egroen 384 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Zetterberg just is not good on the shootouts. I don't have his stats, if someone wants to post them... But I have to think either Bertuzzi or Franzen would be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yak19 303 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Drew Miller and i am seriously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) At this point Al Sobotka would do better. Edited February 10, 2010 by wings87 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Yeah, I'd also put in Bertuzzi or Franzen. However, this team just stinks at shootouts, period. When our shooters do well, the goalie sucks, and when the goalie does well, the shooters can't make a single goal. Kind of like the team right now. Just can't put it all together at the same time. Flip could be another guy to try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Has Datsyuk been legitimately stopped on a shootout attempt this year? It seems like every time he doesn't score its because he misses the net. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings_Toledo 233 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 I can understand putting him in the top three because he is one of the best players on the team, but I wouldn't mind seeing Babcock take a chance with someone like, say, Lidstrom for the 3rd or 4th shooter. If for nothing else, at least to surprise the goaltender. On a sidenote: it's great having Williams back for the shootout alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Has Datsyuk been legitimately stopped on a shootout attempt this year? It seems like every time he doesn't score its because he misses the net. Based on that, Draper, Helm and Cleary have never been legitimately stopped on a breakaway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Based on that, Draper, Helm and Cleary have never been legitimately stopped on a breakaway. is that a yes then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 is that a yes then? How do I know? I was just stepping in to make a well timed joke. My guess would be that he has been stopped by someone, as I seem to recollect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 How do I know? I was just stepping in to make a well timed joke. My guess would be that he has been stopped by someone, as I seem to recollect. Well this discussion may not tell us whether Datsyuk can be stopped by goalies on the shootout, but it has revealed that Babs needs to put Draper, Helm, and Cleary into the top three shootout slots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Has Datsyuk been legitimately stopped on a shootout attempt this year? It seems like every time he doesn't score its because he misses the net. Datsyuk rarely gets stopped when he goes for a deke.... but there was a stretch where he shot a lot (last year), and he was stonewalled quite a bit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Well this discussion may not tell us whether Datsyuk can be stopped by goalies on the shootout, but it has revealed that Babs needs to put Draper, Helm, and Cleary into the top three shootout slots. Amen to that. After the first two miss the net, the goalie would relax when the 3rd shooter would come expecting him to also miss. That's when Cleary will do that patented slapshot of his. Also, Howard would go into shut down mode and be better, knowing that we would be less likely to score. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 I don't blame Zetty that much it could be they have Ozzie as the SO practice goalie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lanzorz 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Based on that, Draper, Helm and Cleary have never been legitimately stopped on a breakaway. Thanks for making my night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yellowknife Redwing 57 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 (edited) I have absolutely no idea why Babcock stopped using Bertuzzi in the shootout. Next to Pav, he's the only player on our roster that looks consistently dangerous and regularly changes things up to keep the goalie guessing. Bertuzzi has also looked excellent on clean cut breakaways this season. Williams snuck a nice move in tonight, but Hank has just been a disaster for most of the season. If it were up to me our shootout lineup would be Bertuzzi, Datsyuk, Franzen (in that order) for right now. Edited February 10, 2010 by Yellowknife Redwing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kwame_Kilpatrick 0 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 z has lost his confidence i think, he is not agressive going to the net anymore. maybe he is forgeting to use his tricks, why would he just shoot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 I have absolutely no idea why Babcock stopped using Bertuzzi in the shootout. Next to Pav, he's the only player on our roster that looks consistently dangerous and regularly changes things up to keep the goalie guessing. Bertuzzi has also looked excellent on clean cut breakaways this season. Williams snuck a nice move in tonight, but Hank has just been a disaster for most of the season. If it were up to me our shootout lineup would be Bertuzzi, Datsyuk, Franzen (in that order) for right now. You play the percentages. Williams is around 40%, which is pretty darned good for shootouts, so I'm not shocked he got back into the rotation there. I'm all for sparking a changed in shootouts replacing Zetterberg temporarily, with Flipper or Bertuzzi getting the initial nods for that 3rd spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 I love Hank, but I agree that he isn't the best choice for shootouts. Eaves, Bert, Flip, Miller even. Heck, put Kronner in. He's pretty good if he gets down low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mindfly Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Why is everyone forgetting about Mule, the purest sniper on this team? :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Why is everyone forgetting about Mule, the purest sniper on this team? :/ Because we're so accustomed to life without him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55fan 5,133 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Why is everyone forgetting about Mule, the purest sniper on this team? :/ Oops. <goes off to hang head in shame> Put Mule on my list. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilmickeyli 40 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Not adding mule to the list because it was his first game back.. Do you really think he would've tied the shootout last night? He would've choked as well.. Is it just me or does it always come down to Z and he always f's it up giving us a SO loss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevkrause 1,247 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Not adding mule to the list because it was his first game back.. Do you really think he would've tied the shootout last night? He would've choked as well.. Is it just me or does it always come down to Z and he always f's it up giving us a SO loss? SO is one of the few areas that an injury break doesn't hurt you - you don't lose your hands..................... Franzen should have been in the SO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travis 576 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 SO is one of the few areas that an injury break doesn't hurt you - you don't lose your hands..................... Franzen should have been in the SO I was hoping to see him, imagining that if we would've actually maintained a tie in the shootout that he would've been up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted February 10, 2010 Lately, the game summary of a shootout reads like the contestants in a beauty pageant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
