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#61 JasonNewEra

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:06 AM

Same as last year, 2nd round out. If we're lucky? Championship out. At least the way we are playing right now. They have done nothing defensively to make me think otherwise right now. They will ramp it up come playoffs sure, but they did the same for last year and got out of Phoenix with a little luck. San Jose killed us, and I think it'll happen again.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:21 AM

Same as last year, 2nd round out. If we're lucky? Championship out. At least the way we are playing right now. They have done nothing defensively to make me think otherwise right now. They will ramp it up come playoffs sure, but they did the same for last year and got out of Phoenix with a little luck. San Jose killed us, and I think it'll happen again.

We're too old, and we're nowhere near consistent enough right now to make a real Cup run. Shake up needed in the summer? Bet your ass.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:27 AM

This phoenix game tonight made me convinced this team is not ready for a cup run this year. 1st or 2nd round exit is coming. :(.
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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:03 AM

A key factor in winning the Cup is holding leads. If they are having this much trouble holding leads, I don't see them getting out of the second round. Seems like they had this problems during last years playoff as well. Cost them some important wins.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 01:31 AM

A key factor in winning the Cup is holding leads. If they are having this much trouble holding leads, I don't see them getting out of the second round. Seems like they had this problems during last years playoff as well. Cost them some important wins.

That was only the 4th time in 27 games the Wings blew a third period lead (the third being Anaheim). All the losses in OT/SO. Hardly a problem I would say.

Besides, regular season performance means very little in the playoffs.

We have enough talent/skill to beat anyone. Like always, if we play well, we'll go far and probably win it all. If we play less than our best we won't.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:11 AM

I think they could win the Cup if they really want to, but the way they have started down the regular season stretch...:puke:

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:47 AM

Besides, regular season performance means very little in the playoffs.


Yes, you're right. I'm just a little frustrated after seeing that 4-1 lead get blown like it was nothing, by a Phx team on a 5 game losing streak. Oh well, water under the bridge as every regular season game is up to this point.

I guess I should have said if they continue their current play, it will be an early exit. But, I know they will turn it on come April.

Edited by bd2988, 06 March 2011 - 06:50 AM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 08:55 AM

I knew after this game against Phoenix that this post would explode with pessimism. First off, this game has nothing to do with the playoffs. When Game 1 of the first round starts, blowing a 4-1 lead to the Coyotes won't matter. Second, pointing at this saying this is why they won't win the Stanley Cup is ridiculous. The Wings do this all the freaking time. If they have a 3-1 lead, they keep putting the pressure on and try to get another goal. As soon as they go up 4-1, they quit playing and sit back on defense. The strength of this team's defense isn't sitting back, breaking up passes, blocking shots, etc. Its puck possession and keeping the puck down at the other end.

I remember them blowing a game like this in 2003 against Vancouver with Cujo. 3-0 lead, quit playing and Van came back and won. It happened in the 2008 playoffs against Colorado. Wings are up 4-1 and it comes down to Osgood making a huge save on the doorstep in the final seconds to secure the win. It unfortunately happens, but that doesn't make them less likely to win the Cup. They don't need to play their best hockey till April-May-June. They were red hot last March and got knocked out in the 2nd round. How well they're playing now is irrelevant.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 09:35 AM

We're too old, and we're nowhere near consistent enough right now to make a real Cup run. Shake up needed in the summer? Bet your ass.

This is as close to a shake-up as I can see...

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 12:28 PM

I think I'm going to got the pessimistic route for now. Usually we see the team start really slow and stupid. Then they build momentum and dominate, like flipping the STFU switch. Last night we saw them dominate then flip "off" the switch. Maybe the boys don't want a bullseye on their backs right now. If they are absolutely owning everyone they face they'll sustain unnecessary injuries? They are "saving" themselves for the Prom?

The alternative train of thought is that they are lazy and they suck.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 04:46 PM

96-97 My First FULL Season I really didn't know what to expect I was just getting into hockey and the Detroit Red Wings and they won so I was instantly hooked.

97-98 Was quite a bitter pill to take with what happened to Vladdy and everything and all that happening not long after they won the Cup so I really Wanted them to do it again but did really expect it.

98-99 Getting Chelly and Wendel Clark and all plus still being young and dumb I thought of nothing but at 3-Peat boy I was wrong.

99-00 Didn't reall expect much, I was hoping they could at least do decent but really wasn't thinking about a Cup

00-01 A HELL season for me. I was very much interested in Minor League Hockey and my favorite team the Muskeogn Fury and when my favorite player (Goalie) Joe Dimaline was traded to our arch rival the Quad City Mallards but as for the Red Wings I was starting to get hungry again for a Cup and when the Wings blew a 2-0 Series Lead against the LA Kings and lost 4 games in a row to be eliminated it hurt. When Adam Deadmarsh put that goal in in OT of Game 6 my heart sank and I prepared myself for another Championship-less season.

01-02 Went from Hell to Heaven in just one season my favorite non Red Wings Goalie Dominik Hasek had signed a deal with my favorite NHL Team the Detroit Red Wings with the addition of Brett Hull and Lucky Luc Robitalle I was re-energized and revamped and had Huge High Expectations and the Wings Delievered!! Lord Stanley was back in MoTown!!!!

02-03 Hasek's gone but felt the Wings are still great contenders and the Ducks took them out early. Was thinking that Cujo desereved much better for his first season as a Wing

03-04 If I'm not mistake Luc is gone this season but Brett Hull and the core of the team is still very well intact so I felt confident the Wings could still be up there. The Flames burnt them.

04-05 Probably the season I really felt the Wings were going to do it again and the season gets canceled.

05-06 No season last season so I was still expecting the team to do well and at least make the Conference Finals... The Oilers struck gold against the Wings.

06-07 The hunger was back the season before now it was even stronger but injuries in the playoffs crippled my hopes and the Ducks did it again. At least this time we lost to the Stanley Cup Champs.

07-08 Ozzie and Hasek are both playing really strong and the team is doing well. Got pretty nervous when the Preds tied up the Series in the 1st round and Hasek took a back seat to the Wizard of Oz and the man delieverd another Stanley Cup Championship!! Got emotional after the 3 OT's Goal scored by Sykora in Game 5 but got even more emotinal in Game 6. It felt like a huge weight was lifted right off me. That was a great summer for me!!

08-09 Once the team made it back to the Stanley Cup Finals against Pittsburgh again I wasn't all that confident I remember alot of posts on here and a lot of great words from all you members on here that helped me out. Hard fought series and a Game 7, this one still stings even now. It's almost funny becuase the summer before when we won the Cup I kept saying that the Pens Cup was coming soon becasue I really felt that Pittsburgh had a great team I just didn't know it would happen so soon and aganist us. OUCH!!

09-10 I saw Helm go into the boards hard head first in Training Camp and have to be helped off the Ice I knew than it wasn't going to be a good season for us

10-11 This season my expectations are fairly high, I have have a lot of concerns and question marks in my head about this team. Wings are a strong team but I really feel they need to work on Special Teams especailly the Power Play and also clamping it down defensivly and holding onto leads once they get them. Last night against Phoenix was horrible IMO. The 1st and 2nd was fine/decent but things quickly went to hell in a handbasket and the Wings let 1 Point slip away. I still think they can be strong contenders and if they can just fix a few things they can go far. I guess we'll see. Let's Go Red Wings!!

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:01 PM

Is anyone else tired of reading "things will be different in the playoffs", etc? I know I sure am.

These games do matter, regardless of all the people that say they don't. There is absolutely no excuse for the loss last night. When I left for work, they were up 4-1. I got to work and turned on the tube and saw it was a shootout! I couldn't believe what I was seeing! Then I saw the highlights of how the game got tied up.....well, I'll keep my thoughts on that to myself. After the 3rd period meltdown against the Kings, I figured that would have been enough of a wake up call to make sure that didn't happen again. Boy was I wrong.

I can see one or two meltdowns a season...every team has them over the course of 82 games. However, this Wings team is flopping like that way too much to not be very concerned. Instead of finishing off an easy win against a conference and playoff foe, they chocked hard and let the Coyotes accumulate 2 more points to their playoff position. Every game against a Western Conference playoff contender is very important, especially this time of year.

I can't for the life of me understand how a team as talented as the Wings can be so great one night, then suck so horrible the next. There is absolutely no dispute that the Wings may be one of, if not the most talented team in the league right now. Obviously there is something going on, aside from coaching like everyone seems to blame, in which the Wings are lacking severely this year. Call it drive, chemistry, heart, whatever. Whatever it is, it's not present right now. And if the Wings have any desire to be a Cup contender (which is certainly debatable from their play this season), they better sit down and reevaluate some things or this is going to be a VERY short playoff run.

That game last night was beer league horse s*** if I've ever seen it. I love the Wings and want them to do well as bad as everyone else, but that game last night left me the most disgusted I've been regarding a Wings game is a very long time.

I'm going to end my disgusted rant with a quote from Babcock regarding last night. I think it sums it up quite perfectly:

"There gets to be a point in your season where you've got to decide if you think you're a championship-caliber team. There is a right way to play, and unless you get 23 guys doing it the same way, nothing is going to happen."

Edited by Copenhagen848, 06 March 2011 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:09 PM

how can people say we will all of a sudden be good in the playoffs?


are we gunna magically stop being soft?

#74 mjtm77

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:18 PM

how can people say we will all of a sudden be good in the playoffs?


are we gunna magically stop being soft?

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:13 PM

Home ice advantage would be nice. Hopefully they get a weaker team to start with in the playoffs so they don't have to drain all of their energy in the first round.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 06:22 PM

how can people say we will all of a sudden be good in the playoffs?


are we gunna magically stop being soft?


Yup. It generally happens that way.

Is anyone else tired of reading "things will be different in the playoffs", etc? I know I sure am.


Well, things almost always have turned out differently in the playoffs.

I know you're angry that the Wings haven't been so dominant as to erase from your mind any possibility that you may end up disappointed, but maybe you'll at least look into the past for data.

Edited by Crymson, 06 March 2011 - 06:23 PM.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:07 PM

how can people say we will all of a sudden be good in the playoffs?


are we gunna magically stop being soft?

that is the script a typical Wings fan follows.... "Guys it's only Decemeber..." "...Wait until we're healthy...(with the same guys every year being hurt (seems like it)" "...our powerplay is our enforcer..." "...just wait until the playoffs..."

Some years they're right, but if the Wings cannot stop having third period collapses and start playing defense and STOP giving up 4 goals a game, Stanley Cup Champ chances are slim to none and slim has one foot out the door...

I only hope that if they fail again, McCrimmon is not back for another season.

Remember the old days when the D was so good that "your gramma" could play goalie and win? Those days are gone, Howard can only do so much, he is doing great but gets left out to dry on a nightly basis! Could you imagine Howard on the 1990's and early 2000's squads? He'd be, well he'd be Chris Osgood! :ninja:

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:09 PM

idc if they pick it up in the playoffs, there are 20,000 fans in the joe everynight that paid to watch them give it their all on the ice.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:34 PM

idc if they pick it up in the playoffs, there are 20,000 fans in the joe everynight that paid to watch them give it their all on the ice.

FINALLY !!!! Someone who understands! I am tired of the games in Dec-Feb being played at a cruise control level or players not being able to play because of a broken pinky! Great fans pay HUGE amounts of money to go watch players who make multi-millions play like they make $40,000... I went to watch the High School Hockey States between Wyandotte and Farminton last night, now those are players playing for pride! (and it only cost $5!) and it was 1000 times more enjoyable than watching the Wings blow another league and play with no heart when I got home! I actually turned off Underworld: Rise of the Lycan to watch that crappy game! :lol:

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 07:48 PM

I know you're angry that the Wings haven't been so dominant as to erase from your mind any possibility that you may end up disappointed, but maybe you'll at least look into the past for data.


I can't comment on this, because I have absolutely no idea what this is supposed to mean. I think you were trying to say something intelligent in a smart-ass sort of way?

Please don't bother responding.





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