mmamolo 287 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Yes, I too would rather have Maxim Afinogenov!!! He's way cheaper too. More realistic and I've wanted him in Detroit for a LONG time. Ever since seeing the chemistry that he and Datsyuk have (in the Worlds I think it was). I caught soem flack last summer on these boards for saying I wanted the Wings to offer him a 750k 1 year deal. There's no denying his skill and I'm really not surprised he's kind of turned thigns around this season. That being said, I dont know what it would take to get him out of Atlanta but if I were Holland I would definitely make a call to find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
13dangledangle 965 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Yes, I too would rather have Maxim Afinogenov!!! He's way cheaper too. More realistic and I've wanted him in Detroit for a LONG time. Ever since seeing the chemistry that he and Datsyuk have (in the Worlds I think it was). I'm still confused as to why Kenny never signed him in the off season, I thought for sure Afi was coming here! But it's not too late, again get it done Kenny! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Filppula will be our 2nd line center. I'd start looking for that 3rd line center already, if Williams isn't the guy. That means that the ZDH line would be intact. We all know Babcock is reluctant to do so unless absolutely necessary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 That means that the ZDH line would be intact. We all know Babcock is reluctant to do so unless absolutely necessary.Not necessarily. I mean it could as well be ZDB and FFH. Does anyone see Filppula as a top six winger possible in the future? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Have we ever seen a Mule-Fil-Homer line before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Have we ever seen a Mule-Fil-Homer line before?Dunno exactly. Of course ZFB and FDH are also possibilities. Didn't we start the season as Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom as our 1st line? Have we seen Zetterberg on Filppula's wing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 AS much as I like Filppula, and believe me I really do, I think the Wings are so much strong with him as the 3rd centre right now. It's not even just about offence either. Filppula is turning into a great defensive centre (with relatively good offensive capabilities too) but right now he's just not at the same level as Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Splitting Datsyuk and Zetterberg up also forces other teams to be mindful of matching their lines up against ours. They have to constantly be weary of one of our big guns being on the ice. To me, if you look around the league and compare Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, and Helm I dont think you can find a team any stronger down the middle. If you stick with that you can fiddle with all the wingers and who is working well with who at any particular time. I like seeing well balanced lines. Cleary and Holmstrom on separate lines. Bertuzzi and Franzen on separate lines. s*** like that That being said, there are times in a game where a Franzen - Zetterberg - Bertuzzi line could be good. Or split by Datsyuk or Filppula. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 To me, if you look around the league and compare Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Filppula, and Helm I dont think you can find a team any stronger down the middle.I think Crosby-Malkin-Staal-Talbot is pretty good. Not to argue against your other points though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 I think Crosby-Malkin-Staal-Talbot is pretty good. Not to argue against your other points though. yeah they are for sure - i guess i was saying we're about as good as it gets or at least right up there at the top Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 He seemed to always show up in the playoffs! We could have a Russian Two! Oh yeah. Opponents like to pummel him, like it makes them look good hitting a player usually smaller than them, but he still seems to have it, and it would most definitely, even if it's only partially bring back some great memories. ...sniff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Datsyuk2Zetterberg 1 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 How does IR and cap hit work? Doesn't putting players on IR lessen the cap burden? If so the Red Wings would have the most reduced cap hit, since about 28 players were out of the line up at one point. Anyways, I wouldn't mind it, but it does seem to hurt the progress of younger players, for another older player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Slava would help our chances with these shootout losses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 id be super shocked if the wings made any moves Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drwscc 212 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 They have to constantly be weary of one of our big guns being on the ice. Our big guns are not so big this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 id be super shocked if the wings made any movesI think it's pretty obvious that Holland is going to make a move of some kind. 5th round picks are better than losing your players for nothing in the waivers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Before all the experts come in here to say how ridiculous this is, I think it would be a decent move. At least to stop the bleeding for a while. I've always had a soft spot for Kozlov, and I think he'd fit in pretty well being one of Pavel's trigger men. I don't know, maybe it's the thought of seeing the old #13 and the new #13 play together, but I think It would be a decent move. Kozlov is still an effective player with a scoring touch. Especially for the cheap cost (relatively). I don't know if this is feasible, but perhaps since Atlanta is rebuilding, Leino and Meech for Kozlov? I'm not sure if Atlanta would want another defenseman. I think that clears the cap space, gives them Leino who might be more comfortable there and if Atlanta still thinks he has potential it would help them. Meech would just be sweetening the deal and to clear more space. I would want Kozlov back. But if it's not Leino-Meech, I don't see how it could happen without us losing too much in return. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoWings1905 2,694 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Not too crazy about the Kozlov rumor. I wouldn't mind Afinogenov or especially Armstrong though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstarsingh 23 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Kozlov is still an effective player with a scoring touch. Especially for the cheap cost (relatively). I don't know if this is feasible, but perhaps since Atlanta is rebuilding, Leino and Meech for Kozlov? I'm not sure if Atlanta would want another defenseman. I think that clears the cap space, gives them Leino who might be more comfortable there and if Atlanta still thinks he has potential it would help them. Meech would just be sweetening the deal and to clear more space. I would want Kozlov back. But if it's not Leino-Meech, I don't see how it could happen without us losing too much in return. I agree with this train of thought however, instead of Meech, send a draft pick. A pick could be more attractive to the Thrashers in many ways. Maybe a 4th? That for any of them. Kozlov, Armstrong, maybe even Afinogenov although I don't think too much of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedWings Gone Wild 6 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 For those saying Kozzy doesn't have it... He is just a season removed from being a ppg player, and the atmosphere in Atlanta, with Kovy rumors all season, isn't that fun to play in I imagine. He's always had a lot of ups and down, and with a change of scenery back to a legit team, I think Kozzy would shine again. I would love to have him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 He's only played like 4 playoff games since he left here. Also, he's 38 years old. Not much long term potential there. I enjoyed rooting for him in Detroit, but this is not going to solve anything for us. We have scoring depth on paper, it just doesn't show up on the ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmamolo 287 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 I just dont think Kozlov and his ~$3.7M cap hit is what we're looking for. As mentioned before I think from the Thrashers Afinoganov is a much better fit for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dobbles 252 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 How does IR and cap hit work? Doesn't putting players on IR lessen the cap burden? If so the Red Wings would have the most reduced cap hit, since about 28 players were out of the line up at one point. Anyways, I wouldn't mind it, but it does seem to hurt the progress of younger players, for another older player. LTIR allows teams to bring someone on the team that can 'replace' an injured persons salary. however, if you bring someone in for less salary, you do not get to accumulate that cap savings for later in the year. thats one of the reasons the wings had to just stick with callups because had they made a move earlier in the year to bring people in, then once players returned, they would have had major cap problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HOCKEY MATTERS 167 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 Would he and Dats have to share #13? I have (and still wear) Kozlov's #13 sweater. I'd love to get him back on the Wings. I thought it was a mistake to let him go in the first place. Sorry Kozzy, ya gotta pick another number... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finnish Wing 110 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 I just dont think Kozlov and his ~$3.7M cap hit is what we're looking for. As mentioned before I think from the Thrashers Afinoganov is a much better fit for us.Afinogenov is probably also much harder to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pucks 66 Report post Posted February 5, 2010 3-5 years ago this might have made sense. Now? He plays softer than Williams and is not going to help us. He's not going to be effective at even strength in the top 6. Not suited for a role in the bottom 6. So what's the point? Some of you guys don't watch other games around this league. A big NO THANKS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites