible ... it isn't. If you're bored at 4:00 am, try sleeping, it helps ward off insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings11 0 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 "Cleary, Filp, Huds rights, Rafi and 2nd to Ott for Heatley and Neil. Toss in hossa's rights too" i dont even understand how you could even make this post? Um? You're making our fanbase look like idiots?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 yyyyyuck! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HadThomasVokounOnFortSt 878 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 You fail bad, that was the dumbest thing I have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzermania19 1 Report post Posted June 28, 2009 :rotflmao: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites