NHL Rule Change Thoughts while following Olympics

[SouthernWingsFan 854]

Learning some of the Olympics rules and watching some of the games made me wonder the following...

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season, even though the Wings have stunk at them this year overall. I actually think the NHL 1ups the Olympics rules in this one. I don't like how you can use the same shooter over and over again after 3. I'd rather you use somebody only once. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing shootouts being expanded to best-of-5 if they still continue to be around.

No-Touch Icing - Doesn't really matter to me if this is enacted in the NHL or not. No opinion on it one way or another.

NHL Standings - I'm all for going back to a win-loss-tie format, but if they stay with the shootout, do what they do in the Olympics right now. Less points for a win after regulation. I'd go even further. Three points for a win in regulation, two in overtime, one in a shootout, and zero points for a loss - no questions asked. No dinky point awarded for losing in overtime or a shootout, even though the Wings have had plenty this year.

And it goes without saying that I'd love to expand the ice surface for the NHL, but it won't ruin my day if it doesn't happen.

[ComradeWasabi 109]

Learning some of the Olympics rules and watching some of the games made me wonder the following...

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season, even though the Wings have stunk at them this year overall. I actually think the NHL 1ups the Olympics rules in this one. I don't like how you can use the same shooter over and over again after 3. I'd rather you use somebody only once. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing shootouts being expanded to best-of-5 if they still continue to be around.

No-Touch Icing - Doesn't really matter to me if this is enacted in the NHL or not. No opinion on it one way or another.

NHL Standings - I'm all for going back to a win-loss-tie format, but if they stay with the shootout, do what they do in the Olympics right now. Less points for a win after regulation. I'd go even further. Three points for a win in regulation, two in overtime, one in a shootout, and zero points for a loss - no questions asked. No dinky point awarded for losing in overtime or a shootout, even though the Wings have had plenty this year.

And it goes without saying that I'd love to expand the ice surface for the NHL, but it won't ruin my day if it doesn't happen.

Probably not wise, as it would replicate an issue we have now which is variable-point games in the standings. A game right now is worth 2 or 3 points every night. When the ties were around, every game was worth 2 points, no matter what; either a winner got 2 and the loser 0, or both teams got 1. The Olympic format solves this; every game is worth three points, so we don't see teams with huge numbers of OT losses overtaking teams with more wins, but fewer OT losses. Your proposition again introduces an imbalance and people will of course be screaming and blaming an uneven points system for missing the playoffs.

[Finnish Wing 110]

Probably not wise, as it would replicate an issue we have now which is variable-point games in the standings. A game right now is worth 2 or 3 points every night. When the ties were around, every game was worth 2 points, no matter what; either a winner got 2 and the loser 0, or both teams got 1. The Olympic format solves this; every game is worth three points, so we don't see teams with huge numbers of OT losses overtaking teams with more wins, but fewer OT losses. Your proposition again introduces an imbalance and people will of course be screaming and blaming an uneven points system for missing the playoffs.

The olympic point system is definitely the best IMO. Some people say that you shouldn't get points for losing in OT, but then again it means imbalance and OT loss is better than loss anyway.

[TheOwl 77]

The Olympic shoot-out format sucks. No touch icing is an excellent idea, think about how much time is wasted chasing down the puck during an icing in a game? Maybe up to a minute of wasted hockey over a 60 minute game?

Point format should be:

Regulation/4v4 OT win- 3 points

OT/Reg loss - 0 points

Shootout loss - 1 points

Shootout win - 2 points

Edited February 20, 2010 by TheOwl

[Marty Barry 230]

Rules should be: Win = 2 points

Loss= 0 points

[Marty Barry 230]

Learning some of the Olympics rules and watching some of the games made me wonder the following...

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season, even though the Wings have stunk at them this year overall. I actually think the NHL 1ups the Olympics rules in this one. I don't like how you can use the same shooter over and over again after 3. I'd rather you use somebody only once. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing shootouts being expanded to best-of-5 if they still continue to be around.

No-Touch Icing - Doesn't really matter to me if this is enacted in the NHL or not. No opinion on it one way or another.

NHL Standings - I'm all for going back to a win-loss-tie format, but if they stay with the shootout, do what they do in the Olympics right now. Less points for a win after regulation. I'd go even further. Three points for a win in regulation, two in overtime, one in a shootout, and zero points for a loss - no questions asked. No dinky point awarded for losing in overtime or a shootout, even though the Wings have had plenty this year.

And it goes without saying that I'd love to expand the ice surface for the NHL, but it won't ruin my day if it doesn't happen.

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[j.hoop 64]

good post, i definitely think some of the things could carry over to the nhl and improve the game.

-no touch icing, im absolutely for. rarely do you see someone beat an icing, and even rarer does it turn into something

-no trapezoid, would love to see this come back and see the goalies have free reign behind the net and be able to play the puck more

i think the shootout in the olympics is atrocious, let teams win a game as a team, not a one on one bulls*** affair. cananda definitely breathed a sigh of relief the other night when they got to a shootout and had crosby able to shoot 2 out of 4 times.

[Jwo 7]

Bring back the style of the crease (half circle) that they use in the Olympics.

Edited February 20, 2010 by Jwo

[Dano33 41]

The Olympic shoot-out format sucks. No touch icing is an excellent idea, think about how much time is wasted chasing down the puck during an icing in a game? Maybe up to a minute of wasted hockey over a 60 minute game?

Point format should be:

Regulation/4v4 OT win- 3 points

OT/Reg loss - 0 points

Shootout loss - 1 points

Shootout win - 2 points

I agree with this completely. An OT loss should not be better than a regulation loss. You're still playing hockey, if you lose, you lose. The shootout is supposed to be a tie breaker, then and only then should points be divided between teams.

[Original-Six 254]

You should be able to kick the puck into the net with your skate. I dont get why the NHL didnt change this rule when they were trying to increase scoring.

[Zohan Franzen 18]

You should be able to kick the puck into the net with your skate. I dont get why the NHL didnt change this rule when they were trying to increase scoring.

good point. You can pass the puck with your skate so why should it be illegal to score like that !!

Edited February 20, 2010 by Zohan Franzen

[cmonster 11]

Some Rules I would like to see:

1. No-touch Icing

2. Instead of delay of game penalty for shooting the puck over the glass, change it to a situation where the defending team can't change similar to an icing

3. Eliminate the trapezoid

4. Allow hand passes in all zones

5. Eliminate Shootouts

6. Go back to the W, L, Tie format

7. Make the puck live after it touches the netting

8. Mandatory shields

[RusDRW 155]

You should be able to kick the puck into the net with your skate. I dont get why the NHL didnt change this rule when they were trying to increase scoring.

yes! and start calling it "soccer"!

Meanwhile, are you serious? Just imagine 5-6 players around the crease trying to kick it

[Original-Six 254]

Meanwhile, are you serious? Just imagine 5-6 players around the crease trying to kick it

lol yeah ok i guess that wouldnt be such a good idea

[GMRwings1983 8,803]

Learning some of the Olympics rules and watching some of the games made me wonder the following...

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season, even though the Wings have stunk at them this year overall. I actually think the NHL 1ups the Olympics rules in this one. I don't like how you can use the same shooter over and over again after 3. I'd rather you use somebody only once. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing shootouts being expanded to best-of-5 if they still continue to be around.

No-Touch Icing - Doesn't really matter to me if this is enacted in the NHL or not. No opinion on it one way or another.

NHL Standings - I'm all for going back to a win-loss-tie format, but if they stay with the shootout, do what they do in the Olympics right now. Less points for a win after regulation. I'd go even further. Three points for a win in regulation, two in overtime, one in a shootout, and zero points for a loss - no questions asked. No dinky point awarded for losing in overtime or a shootout, even though the Wings have had plenty this year.

And it goes without saying that I'd love to expand the ice surface for the NHL, but it won't ruin my day if it doesn't happen.

I'd get rid of the shootout altogether and award teams 2 points for a regulation or OT win, and 0 points for a regulation or OT loss. If there's a tie, each team gets 1 point. If you're not good enough to win in regulation or in OT, you don't deserve the 2 points. A tie just suggests that neither team was good enough to win. Nothing wrong with that.

Ironically, if the NHL borrowed the Olympic shootout format, we could just have Datsyuk shoot over and over again. That would help us.

The no-touch icing I've never really had an opinion on. It makes no difference to me what they do with that.

[dragonballgtz 273]

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season

I will disagree with that statement. Individual skill in the way the shootout exposes it should not win a team sport.

