HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) And also goalie's equipment wasn't the size of a tent either and was more like.... Edited July 21, 2010 by HankthaTank Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Hatethedrake! Report post Posted July 21, 2010 The following Red Wings record will never be broken... NUMBER OF TIMES PER GAME RED WINGS FANS YELL SWEAR WORDS AT A RED WINGS PLAYER...118 CURRENTLY HELD BY JASON WILLIAMS. Actually Williams holds the top 5 records in this category with 110, 103, 100 and 96. 1 asoras reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 A lot of Gretzky's records that are not listed there are pretty unreal. 50 goals in 39 games, 92 goals in a season, 215pts in a season, 1,963 career assists, 163 assists in a season. I don't think Gretzky's are untouchable, to be honest. Right now, they're astounding. But the game evolves so quickly. I'd say his totals could be broken within the next 15 or 20 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,794 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 (edited) The no-brainer answer is Gretzky's point total record. Also, Dave Schultz's 472 PIM's will never be broken, considering how often guys get suspended nowadays for things that wouldn't result in suspensions in those days. Edited July 21, 2010 by GMRwings1983 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kook_10 1,705 Report post Posted July 21, 2010 The no-brainer answer is Gretzky's point total record. Also, Dave Schultz's 472 PIM's will never be broken, considering how often guys get suspended nowadays for things that wouldn't result in suspensions in those days. or Tiger Williams' 3966 career PIM. I have a tough time seeing anyone doing 200 a year for 20 years unless Vince McMahon takes over for Bettman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 The Hammer's single season PIM total is an interesting one.Dan Carcillo had 324 PIM in 2007-2008,but that's the closest anyones gotten in a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titanium2 867 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 or Tiger Williams' 3966 career PIM. I have a tough time seeing anyone doing 200 a year for 20 years unless Vince McMahon takes over for Bettman. I thought that said Tiger Woods and then saw the number 3966 and then thought, "No way I'm sure Wilt Chamberlain has that number beat." 2 55fan and Zeowingsfan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 A lot of Gretzky's records that are not listed there are pretty unreal. 50 goals in 39 games, 92 goals in a season, 215pts in a season, 1,963 career assists, 163 assists in a season. Gretzky would have never touched the goal scoring records had Joe Malone played ~80 game seasons. 44 goals in 20 games, 22 game season? Now that's an untouchable mark. 2.2 GPG over a full season. Also 2.2 PPG because assists were not calculated, which ALSO beats any of Gretzky's marks. If you assume that he had equal assists to goals, which is common for top-end offensive players, that's 88 points in 20 games over a full 22 game season, total 164-164-328 in 75 of 82 games. Absolutely sick. Gretzky would never have been viewed the same. I thought that said Tiger Woods and then saw the number 3966 and then thought, "No way I'm sure Wilt Chamberlain has that number beat." Warren Beatty has 'em all beat....combined. Hell, add Tiger, Stilt, Heff, and everyone else up and Beatty's probably hit all of those girls too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 A lot of Gretzky's records that are not listed there are pretty unreal. 50 goals in 39 games, 92 goals in a season, 215pts in a season, 1,963 career assists, 163 assists in a season. Lemieux was on pace to break Gretzky's 92 and 215 by a wide margin in 1992-93 but had a bout with cancer that caused him to only play 60 games, so he scored 69 goals and 91 assists - pace for 97-127-224 - plus he probably would have scored at a higher rate without the cancer and the missed games. 110 goals and 260 points? 120 goals and 280 points? Who knows...he was just ridiculous that season. Regardless, the most unbreakable records are probably the consecutive games streaks. When you first consider that a player has to play twelve or more consecutive seasons, which means he has to be good enough to not only earn a regular spot but a spot regular enough to not be in danger of being rotated out of the lineup, this means he'll be playing 15-25 minutes per game, plus playoff games. That's a crazy amount of games and minuts per game without missing a game. And then you look at the goaltender consecutive games streak? That's more than six complete seasons, plus playoffs. Fewer than 60 goaltenders in the history of the league have even played that many games in their career, let alone in a row. Gretzky's career records will fall before that one does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 I laugh when sometimes Gretzky's assist total in a season would be more then the person that was second in points. That is some funny s*** right there. No kidding. There were 4 seasons where his assist total alone would have won him the scoring title. This aren't actual recognized records, but Gretzky feats I'm sure will not be reached again: - 5 years in a row winning the scoring title while leading the 2nd place guy by 70+ points - Winning the scoring title by scoring 79 more points than anyone else Just throwing it out there, Gretzky did play in a high scoring era, but he dominated the competition like no other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 The following Red Wings record will never be broken... NUMBER OF TIMES PER GAME RED WINGS FANS YELL SWEAR WORDS AT A RED WINGS PLAYER...118 CURRENTLY HELD BY JASON WILLIAMS. Actually Williams holds the top 5 records in this category with 110, 103, 100 and 96. I