Guest blueadams Report post Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/05/red_wings_kris_draper_will_pla.html Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi Hudler-Filppula-Abdelkader Draper-Helm-Eaves Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Rafalski Kronwall-Salei Howard MacDonald ...I'm not a big fan. That second line isn't going to score any goals. It's going to be the Zetterberg-Show, with no help. That third line (or some variation of it, at least) has been used time and time again, and it hasn't worked, and it's not going to work. And I continue to be baffled by Bab's refusal to split Pav and Mule, regardless of how much less chemistry they have than Pav and Flip, or even Pav and Huds. I'd go: Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom...Pav and Flip have insane chemistry, and Flip's not contributing on the third line. Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary...Proven old favorite. Modano-Abdelkader-Bertuzzi...Still a checking line, but with a little more scoring potential (and hunger). Draper-Helm-Eaves...Solid, obviously. Hudler Miller Edited May 3, 2011 by blueadams 3 lookalive07, Namingway and Z and D for the C reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) I actually like these lines. They've worked before, because it's similar to what we had last series, except Hank has taken Abby's place on the 2nd line, and Abby has replaced Miller with Flip and Hudler. This will hopefully work like it did against the Jets. However, I am a little surprised to see Modano not in. I wouldn't mind dressing him in place of Hudler for a game. Edited May 3, 2011 by GMRwings1983 1 henrik40 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hillbillywingsfan 794 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) I actually like these lines. They've worked before, because it's similar to what we had last series, except Hank has taken Abby's place on the 2nd line, and Abby has replaced Miller with Flip and Hudler. This will hopefully work like it did against the Jets. However, I am a little surprised to see Modano not in. I wouldn't mind dressing him in place of Hudler for a game. I just don't get why he is not being used any. I mean i understand he is slower then he use to be but come on. the way abby and some of the others have been playing i don't see the harm in just seeing. Edited May 3, 2011 by hillbillywingsfan 2 Frozen-Man and Hockeymom1960 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 I'd go: Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom...Pav and Flip have insane chemistry, and Flip's not contributing on the third line. Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary...Proven old favorite. Modano-Abdelkader-Bertuzzi...Still a checking line, but with a little more scoring potential (and hunger). Draper-Helm-Eaves...Solid, obviously. Hudler Miller I agree.... whoa! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted May 3, 2011 I agree.... whoa! either i'm getting smarter or you're getting dumber 6 Hockeymom1960, GoWings1905, HankthaTank and 3 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HankthaTank 1,100 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Waaayyyyy too many of your threads that lead to have endorsed this thinking.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Heaten Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Holmstrom shouldn't be on the 1st line. He's only good on the PP. Why not Flip-Dats-Huds on the first line? Or put one of Cleary/Bertuzzi and put Hudler with Zetterberg? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hooon 1,089 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 I don't mind the lines, but I think Modano should be given a shot. My problem is that regardless of what lines they practice with, by the end of the game they'll be all shaken up. IMO its going to be hard to develop any consistent chemistry with the lines constantly changing. Hopefully these work and we can go with them. Go Wings! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest blueadams Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Holmstrom shouldn't be on the 1st line. He's only good on the PP. Why not Flip-Dats-Huds on the first line? Or put one of Cleary/Bertuzzi and put Hudler with Zetterberg? and his presence alone kills a 3rd or 4th line. if you want to roll three lines with specialist subs, you can take him off the first line (which I'd support). but that's certainly not babs' style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dropkickshanahans 463 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 I actually like these lines. They've worked before, because it's similar to what we had last series, except Hank has taken Abby's place on the 2nd line, and Abby has replaced Miller with Flip and Hudler. This will hopefully work like it did against the Jets. However, I am a little surprised to see Modano not in. I wouldn't mind dressing him in place of Hudler for a game. I'd rather Modano replace Cleary for a game. Cleary's been our worst player in these playoffs so far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpIkE 17 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Franzen and Datsyuk together? Getting sick of this pairing I really dunno what Babs sees in it.... doubt we'll see any production from first line. 2nd line is not bad looking, I can see the potential there. 