RusDRW 155 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) I'm sure they will never trade Getz for Zet alone. That's my opinion. And it basically says that Gets is better than any player in our roster. Are you in favor of this trade? No? Why? Should we add? Edited July 4, 2010 by RusDRW 4 haroldsnepsts, GMRwings1983, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 Um...no? Zetterberg is the better player, and trading him before he starts to decline (and probably even after that) would put a black mark on this franchise in relation to loyalty that would take decades to recover from. 7 Edillac, Shottis, teebo and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RusDRW 155 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 Um...no? Zetterberg is the better player, Why do you think so? I qwould say that Gatz is way better Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DMAC 25 18 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 Why do you think so? I qwould say that Gatz is way better what are you on right now? i want some haha that would be the stupidest trade in red wings history 10 Quanno, Hockeymom1960, Shottis and 7 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HelmerFan 28 Report post Posted July 4, 2010 (edited) No With out Hanks beard in the playoffs the team would crumble, plus I hate Ryan Getzlaf's face. The dude's face makes me want to slap it. Edited July 4, 2010 by HelmerFan 4 bdavis, Hockey13Playa, Shottis and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 4, 2010 I'm sure they will never trade Getz for Zet alone. That's my opinion. And it basically says that Gets is better than any player in our roster. Are you in favor of this trade? No? Why? Should we add? Umm... no... Datsyuk and Zetterberg are better players than Getzlaf. Why would Anaheim's theoretical unwillingness to trade Getzlaf for any player on our roster establish him as better than all of them? And no, I wouldn't trade Zetterberg for Getzlaf. Zetterberg is a great player and the future captain of the team. 6 Quanno, Casey, TheDetroitRedWings and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) I wouldn't make the trade, but if I was making a new team, you can damn sure bet I'd take Getzlaf over Zetterberg, despite how much I love Z. Edited July 5, 2010 by Z and D for the C 3 Hockey13Playa, redwingsgirlie and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Getzlaf had a much better year than Hank and is a younger player with more potential. Hank is 30 years old and it's doubtful that he hasn't hit his peak already. Hank is better defensively, but Getzlaf is more physical and will only improve defensively. Zetterberg has a tendency now to disappear for stretches at a time. I know people here are biased, but Getzlaf was a better player last year than Zetterberg, and even though Hank has had great seasons in the past, we have to go by the most recent outing and also realize that Getzlaf hasn't hit his prime yet. With that said, I'd keep Hank, because I don't like Getzlaf and wouldn't want to see us trade our future captain away. But as far as who the better player is right now, I say it's Getzlaf, and I don't care if every dumb slappy here negs me for actually being objective. Edited July 5, 2010 by GMRwings1983 7 RedWingfaninCO, Drake_Marcus, 55fan and 4 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diehardredwing19 11 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Zetterberg over Getzlaf anyday getz is awesome but hank is more well rounded all around and btw. hank is 29 not 30 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Um...no? Zetterberg is the better player, and trading him before he starts to decline (and probably even after that) would put a black mark on this franchise in relation to loyalty that would take decades to recover from. This loyalty stuff is Hocum, hockey is a business... loyalty is why we have Draper still and may eat another year of Maltby two guys well past their best before dates. 4 wingsownnhl43, Theophany, Detroit \# 1 Fan and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 I love Z, but Getzlaf is better at just about everything except defence, and he's no slouch. Doesnt matter because Anaheim, nor Detroit would even think about trading either guy. 1 Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 No. 1 Edillac reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Hank has intangibles that Getz can never have. Zetterberg shuts down other teams forwards like no one else in the game, (besides Datsyuk)and still finds a way to score during the playoffs, I don't give a rats ass who has more goals in the regular season, it's the playoffs where I judge the Wings. Let the Ducks chase regular season stats. On your second comment, Nick Lidstrom is still a top five defenseman in the league at 40, and top five of all time, to suggest that Getz is on his best day a top fifteen, maybe a top ten forward in this league to suggest that he is better than any one player on our entire roster is just plain stupid. This is Independance Day not April Fools Day... if you weren't confused about the day, perhaps it's the site, you might find this one more to your liking: A better site for you... 5 syntax, TheDetroitRedWings, Quanno and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Hank has intangibles that Getz can never have. Zetterberg shuts down other teams forwards like no one else in the game, (besides Datsyuk)and still finds a way to score during the playoffs, I don't give a rats ass who has more goals in the regular season, it's the playoffs where I judge the Wings. Let the Ducks chase regular season stats. On your second comment, Nick Lidstrom is still a top five defenseman in the league at 40, and top five of all time, to suggest that Getz is on his best day a top fifteen, maybe a top ten forward in this league to suggest that he is better than any one player on our entire roster is just plain stupid. This is Independance Day not April Fools Day... if you weren't confused about the day, perhaps it's the site, you might find this one more to your liking: A better site for you... Getzlaf is one of the 10 or 15 best forwards in the league. And he's always been great in the playoffs. He owned us in the playoffs two years ago if you haven't forgotten already. And he's won as many Cups as Zetterberg has. It's O.K. to like Zetterberg, but your post made it sound like Getzlaf is slightly better than Dan Cleary. That's the kind of homer bias that's getting annoying around here. Edited July 5, 2010 by GMRwings1983 2 EuroWing and ManLuv4Clears reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 No fricken way. Besides Getzlslap needs some Rogaine. 