Guest mindfly Report post Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) Is it impossible for him to sign a really low 1year contract like 1-3million per season? would/could the nhl interfere and not accept the contract? would not holland "allow" it because he's captain and franchise player etc? lidstrom got so much money and at this stage of the career and with the wings situation it would help the team ALOT, can be active in july and sign a player with more skillz than eaves/miller that is 500k guys. Edited January 10, 2010 by mindfly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 I'm not worried about Lidstrom screwing around with us. Hell, he deserves all the time he thinks he needs though I doubt he'd do anything to hinder our chances of signing other people. But something makes me worry about old Happy Hudler... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Do you have a source that proves otherwise? No? I didn't think so. Red Wings w/ no Hossa = cup Pittsburgh w/ Hossa = no cup Red Wings w/ Hossa = no cup Pittsburgh w/ no Hossa = cup It's a proven curse. You really need to get out more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FunkedUp 29 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Do you have a source that proves otherwise? No? I didn't think so. Red Wings w/ no Hossa = cup Pittsburgh w/ Hossa = no cup Red Wings w/ Hossa = no cup Pittsburgh w/ no Hossa = cup It's a proven curse. I think there's also a winter classic curse. Pit beat Buffalo - Pit loses in finals Wings beat Chicago - Det loses in finals Bruins beat Philly - ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 yah, I've only watched hockey for two years as well.... Oh, I forgot about all those cups Hossa won before those two years. Damn, how did I miss that?! Oh wait... ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Just like you think the team who has Hossa will go to the SFC every year and lose. It's true. The CURSE is true! Remember the Brett Hull Curse?!?! PROOF!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Do you have a source that proves otherwise? No? I didn't think so. Red Wings w/ no Hossa = cup Pittsburgh w/ Hossa = no cup Red Wings w/ Hossa = no cup Pittsburgh w/ no Hossa = cup It's a proven curse. No. Just no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 4 8 15 16 23 42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marty Barry 230 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 4 8 15 16 23 42 Loser Lotto? I'll play those numbers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcom007 1,465 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Loser Lotto? I'll play those numbers! Just don't go to Australia... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miller Brew 0 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 It's true. The CURSE is true! Remember the Brett Hull Curse?!?! PROOF!!! The presence of Lucky Luke overrides any curse. Don't ya know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymz99 2 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Oooo, I missed this post.... Leino's jock strap does not even want to provide him support, that is how bad he is.... Why don't you donate some money to this site and support it or are you a Penguins fan? I must have hit a sensitive nerve! Another person pissed at how the Wings are doing and looking for a scape goat. I have come on these forums after Leino has had a solid night with kudos from Babs and everyone still says he played like crap. Living room coaches are best left in the living room. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Oh, I forgot about all those cups Hossa won before those two years. Damn, how did I miss that?! Oh wait... ) Must you bicker about meaningless s*** in every thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rivalred 630 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 I must have hit a sensitive nerve! Another person pissed at how the Wings are doing and looking for a scape goat. I have come on these forums after Leino has had a solid night with kudos from Babs and everyone still says he played like crap. Living room coaches are best left in the living room. Leino has not had a solid night in months.... The guy did not even play the game last night... Hit a nerve? Ha! Don't flatter yourself... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted January 10, 2010 Can't perform at a high level? Uh, am I the only one that realizes that Lidstrom has 20 points thus far (which isn't amazing, but isn't bad, considering our offensive woes) and is playing 25+ mins a night, while still being our most defensively-sound player? Lidstrom can play just fine at the level we need him to play at. He also has less goals this season than Hal Gill. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Good to hear Hudler is interested in coming back, even though nobody said that. You just know that calling your ex-GM of the team you're still under contract to to wish a happy new year and say you don't know what you'll be doing next year means "I want back in." Despite the drama over Hudler's departure, I would gladly take him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheOwl 77 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 No we won't. Kronwall has been injured a lot, and I don't think Meech and Lebda can fill in either. This team will have to bring in a top d-man if Lidstrom leaves. We won't be O.K. with what we have now filling in, especially since Rafalski is getting up in age also. Why not? I'm sure you are aware that Detroit spends more on it's 6-defensemen then ANY other team. For all that money, more then 1/3 of our total cap space, shouldn't we have the best D in the league? Why do we need to spend so much? Stuart and Kronwall would make a great top pair, both are improving substantially, and I would argue Kronwall-Stuart are playing better this year then Lids-Rafa. If Lidstrom retires, spending 6 or so million on another D-man would be a huge waste. How many top D-man does a team even need? 3 guys making over 3 million is enough. If we replace Lidstrom with an outside D-man, we are basically wasting our prospects. Ericcson is ready for top 4 duty, Meech kind of sucks, Kindl should be in the 3rd pairing next season. Rafalski's contract ends after next season. He's gone. That's the time to get a 6 million/yr D-man. Stuart and Kronwall will also get raises after next season. If we learned anything from last season, spending 1/3 of the cap on D-men, doesn't equal a good defensive team. The Wings lost the cup on scoring. The Wings could get a top 10 NHL forward using Lidstroms salary. Wings need scoring. Not another 6 million/yr defensemen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GORM19 0 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Like i said before this is going to be lids last year and he knows it, but he doesn't want it to become a distraction so he is saying that he will decide after the season. And in my opinion our best d-man this year has been stewy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 His whole reason for going to Russia was that he didn't want to play for another NHL team than the Wings. lol, you believe that? He could have played with the wings this season, but turned it down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 lol, you believe that? He could have played with the wings this season, but turned it down... I believe it. As I recall, he was quoted as saying it. The Wings couldn't afford him at what he wanted. The arbitration assures him a spot with the Wings when they can afford him, and he gets as good experience as if he was playing in the minors without having to be exposed to waivers. That's how I'm looking at it. He was sent down for a year or two. When he comes back, we have him at a good price. It would have been a win-win situation except that we could have really used him because of injuries this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rage 24 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Is it impossible for him to sign a really low 1year contract like 1-3million per season? would/could the nhl interfere and not accept the contract? would not holland "allow" it because he's captain and franchise player etc? lidstrom got so much money and at this stage of the career and with the wings situation it would help the team ALOT, can be active in july and sign a player with more skillz than eaves/miller that is 500k guys. The NHL couldn't do s*** about it, but the NHLPA would raise all kinds of hell. And that's basically the jury of his peers. In short, not going to happen. Not to say he doesn't get something modest like 4-6 million tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blgillett 48 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 Hulder was way more effective than Leino... My Grandmother is more effective then Leino and she has been dead for 25 years! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broken 16 381 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 The NHL couldn't do s*** about it, but the NHLPA would raise all kinds of hell. And that's basically the jury of his peers. In short, not going to happen. Not to say he doesn't get something modest like 4-6 million tough. There is nothing modest about 4-6 million for a 40 year old Lidstrom. I would think 4 mill would be the high end. 6 million would be ridiculously high at this stage of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 There is nothing modest about 4-6 million for a 40 year old Lidstrom. I would think 4 mill would be the high end. 6 million would be ridiculously high at this stage of his career. Kind of like Yzerman's contracts towards the end of his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWingsRox 614 Report post Posted January 11, 2010 If Lidstrom wanted to play a couple more year at 4 mill/yr, I'd take that any day. Rafalski is making 6 mill/yr and his stats are no better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites