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Dan Cleary Suffers Upper Body Injury

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No one will be called up. Leino will be reinserted into the lineup if Cleary misses any time.

Which sucks because Leino has proven to be just as snakebitten as everyone else. I think I'd rather give one of the GR kids a chance. We have a good history of call-ups having ridiculously good showings (better than their careers sometimes).

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So that extra couple weeks really makes that big of a difference? What about all the injuries around the league. What about Pittsburgh? I don't buy it.

Um... have you watched Pittsburgh's injuries? Pretty sure their ENTIRE starting defense core was out at one point. Crosby's been hurt twice, Malkin's been out. Pretty sure they've been as beat up as us.

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Um... have you watched Pittsburgh's injuries? Pretty sure their ENTIRE starting defense core was out at one point. Crosby's been hurt twice, Malkin's been out. Pretty sure they've been as beat up as us.

Yeah, and they lost the majority of their games in that span. Crosby played like garbage, and they did not look like a great team. Malkin came back and they started playing better.

Hmmmm.

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Yeah, and they lost the majority of their games in that span. Crosby played like garbage, and they did not look like a great team. Malkin came back and they started playing better.

Hmmmm.

That's EXACTLY what my point was. People were arguing that it CAN'T be exhaustion because the Penguins aren't having the same problems, when they are. They're a younger team, and have been through almost as many long seasons as us (we have one more year going to WCF when they missed the playoffs?)

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At this rate, we are going to be pulling players up from Toledo. OMG!!

ewwww, toledo

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If someone has ever claimed that a toughguy would prevent all questionable hits against us, quote them here and now, otherwise quit being such a f***tard. May does reduce the ammount of cheap garbage other teams try against us. Honest posters here know it,Babcock knows it and has spoken about it, grow up.

Argument to the authority really doesn't help your case when the same authority contradicts himself the year previous.

Also the entire point is that maybe an enforcer doesn't prevent EVERYTHING, but it seems like his "enforcing" has been a non-factor this season. Sure he is a workhorse who helps the fourth line and is entertaining as hell, but I would never look to him as someone who "keeps players protected."

Also regarding "exhaustion" as a major contributing factor: Why was Vancouver so injured?

Dec 8, 2009: Alexander Edler - Upper-body injury (day-to-day)

Nov 25, 2009: Rick Rypien - Lower-body injury (day-to-day)

Nov 4, 2009: Steve Bernier - Flu (day-to-day)

Oct 31, 2009: Michael Grabner - Fractured ankle (IR)

Oct 29, 2009: Alexandre Bolduc - Shoulder (IR)

Oct 27, 2009: Roberto Luongo - Fractured rib (IR)

Oct 27, 2009: Ryan Johnson - Upper-body injury (IR)

Oct 24, 2009: Kyle Wellwood - Broken right big toe (IR)

Oct 20, 2009: Rick Rypien - Sore groin (day-to-day)

Oct 12, 2009: Sami Salo - Sprained right MCL (IR)

Oct 9, 2009: Daniel Sedin - Broken left foot (IR)

Sep 29, 2009: Jannik Hansen - Right hand (IR)

Sep 28, 2009: Mathieu Schneider - Shoulder surgery recovery (IR)

Sep 13, 2009: Pavol Demitra - Torn left rotator cuff (IR)

They had it worse than Detroit. In fact a good portion of the league is injured this year. It's not just the teams that have made it deep consistently.

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Argument to the authority really doesn't help your case when the same authority contradicts himself the year previous.

Babs is no dummy. He knew that our guys were getting bullied - but calling attention to it wouldn't have helped matters. This spring, he reneted a toughguy. He observed the games that the toughguy did and did not play in. He concluded (as any honest observer would) that with a toughguy, the wings get bullied less. He didn't have to say this - May was not yet a member of the team. It was his reasoning for wanting to sign May. smart guy, that Babcock.

Also the entire point is that maybe an enforcer doesn't prevent EVERYTHING, but it seems like his "enforcing" has been a non-factor this season. Sure he is a workhorse who helps the fourth line and is entertaining as hell, but I would never look to him as someone who "keeps players protected."