1 redwingsgirlie reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 5, 2010 This loyalty stuff is Hocum, hockey is a business... loyalty is why we have Draper still and may eat another year of Maltby two guys well past their best before dates. Hah, yeah, because the loyalty this organization shows to its players is NEVER reciprocated, NEVER makes other players want to play in Detroit, and, in general, NEVER pays this organization any dividends. Oh, wait... you're wrong. Yes, the loyalty has its downsides, namely that some longtime players get contracts they may not deserve. However, you're completely oblivious to every intangible if you think that it doesn't have far more upsides than downsides. Getzlaf is one of the 10 or 15 best forwards in the league. It's O.K. to like Zetterberg, but your post made it sound like Getzlaf is slightly better than Dan Cleary. That's the kind of homer bias that's getting annoying around here. Excellent discussion strategy, bud! "YOU'RE WRONG! HE IS ONE OF THE BEST! THAT IS FINAL! YOU ARE A HOMER IF YOU DO NOT AGREE!" Big and wonderful. Have at it, you! 5 henrik40, IILeiBlazeII, Quanno and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Booster313 138 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 (edited) Getzlaf is one of the 10 or 15 best forwards in the league. And he's always been great in the playoffs. He owned us in the playoffs two years ago if you haven't forgotten already. And he's won as many Cups as Zetterberg has. It's O.K. to like Zetterberg, but your post made it sound like Getzlaf is slightly better than Dan Cleary. That's the kind of homer bias that's getting annoying around here. No you interpreted my statement that way. Getz is a great player and a top 15, 10 on his best day but...in my opinion he isn't even on the same level as Z or Dats for that matter. Z and Dats will never win Harts or Rockets, thats not the Wings system. It's not homerism, its called watching hockey and judging the player by more than just their stats column on NHL.com, maybe you do that and you have a different view thats fine, but based on those areas of the game that are subject to interpretation that form the basis of my opinion. Edited July 5, 2010 by Booster313 1 IILeiBlazeII reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thedisappearer 291 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Yeah, I'd probably make that trade. It would be with a heavy heart, and I'd discuss it with Zetts, and Lids for that matter, as well as Mr Illitch, but I'd probably make it. 3 wingsownnhl43, crotty99 and Uncle Danny reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Hah, yeah, because the loyalty this organization shows to its players is NEVER reciprocated, NEVER makes other players want to play in Detroit, and, in general, NEVER pays this organization any dividends. Oh, wait... you're wrong. Yes, the loyalty has its downsides, namely that some longtime players get contracts they may not deserve. However, you're completely oblivious to every intangible if you think that it doesn't have far more upsides than downsides. Excellent discussion strategy, bud! "YOU'RE WRONG! HE IS ONE OF THE BEST! THAT IS FINAL! YOU ARE A HOMER IF YOU DO NOT AGREE!" Big and wonderful. Have at it, you! I've already explained above why I think Getzlaf is a great player. You should have read that before overreacting like a baby. Grow up already King Crymson. 3 crotty99, ManLuv4Clears and stormboy reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
atodaso 279 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 46 goals in 97 playoff games. end of discussion. 1 zettsyukwall415 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 No you interpreted my statement that way. Getz is a great player and a top 15, 10 on his best day but...in my opinion he isn't even on the same level as Z or Dats for that matter. Z and Dats will never win Harts or Rockets, thats not the Wings system. It's not homerism, its called watching hockey and judging the player by more than just their stats column on NHL.com, maybe you do that and you have a different view thats fine, but based on those areas of the game that are subject to interpretation that form the basis of my opinion. You're right when you say stats aren't everything, and we do have a different system, but I just think Getzlaf would dominate no matter what system he was playing in. He's got plenty of intangibles himself. He's not just some scorer who can't do anything else. 46 goals in 97 playoff games. end of discussion. And Getzlaf is apparently Alexei Yashin in the playoffs? He's been a great playoff performer himself, even though he hasn't played as many games as Hank. Jeez are we talking about the same guy, or is this some guy named Getflaf, like the OP wrote? I don't like him either, but let's not make it sound like he sucks or something. I'm guessing most teams in the league would take him over Hank. That's just my opinion, but I'm sticking to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Hah, yeah, because the loyalty this organization shows to its players is NEVER reciprocated, NEVER makes other players want to play in Detroit, and, in general, NEVER pays this organization any dividends. Oh, wait... you're wrong. Yes, the loyalty has its downsides, namely that some longtime players get contracts they may not deserve. However, you're completely oblivious to every intangible if you think that it doesn't have far more upsides than downsides. Nice speech, care to add some substance to that rhetoric? Or are you going to stick to broad assertions that are meaningless to anyone besides you? 2 Detroit \# 1 Fan and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesusberg 1,256 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 I think someone liked the Getzlaf/Ryan skit from the NHL Award Show a little too much... 3 ogreslayer, Hockeymom1960 and RWRNHZ40 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDetroitRedWings 286 Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Zetter is better. 1 RedWingsin2011 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted July 5, 2010 Nice speech, care to add some substance to that rhetoric? Or are you going to stick to broad assertions that are meaningless to anyone besides you? I'm 100% positive that there are a crowd of people on these forums who would agree with my assertions on this matter. 3 Edillac, Electrophile and Drake_Marcus reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
