Babcock to Change Defense Pairings
#1
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:02 PM
Link
#2
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:08 PM
edit: a more substantial link here: http://www.freep.com...ensive-pairings
Edited by Echolalia, 17 September 2010 - 12:09 PM.
#3
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:09 PM
Brian McGrattan 2013. Get it done Kenny.
#5
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:26 PM
Thank-you Mike.
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#7
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:29 PM
Stuart and Lidstrom are the best defensive defensemen on the team, and Kronwall and Rafalski had some defensive issues last year.
Spreading the wealth might actually be a great plan.

#8
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:32 PM
#10
Posted 17 September 2010 - 12:35 PM
#11
Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:03 PM
The old pairings needed work and you could see it during games last year.I'm always hesitant to change something that works, and the old pairings have worked fine for us. However, I do think that these new pairings will work really well. It gives the top two pairings one offensive-minded guy (Lidstrom and Rafalski) and one tougher, more physical guy (Kronwall and Stuart). I'm not sure about the Ericsson with Salei. They're both solid players, but as far as I can tell, neither are particularly mobile.
Lids-Ericsson
Raf- Stuart
Kronwall- Salei
I think its past time to let Kronwall have a little more offensive freedom.
#12
Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:14 PM
The old pairings needed work and you could see it during games last year.
Lids-Ericsson
Raf- Stuart
Kronwall- Salei
I think its past time to let Kronwall have a little more offensive freedom.
Are those the lines that you would like to see? Or what you expect to see?
#13
Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:22 PM
Edited by stevkrause, 17 September 2010 - 01:22 PM.
All I have to say about Holland and our off-season:
and finally
Holland is a damn good GM. period.
#14
Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:32 PM
My money on the board pledge:
$1 for each goal scored by a player after whom I have named a hamster.
An additional $5 for each hat trick scored by a player after whom I have named a hamster.
An additional $10 if any of the above goals is the GWG goal that gives us the series win.
An additional $50 if it is the GWG that wins us the Cup.
$5 for a SO by Jimmy.
Hamsters' names (current players in RED): Henrik Pavel Tomas Nicklas Dominik
Niklas Matthieu Daniel Robert
Johan Andreas Valtteri Jonathan
Andrew Patrick Ian Todd
And introducing: Jordin Damien Gustav James
TOTAL SO FAR: $27
#15
Posted 17 September 2010 - 01:51 PM
To be honest I kinda see the Lidstrom/Ericsson pairing as having the same results as to what we had seen in 2006 when Lidstrom was paired with Lilja.The old pairings needed work and you could see it during games last year.
Lids-Ericsson
Raf- Stuart
Kronwall- Salei
I think its past time to let Kronwall have a little more offensive freedom.
I'd much rather see Lids/Kronner, Stewie/Rafs, and Eric/Sal as our pairings.

#16
Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:11 PM
#17
Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:28 PM
Kronwall isn't getting paid $3 mil to play on the bottom pair.
What is your definition of bottom pair? Is it someone who plays against other teams' worst offensive lines? If so, then I agree: Kronwall isn't getting paid to play on the bottom pair.
If your definition refers to defensmen who will play 8-10 minutes tops in a game, then I have to bring up that Babs is insisting that all defensmen average out to about 20 min per game this year so young guys can develop and old guys won't get worn out come playoff time.
#18
Posted 17 September 2010 - 02:46 PM
Now that this may happen and Lebda is gone! I am ready to celebrate here.
#19
Posted 17 September 2010 - 03:10 PM
Are there any other teams who run 3 pairs at 20mins per pair in the NHL?What is your definition of bottom pair? Is it someone who plays against other teams' worst offensive lines? If so, then I agree: Kronwall isn't getting paid to play on the bottom pair.
If your definition refers to defensmen who will play 8-10 minutes tops in a game, then I have to bring up that Babs is insisting that all defensmen average out to about 20 min per game this year so young guys can develop and old guys won't get worn out come playoff time.
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#20
Posted 17 September 2010 - 03:28 PM
Are there any other teams who run 3 pairs at 20mins per pair in the NHL?
Probably not, but we have the depth to do it, so why not? It's not a guarantee that they will all play exactly 20 minutes each night either. It may average out to that, but if we're in a close game in the 3rd period and Lidstrom has already played 20 minutes, Babcock wont care - he's going back in.
I think this could be a good thing for this team as it means the older guys get plenty of rest, and the young guys get more minutes than they would on most teams, which will only help their development. By young guys I am referring to Ericsson and Kindl and/or Smith if they get called up.
Edited by TNBT, 17 September 2010 - 03:30 PM.
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