can see Leaf fans surpassing that with Lebda before too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisdetroit 189 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Most buffalo wings Gretsky Most goals scored by a single player in a 4 game playoff series. (9) Franzen 2008 against Colorado Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eva unit zero 271 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 No kidding. There were 4 seasons where his assist total alone would have won him the scoring title. This aren't actual recognized records, but Gretzky feats I'm sure will not be reached again: - 5 years in a row winning the scoring title while leading the 2nd place guy by 70+ points - Winning the scoring title by scoring 79 more points than anyone else Just throwing it out there, Gretzky did play in a high scoring era, but he dominated the competition like no other. Lemieux? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toby91_ca 620 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Lemieux? Maybe the closest, but when it comes right down to it, no one dominated the way Gretzky did. You can try to twist and turn everything anyway you want by talking about illness and injuries and what ifs and on pace, etc., but at the end of the day, what you are left for is what actually happened. Lemieux probably the had the potential and skill to challenge some of Gretzky's totals, but he never really did in the end. Lemieux won the scoring title 6 times and the total margin he won by for the 6 years combined was 95pts. That compares to Gretzky's maring of 70+ pts, 5 years in a row and 79pts in a single year. I undestand some of those years Lemieux may have still won the scoring race even missing a ton of games, but like I said, all I can go by at the end of the day is what actually happened. Gretzky probably would have had a lot higher career stats too if he didn't seriously injur his back in the middle of his career. 1 Original-Six reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brett 1,029 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 none of the records can be broken unless they size the goalie pads down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Original-Six 254 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 It pretty funny watching some old clips of goalies try to block slap shots by just trying to kick them out of the air with their feet while standing straight up lol... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
newfy 695 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Both PIM records by the hammer and tiger won't be broken the wya they hand out suspensions and stuff now. And wow Gretz was just unreal, 50 in 39 is pretty much untouchable I would say 1 HankthaTank reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 3,966 PIM..damn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 I couldn't believe there was actually someone who scored 3 goals quicker than Mule did in the game against the Sharks. Was at the game and thought for sure we were seeing some history. It was in fact Wings history though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 I was going nuts when Franzen scored his 3rd that game.Its always good to hear Mickey get excited too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Still a bit skeptical whether Bert touched that first goal. Thought for longest time that he got 4 in the first and found out later. Still the greatest performance I have seen live at a hockey game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Lemieux? Lemieux never scored 200... What boggles my mind is Gretzky *averaged* over 200 pts for 6 full seasons! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egroen 384 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 Lemieux was on pace to break Gretzky's 92 and 215 by a wide margin in 1992-93 but had a bout with cancer that caused him to only play 60 games, so he scored 69 goals and 91 assists - pace for 97-127-224 - plus he probably would have scored at a higher rate without the cancer and the missed games. 110 goals and 260 points? 120 goals and 280 points? Who knows...he was just ridiculous that season. Regardless, the most unbreakable records are probably the consecutive games streaks. When you first consider that a player has to play twelve or more consecutive seasons, which means he has to be good enough to not only earn a regular spot but a spot regular enough to not be in danger of being rotated out of the lineup, this means he'll be playing 15-25 minutes per game, plus playoff games. That's a crazy amount of games and minuts per game without missing a game. And then you look at the goaltender consecutive games streak? That's more than six complete seasons, plus playoffs. Fewer than 60 goaltenders in the history of the league have even played that many games in their career, let alone in a row. Gretzky's career records will fall before that one does. One of Gretzky's seasons he was on pace for about 240 Pts through a similar amount of games. The grind definitely takes a toll. Lemieux was incredible but the 'difference' between Gretzky and Lemiuex would be one of the greatest players of all-time (5 harts, 2 cups, 5 scoring titles, etc...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kira 451 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) I honestly don't think Glenn Hall's record will ever come close to being broken. Goalies are not expected to be such iron men these days. My housemate came up with one too...Bobby Orr's plus-minus record of a +136 for a season. Edited July 22, 2010 by Kira Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lightthelamp13 0 Report post Posted July 22, 2010 all of these records will fall before somebody even gets 70% to +124 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