I know I am wording it the wrong way but hopefully everyone gets what I am trying to say

[Barrie 900]

I like the no tough icing, and I really like the 3 points for a regulation win, 2 for a OT/SO win, 1 point for losing in the OT/SO, and 0 for a regulation loss.

I can put up with the shootout if all games are worth 3 points. I don't like how Regulation, OT, and SO wins are awarded the same 2 points in the NHL.

[Electrophile 3,554]

Good post.

Learning some of the Olympics rules and watching some of the games made me wonder the following...

Shootouts - I still like them and they have their place in the regular season, even though the Wings have stunk at them this year overall. I actually think the NHL 1ups the Olympics rules in this one. I don't like how you can use the same shooter over and over again after 3. I'd rather you use somebody only once. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing shootouts being expanded to best-of-5 if they still continue to be around.

I hate shootouts. No really, I do. They should be reserved for the All-Star Game Skills Competition and nothing else. That being said, I can't see the NHL doing away with them so if they're going to be around, like you say I'd like to see it taken to best of 5. I do not however, think you should reuse shooters.

No-Touch Icing - Doesn't really matter to me if this is enacted in the NHL or not. No opinion on it one way or another.

I'd like to see this instituted, myself. As someone else pointed out, it makes no sense to have to go chase down a puck especially if you're the closest person on your team to it and you're at the other end of the ice.

NHL Standings - I'm all for going back to a win-loss-tie format, but if they stay with the shootout, do what they do in the Olympics right now. Less points for a win after regulation. I'd go even further. Three points for a win in regulation, two in overtime, one in a shootout, and zero points for a loss - no questions asked. No dinky point awarded for losing in overtime or a shootout, even though the Wings have had plenty this year.

Complete agreement here. I have stated here before that I think no points should be awarded if you lose the game, regardless of when but if the league won't abolish the shootout and go back to win-loss-tie, then I would be behind something similar to what you suggested.

And it goes without saying that I'd love to expand the ice surface for the NHL, but it won't ruin my day if it doesn't happen.

I have no real take on this, because I don't know how going from smaller to larger rinks or vice versa affects the style of play. Maybe I haven't watched enough international competition to see if there's a distinct difference between the way they play there and the way they play on the regulation-sized rinks.

[CopenhagenWing 38]

Rules should be: Win = 2 points

Loss= 0 points

Nah, that would be too simple...

[Electrophile 3,554]

Nah, that would be too simple...

That's initially what I had suggested in a thread a few weeks back, but I had a number of people tell me that it either didn't make any sense or it would be too hard for the league to implement. I don't know why, but that's what they felt. Personally, I DO think it should be that way, whether the league abandons the shootout and returns to the tie or if they keep the shootout, but that's just me.

[55fan 5,133]

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Nice post.

Those who have nothing to say sometimes find an overwhelmingly stupid way of saying it.

In other news:

I like the 3-point system. I'm all for the games being worth the same number of points, whether it is 2 or 3.

Get rid of the trapezoid.

Yes, please to no-touch icing.

I'm not sure that the larger ice would be enough of an advantage to retrofit all of the rinks. Maybe new arena should be made so that they can be modified, and once all teams are in a new arena, then go for it. I'm thinking around 2045.

[Marty Barry 230]

Nice post.

Those who have nothing to say sometimes find an overwhelmingly stupid way of saying it.

In other news:

I like the 3-point system. I'm all for the games being worth the same number of points, whether it is 2 or 3.

Get rid of the trapezoid.

Yes, please to no-touch icing.

I'm not sure that the larger ice would be enough of an advantage to retrofit all of the rinks. Maybe new arena should be made so that they can be modified, and once all teams are in a new arena, then go for it. I'm thinking around 2045.

Thanks Einstein.

[55fan 5,133]

Thanks Einstein.

Your welcome.

Also, I meant to add to the last post that I think a team should have to go through the whole roster (except the backup goalie) before repeating shooters in the shoot-out.

[Buppy 1,720]

IMO, if they aren't going to have ties, we shouldn't have points. A win is a win; a loss is a loss. Regulation wins aren't necessarily 'better' than an OT win, any more than road wins are better than home wins, or blowouts better than close games, or wins against better teams better than wins against bad teams.

[Marty Barry 230]

Your welcome.

Also, I meant to add to the last post that I think a team should have to go through the whole roster (except the backup goalie) before repeating shooters in the shoot-out.

I agree with that. Not just because I can't stand cindy.