"...helps protect players" would probably be more accurate. He is a great asset to the team, but he isn't superman. He reduces the amount of cheapshots our guys recieve. Babs saw it. I see it. You need to watch closer. Next time me and Babs are watching a Tivo'd game in my basement, maybe I'll send an invite your way. Bring your own beer and take off your shoes before you enter my home, for f***'s sake.

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If someone has ever claimed that a toughguy would prevent all questionable hits against us, quote them here and now, otherwise quit being such a f***tard. May does reduce the ammount of cheap garbage other teams try against us. Honest posters here know it,Babcock knows it and has spoken about it, grow up.

Yeah, it sucks having this repeatedly brought back up. But I guess this is what you (plural) get for constantly pointing out how necessary an enforcer was and the Holland bashing. Apparently, some people do just wait around to say "I gotcha!"

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Argument to the authority really doesn't help your case when the same authority contradicts himself the year previous.

Also the entire point is that maybe an enforcer doesn't prevent EVERYTHING, but it seems like his "enforcing" has been a non-factor this season. Sure he is a workhorse who helps the fourth line and is entertaining as hell, but I would never look to him as someone who "keeps players protected."

Also regarding "exhaustion" as a major contributing factor: Why was Vancouver so injured?

Dec 8, 2009: Alexander Edler - Upper-body injury (day-to-day)

Nov 25, 2009: Rick Rypien - Lower-body injury (day-to-day)

Nov 4, 2009: Steve Bernier - Flu (day-to-day)

Oct 31, 2009: Michael Grabner - Fractured ankle (IR)

Oct 29, 2009: Alexandre Bolduc - Shoulder (IR)

Oct 27, 2009: Roberto Luongo - Fractured rib (IR)

Oct 27, 2009: Ryan Johnson - Upper-body injury (IR)

Oct 24, 2009: Kyle Wellwood - Broken right big toe (IR)

Oct 20, 2009: Rick Rypien - Sore groin (day-to-day)

Oct 12, 2009: Sami Salo - Sprained right MCL (IR)

Oct 9, 2009: Daniel Sedin - Broken left foot (IR)

Sep 29, 2009: Jannik Hansen - Right hand (IR)

Sep 28, 2009: Mathieu Schneider - Shoulder surgery recovery (IR)

Sep 13, 2009: Pavol Demitra - Torn left rotator cuff (IR)

They had it worse than Detroit. In fact a good portion of the league is injured this year. It's not just the teams that have made it deep consistently.

I can agree that daniel sedin, sami salo were big blows for them... luongo was only gone two weeks if i remember correctly and bernier only had flu and recovered fast, schnedier isnt that imporant anymore getting way old, maybe demitra is a loss too but he's just a shadow of his former self... the rest are just random players that anyone can replace.

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I can agree that daniel sedin, sami salo were big blows for them... luongo was only gone two weeks if i remember correctly and bernier only had flu and recovered fast, schnedier isnt that imporant anymore getting way old, maybe demitra is a loss too but he's just a shadow of his former self... the rest are just random players that anyone can replace.

I agree, it's not the quantity, but the quality of the players injured. Certainly Detroit's not alone this season in that regard.

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Yeah, it sucks having this repeatedly brought back up. But I guess this is what you (plural) get for constantly pointing out how necessary an enforcer was and the Holland bashing. Apparently, some people do just wait around to say "I gotcha!"

I can understand why a person who hasn't had much success in their life might get off on winning an internet argument, if and when that happens, I hope they savor it. I only wish they'd be honest enough to save those "gotcha" posts for times when they're, you know, right. The argument that a toughguy prevents all cheapshots was never made, but some here sure do like to argue against it.

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You know, this might sound a little off the path, but I wonder how much of this can be attributed to a) The shortness of training camps, b) The compacted schedules, and c) Players trying to bust ass to impress their respective country's coaches to make the Olympic team? I heard Lou Lamorella say the same thing, so maybe it isn't too crazy???

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