Chris Chelios Arrested

[Broken 16 381]

i bet you're happy that chelios has given you some fresh fuel for your grudge

I was pretty confident he wouldn't let me down.

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

Are you serious? The Red Wing organization kept Chelios in line while he was here. He was a complete idiot before he came here, makes sense that he would revert to being an idiot now that he's gone.

Leave it to Chelios to not give a f*** about anyone but himself and get behind the wheel drunk. Loser.

What Chelios did was unbelievably poor judgement, especially for someone his age, with kids. But the Wings were not keeping him line while he was here. He was a Norris winner, a well established veteran and a grown ass man, not some 19 year old.

[Broken 16 381]

What Chelios did was unbelievably poor judgement, especially for someone his age, with kids. But the Wings were not keeping him line while he was here. He was a Norris winner, a well established veteran and a grown ass man, not some 19 year old.

He was a loose cannon in Chicago.

[esteef 2,679]

I f***in' love Chelios.

esteef

[Rivalred 630]

And the members of LGW said he was too slow for his age, way to prove em wrong Cheli!

[haroldsnepsts 4,826]

He was a loose cannon in Chicago.

Other than shooting off his mouth, I don't remember anything in particular.

Like I said, incredibly poor judgement for anyone, but especially someone his age.

Edited January 6, 2010 by haroldsnepsts

[Duck Guy 86]

I always wonder why someone with that amount of money can't just take a TAXI. Seriously, this enrages me. There's no excuse for drunk driving EVER.

we have seen what happens when nhl stars take taxis

[rage 24]

And the members of LGW said he was too slow for his age, way to prove em wrong Cheli!

That was awesome!!!!

[akustyk 84]

lol

after reading the comments I thought Cheli did something REALLY bad like gun possession/shooting or dog fighting, things only NFL players would do

and then I read the news...

I happen to have grown in Poland where drunk driving is a very serious issue

for road safety (just as in a number of other European countries). and as much

as I used to like Chelli I'll be glad to see him punished. there's really no jokes

with drinking and driving...

[Inultus 12]

As a bartender, getting behind the wheel drunk is dumb, totally agree. I've yet to see anything about his BAC though. I probably know at least 2 dozen people who have gotten a DUI or DWI. At .09 or even .10 most people are absolutely fine to drive, but the federal government blackmailed all the states into making the limit .08.

Alcohol affects different people in different ways, so coming up with some number and saying that anything over that number is impaired is dumb. I know a girl who failed a roadside test, then blew .05. I also know a bunch of other people who passed their roadside test then blew just over the limit.

Like it or not, most of the people leaving a bar are driving over the limit. I'm not saying it's right, just stating facts. 2 beers, mixed drinks or glasses of wine in a couple of hours can put you over the limit, especially if you are female.

I had to take a class on recognizing signs of a drunk person. As a bartender I don't make them blow to see if they are ok to drive. I look for telltale signs and make my judgment based on that. IMO, cops should do the same when they pull someone over. It was that way 20/30 years ago when the government wasn't so damn money hungry, and as far as I know there were less drunk driving accidents back then.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Drunk driving isn't serious?

Not to downplay this one bit, but there's a huge difference between driving under the influence (which is what Cheli was doing) and drunk driving. It's legal to drive under the influence as long as you're under the limit (0.08% in Illinois). Speeding on top of it was stupid, but who here can honestly say they don't go out to eat, have one beer and then drive home? That's the equivalent of a DUI.

When they release his BAC, that's gonna be the key to this story.

[55fan 5,133]

Driving drunk is stupid. Unfortunately, alcohol also impairs judgment.

Driving over the limit is almost impossible to judge without a breath test.

I had a friend years ago who weighed 85 pounds, and started her day with 3 beers, and then started her real drinking. She had such a tolerance that she could function at work with a six pack under her belt, but it only took 3/5 of a beer to put her over the legal limit.

I, on the other hand, am of such a weight that a single drink won't put me over the legal limit. We have spot checks in town where they stop everyone driving on a certain street. I have passed after a drink. However, since I don't drink as much as I used to when I was younger, I'm not comfortable driving with more than one drink, even though I'm legal if I take a couple of hours to consume them.

Cheli is a known drinker, and if he registers as barely over the limit, I don't think he would be actually impaired. If he was drunk, that's another story.

Having been raised in a rural setting, I am more laid back when I hear that someone had a DWI. Then I think about the difference between driving in Hicktown and driving in Fargo, and compare that to driving in Chicago.

I've only driven around Chicago. I'd be scared to drive in the city sober. There's a huge difference when you are sharing the road with more than an occasional cow.

I hope Cheli was only legally over, and not actually impaired. In his case, I think this is possible.

In the end, I hope what comes out of our story is this: Kids, don't try this at home.

[Inultus 12]

Driving over the limit is almost impossible to judge without a breath test.

Interesting that you mention that because I called the cops and asked them to recommend a breathalyzer to me. They wouldn't. They asked me why I wanted one and I told them I wanted to make sure that neither myself nor my customers when I was working drive drunk.

They said I shouldn't have a breathalyzer because it would give me and my cusomers a false sense of security because they might blow under .08 but still be impaired.

I asked them why they then assign a BAC number at all if it varies so much from person to person. They didn't have an answer for that one. I hate government.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

Exactly.

For all we know he may have appeared coherent, and capable of passing the field sobriety test for the officer who pulled him over - however the breathalyzer may have indicated he was over the limit.

Well if that's the case, then wouldn't Cheli have been charged with a DWI (Driving While Intoxicated) which is illegal rather than a DUI (Driving Under the Influence) which isn't?

That's the point of my post. It has nothing to do with his ability to drive at, or slightly above the intoxication limit. If he was at 0.08 of more, he deserves what he's got coming. If its less, depending on Illinois' state laws he may have done nothing wrong other than speeding.

[rage 24]

Well if that's the case, then wouldn't Cheli have been charged with a DWI (Driving While Intoxicated) which is illegal rather than a DUI (Driving Under the Influence) which isn't?

That's the point of my post. It has nothing to do with his ability to drive at, or slightly above the intoxication limit. If he was at 0.08 of more, he deserves what he's got coming. If its less, depending on Illinois' state laws he may have done nothing wrong other than speeding.

The laws differ from state to state. I think Michigan calls it Driving Under the Influence no matter what the amount is.

You can also get a DUI for being on prescription meds or drugs and driving. It's all the same anymore.

And yeah, the Gov't has cracked down on DUI's but that's mostly due to Mother's Against DD. They are the pushers of these tough crackdowns.

[DylanMckay 1]

I would be incredibly suprised if every single one of these posters berating the guy have never driven technically over the limit. They never said his B.A.C., and I would be willing to bet that at least a third of the people yelling at him have drinken when technically "over the limit".

Lots of holier than thou people in this thread. I got a DUI after having a little less than 3 beers. How many people go to the bar and drink 2 beers or less. I blew a .82 which was good enough for a DUI and 5k in court costs. Most women who drive while texting scare me more than someone who is assfaced driving late at night.

[Louisville 112]

I had the Stanley Cup handed to me by Chris Chelios, I think I can forgive him on this one...

You drive drunk and you get arrested, you take a taxi and the driver needs to be beaten up, you can't win in this world...

[Guest Blackhawkdown]

I absolutely hate when people act like drunk driving isn't really bad. Cheli has always been a tool and one of those players you hate if he's not on your team. He's always seemed like a dbag to me.

It's not that bad (depending on how much you drank). Anybody with any kind of social life (except the very few who dont drink at all, ever) have been behind the wheel of a car after having a couple drinks. Yes, getting behind the wheel of a car if you have drank a ton is stupid, but I cant count the number of times I have stopped by the bar/resturant and had a couple drinks with friends after work, and then drove home perfectly fine. I could have easily blown but that doesnt mean I was some hazard being on the road when I couldnt even feel the alcohol I had drunk. And most people have done the same, whether they will admit it or not. Nobody knows exactly how drunk he was, so I dont see how anyone can bash the guy this bad.

He was stupid for speeding though, you should know not to speed after you have drank alcohol.

Edited January 6, 2010 by Blackhawkdown

[akustyk 84]

but who here can honestly say they don't go out to eat, have one beer and then drive home? That's the equivalent of a DUI.

me.

if I'm expecting to be driving within a couple of hours or even have to take care of my child myself - I refrain to non-alcoholic beverages. it's 0.00% for me. period.

if I want a beer or wine I simply leave my car and use public transport. that's so easy.

and yes, it works

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

me.

if I'm expecting to be driving within a couple of hours or even have to take care of my child myself - I refrain to non-alcoholic beverages. it's 0.00% for me. period.

if I want a beer or wine I simply leave my car and use public transport. that's so easy.

and yes, it works

That's great that you abide by that rule. That being said, I'm willing to bet 99% of the members on this board at some point in their lives have had one drink and then gotten behind the wheel. Bottom line is that for most people drinking one beer with a meal isn't going to impair their judgment enough to be detrimental on the road. How many people go out to restaurants and do exactly what I just described? Millions upon millions.

[Rivalred 630]

me.

if I'm expecting to be driving within a couple of hours or even have to take care of my child myself - I refrain to non-alcoholic beverages. it's 0.00% for me. period.

if I want a beer or wine I simply leave my car and use public transport. that's so easy.

and yes, it works

Congrats on having public transport where you live!

You are playing it smart, and I give you credit for that...

[Broken 16 381]

It's not that bad (depending on how much you drank). Anybody with any kind of social life (except the very few who dont drink at all, ever) have been behind the wheel of a car after having a couple drinks. Yes, getting behind the wheel of a car if you have drank a ton is stupid, but I cant count the number of times I have stopped by the bar/resturant and had a couple drinks with friends after work, and then drove home perfectly fine. I could have easily blown but that doesnt mean I was some hazard being on the road when I couldnt even feel the alcohol I had drunk. And most people have done the same, whether they will admit it or not. Nobody knows exactly how drunk he was, so I dont see how anyone can bash the guy this bad.

He was stupid for speeding though, you should know not to speed after you have drank alcohol.

It's pretty obvious who's life hasn't been affected by a drunk driver. My ex sister in law was hit by an impaired driver. She suffered a head injury and has never been the same. The guy wasn't blasted (I was there, in a different car). He only had a few drinks. He chose to drive that way and now she suffers for the rest of her life because of it. But you're right... driving while impaired is no big deal.

Edited January 6, 2010 by Broken 16

[Guest ZetterbergFourty]

s*** happens, nothing to make a huge deal of. People DUI all the fckn time.

[NeverForgetMac25 483]

It's pretty obvious who's life hasn't been affected by a drunk driver. My ex sister in law was hit by an impaired driver. She suffered a head injury and has never been the same. The guy wasn't blasted (I was there, in a different car). He only had a few drinks. He chose to drive that way and now she suffers for the rest of her life because of it. But you're right... driving while impaired is no big deal.

That's a pretty bold statement to be making. A next-door neighbor of mine was killed by a drunk 15-year old kid on a joy ride and I despise drunk-driving as result. That being said, there's a significant difference between getting blasted and having a single drink during a meal before getting behind the wheel.

[Konnan511 1,736]

It's pretty obvious who's life hasn't been affected by a drunk driver. My ex sister in law was hit by an impaired driver. She suffered a head injury and has never been the same. The guy wasn't blasted (I was there, in a different car). He only had a few drinks. He chose to drive that way and now she suffers for the rest of her life because of it. But you're right... driving while impaired is no big deal.

How do you know Chelios was drunk? My soon-to-be best man was killed by a drunk driver, not by a slightly impaired driver. I DO NOT condone drunk driving, but I have gone out to BDubs, had a beer or two while putting back a burger and 12 or so wings on a few occasions. Drunk driving =/ Driving with alcohol in your system.

And to answer the question why is the legal BAC .08, it started because of church, so if you have the sip of wine you would still be allowed to drive home with alcohol in your system, or at least that is what I remember hearing a decade or so ago.