3rd line no comment. Edited May 3, 2011 by SpIkE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Modano has been the biggest waste of a signing ever. Why did we even bother if we werent gonna see what he had come playoff time? This is the perfect time to get him in for Abby/Hudler and he'll still sit. At least Drapes is back in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 anybody else think "splitting up datsyuk and zetterberg" as our ace-in-the-hole is kinda lame? i don't know what else to do at this point, but something definitely is broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozen-Man 144 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 I just don't get why he is not being used any. I mean i understand he is slower then her use to be but come on. the way abby and some of the others have been playing i don't see the harm in just seeing. I agree. I think Modano is hungry to prove he still has it and can contribute to the team and it might light a fire under whomever they sit when they come back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Cleary and Zetterberg in playoff mode will do wonders, especially if Bertuzzi steps up the hitting. I think this will be just what Z and Clears need. anybody else think "splitting up datsyuk and zetterberg" as our ace-in-the-hole is kinda lame? i don't know what else to do at this point, but something definitely is broken. Not really, because theoretically, San Jose can't counter it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonballgtz 273 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) Now if only they let in Mo for Hudler and Mursak for Bert I would be happy. anybody else think "splitting up datsyuk and zetterberg" as our ace-in-the-hole is kinda lame? i don't know what else to do at this point, but something definitely is broken. Considering how non-existent our depth has been I don't see why he didn't do it in game 2. Edited May 3, 2011 by dragonballgtz 1 Aussie_Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lookalive07 251 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2011/05/red_wings_kris_draper_will_pla.html Franzen-Datsyuk-Holmstrom Cleary-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi Hudler-Filppula-Abdelkader Draper-Helm-Eaves Lidstrom-Stuart Ericsson-Rafalski Kronwall-Salei Howard MacDonald ...I'm not a big fan. That second line isn't going to score any goals. It's going to be the Zetterberg-Show, with no help. That third line (or some variation of it, at least) has been used time and time again, and it hasn't worked, and it's not going to work. And I continue to be baffled by Bab's refusal to split Pav and Mule, regardless of how much less chemistry they have than Pav and Flip, or even Pav and Huds. I'd go: Filppula-Datsyuk-Holmstrom...Pav and Flip have insane chemistry, and Flip's not contributing on the third line. Franzen-Zetterberg-Cleary...Proven old favorite. Modano-Abdelkader-Bertuzzi...Still a checking line, but with a little more scoring potential (and hunger). Draper-Helm-Eaves...Solid, obviously. Hudler Miller For once I'm not going to be a dick and say that either of these lineups actually make sense. Maybe it's just because Dats and Zets should definitely be split up and I agree with a bunch of different combinations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sputman 1,268 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 Cleary and Zetterberg in playoff mode will do wonders, especially if Bertuzzi steps up the hitting. I think this will be just what Z and Clears need. Not really, because theoretically, San Jose can't counter it. yeah, but theories don't really work that well in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mors 201 Report post Posted May 3, 2011 As much as the Wings coaching staff has been lamenting the lack of powerplay point men lately (outside of Lidstrom/Rafalski) I really don't understand why Babcock isn't going to put Modano in tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Copenhagen848 58 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) I, along with many others, am disappointed that Modano is not in the lineup in Hudler's place. Edited May 4, 2011 by Copenhagen848 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,804 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 It may be time to bust out the Triple-H line. Hudler/Helm/Holmstrom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 Babs must have closed his eyes in the shifts Dats and Flip took together against Phoenix, because they were dynamite and looked like scoring every time they were out there. Put them together for crying out loud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 I agree.... whoa! Lol, I had the sam reaction. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 blueadams, this is your best line thread yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings_fanatic 677 Report post Posted May 4, 2011 I said it in another post but if we lose this series I will be placing a significant amount of blame on Mike Babcock. His refusal to play Mike Modano is just retarded... there is no way that he should be sitting after the way Abdelkator has played the last 2 games... Modano adds some speed to the line-up that we have been lacking against San Jose, and also he provides further depth to our team which I do not think San Jose can compete with. I just do not understand these lines... like I said our problem has been speed... so why would Babcock put a SLOW Franzen with Pavel Datsyuk... that is just going to slow Pavs down. Honestly, I am a BIG fan of Babs, but this year he has lost an edge with his coaching imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites