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2011 NHL Draft: Rounds 2-7 Discussion

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I wasn't really following. Did Wings draft anyone like this:

  • Height 5'7
  • Weight 250
  • Born in Sweden
  • Grew up at a farm in Ontario
  • First name Björn or Håkan
  • Last name Smith or Jones
  • Right hand shot
  • Dekes and fights
  • A natural sniper
  • Can be a top 6 forward and a top 4 defenceman at the same time
  • Atheist
  • Quote: "My main goal in life is to please everyone."

?

:lol:

No, the Ducks drafted Friberg.

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Holland trades down every single one of our picks. We end up with all 30 7th round picks, and draft the entire Swedish pee-wee league championship team. Then, he re-signs Ericsson, Eaves, Miller, MacDonald, and Salei. Finally, on the last day before training camp, Holland completes the roster by signing the wily veteran Joe Skrubz for his invaluable "experience" and "leadership". Holland proclaims the off-season to be the busiest and most successful in Red Wings' history. When asked why the team was barely able to clear the cap floor, Holland cites that free agent prices were "too high" and his desire to save cap space for injuries and make trades at the deadline. LGW members rally in support of their GM, arguing that signing any free agent for anything close to fair market value is ridiculous, insisting that we must save cap space to re-sign our own free agents the following off-season. They then proceed to mock all other NHL GMs for their gross overpayment of trade and free agent acquisitions, and declare Ken Holland the greatest general manager in the history of professional sports.

Not surprisingly, a dejected Nicklas Lidstrom decides to announce he will retire early after reporting to training camp to learn that he is expected to lead this team to the Stanley Cup. Nevertheless, the Lidstrom-less Wings hit the season in full stride, shattering league records for wins, points, and shootout losses while coasting to their 21st consecutive playoff berth. Then, despite most analyst's predictions of an evenly matched, hard fought 7 game series, the President's Trophy winning Red Wings manage to pimp-slap the lowly Albuquerque Desert Mongrels back to the stone age in a savage 4 game beatdown. Puppy dogs and ice cream rule the day as LGW erupts with jubilation, spawning countless "We believe" and "This is the Year" threads. Rested and confident, the Red Wings advance to the second round to face their arch-rivals, the Golden State Toilet Fish...

However, confidence quickly turns to apprehension when it is discovered that the Red Wings might have to break a sweat on their preordained crusade for the Stanley Cup. Though unpleasant to watch, Babcock is not concerned when the Red Wings break an NHL record during their game 1 loss after they suffer the most fatalities in a playoff home game (4), reiterating that "the power play is our enforcer". Holland appears unfazed as well, announcing that the team will promote young players to replace the deceased; Cleary (head trauma), Bertuzzi (complications from bite wound), Holmstrom (natural causes), and Hudler (decapitated while attempting to skate onto the bench, running into the door that has been inadvertently stuck shut. Eva maintains that he is still a top 5 playmaker in the world). LGW reaction is mixed and violent, but all are soothed when they learn that Franzen will return after missing 81 regular season games and the entire first round with a torn Anterior Nejrav Flavin. Their faith is rewarded when Franzen leads the team to a game 2 victory by effortlessly scoring 60 goals in 60 minutes. Replays of the game-winning goal show Franzen yawn as he skates into the neutral zone, deke all 3 Golden State forwards, skate onto the opposing bench, pull out Pavelski's mouth guard and throw it to the ice, pause to text message Bjork back in the Fjordland, jump back onto the ice, split the defense, and deftly flip it in top shelf. The play is featured at #10 on Sportcenter's top 10 plays of the night, followed by 9 different ways LeBron James managed to dunk a ball that night.

Unfortunately the victory is short-lived, as the Toilet Fish manage to eke out a pair of 1 goal games on their home ice. Though the series shifts back to Detroit with the Red Wings facing elimination for the third straight year, confidence amongst the faithful remains high. After all, the Wings have out-scored the Fish by nearly 60 goals throughout the series! Game 5 starts off fast and exhilarating, with both teams exchanging huge saves and momentum-shifting goals. Things couldn't get any more exciting when Zetterberg ties the game at the buzzer and sends it into overtime! Fond memories flood the arena as images of Stevie Y jumping and flailing his arms after his double overtime game winner against St Louis flash on the jumbo-tron. Then the unthinkable happens. As both teams return to their benches at the end of intermission, fans are stunned as they watch Ryane Clowe, sidelined since game 1 with a severed arm, walk down the tunnel and take his seat on the bench. The crowd at the Joe is horrified as they watch, as though it were scripted in a movie, Ryane Clowe manage to single-handedly (!!!) power his way through Ericsson and Kindl (shocking) and jam home the series clinching goal. LGW plunges into agonizing despair for about half a day, until a consensus is reached that injuries and travel are to blame, in addition to Brad McCrimmon, despite the fact that he hasn't been seen in over 8 months after disappearing in a Siberian Gulag. This rationalization allows order to return and gloating over our 4th Stanley Cup in, ummmm, 16 years now??? to resume.

Or something like that.

TL;DR Your cool story bro.

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I'm really excited about Tomas Jurco. This kid's got lottery pick talent and a first round body. Obviously he has some question marks that made him slip to us but we have to trust that the Wings scouts feel that he can overcome those issues. :thumbup:

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Seriously... this filler crap on NHL is terrible. Why fill when you have 200 picks to talk about?!?

They absolutely drove me nuts with their scattershot coverage, ending up not really covering anything except in-depth conversations with kids that were picked yesterday - and maybe one or two today. And you could hear them calling teams and names in the background while they bantered away about nothing relative to what was happening. They didn't even let us know the (live) number of who was up next to pick. Totally mind-numbing and not helpful at all. I finally wised up and came here and also checked some links you guys threw on here. THANKS. :thumbup:

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Wow, they way he scores goals reminds me of Cory Perry. Looks like he thrives in front of the net and has good hands in traffic / tight areas. Looks very strong and determined.

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can someone explain why Marchenko didnt get drafted last year, then didnt get drafted until extremely late this year. It doesnt make sense how that can happen when he was ranked so high, and had so much hype. Whether he was sick, or didnt wanna come to NA, doesnt matter, someone with as much skill he apparently has should still get drafted.

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Kenny went soft in this draft but i like this nedomlel kid, pretty much the defensive version of callahan but he is a monster at 6-4. hopefully he can round out the rest of his game and progress the way callahan has.

going to be following this kid closely :)

I like the jurco and tvrdon could be another pulkinen.

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Kenny went soft in this draft but i like this nedomlel kid, pretty much the defensive version of callahan but he is a monster at 6-4. hopefully he can round out the rest of his game and progress the way callahan has.

going to be following this kid closely :)

I like the jurco and tvrdon could be another pulkinen.

He picked only one player under 6-foot, and he's 5'11. Many of these guys are near 200+ ibs. How is that soft? He picked size and grit.

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He picked only one player under 6-foot, and he's 5'11. Many of these guys are near 200+ ibs. How is that soft? He picked size and grit.

By "soft" he meant they're not from the right part of the world.

:ph34r:

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Looks like all quality players with a lot of potential drafted by Detroit today. It only makes me that more excited for September and the Red Wings Training Camp. If I had money I'd be going up to Traverse City July 7-14th for the Detroit Red Wings Development Camp. This camp is usually held in Detroit but this year it's going to be held in Traverse City and will feature Detroit Red Wings Prospects and Draft Picks. It should be really good to see. I hear th tickets are only $5 per event per day but I don't know. If you look on the Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Facebook Page it has more details. All in all it was a great day of Drafting and should be a very good upcoming season. Up next Free Agency and than nothing really to look forward to as far as hockey goes until September. After July 1 Depression will sit in until the day I leave for the NHL Prospect Camp and Detroit Red Wings Training Camp.

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can someone explain why Marchenko didnt get drafted last year, then didnt get drafted until extremely late this year. It doesnt make sense how that can happen when he was ranked so high, and had so much hype. Whether he was sick, or didnt wanna come to NA, doesnt matter, someone with as much skill he apparently has should still get drafted.

I explained it on the last page, but basically his draft year everyone though he had a blood disorder and he missed some international tournaments because of it, but it was just mono and a bad spleen that has been removed.

He went late this year because of his unwillingness to move to North America. He was probably the best DMan in the draft, but he's stated to numerous Russian medias that he would prefer to stay in Russia, but hasn't 100% ruled of the NHL. The KHL, in 2009, made him the face of their junior league and has since marketed him as "The One".

Looks like all quality players with a lot of potential drafted by Detroit today. It only makes me that more excited for September and the Red Wings Training Camp. If I had money I'd be going up to Traverse City July 7-14th for the Detroit Red Wings Development Camp. This camp is usually held in Detroit but this year it's going to be held in Traverse City and will feature Detroit Red Wings Prospects and Draft Picks. It should be really good to see. I hear th tickets are only $5 per event per day but I don't know. If you look on the Detroit Red Wings Training Camp Facebook Page it has more details. All in all it was a great day of Drafting and should be a very good upcoming season. Up next Free Agency and than nothing really to look forward to as far as hockey goes until September. After July 1 Depression will sit in until the day I leave for the NHL Prospect Camp and Detroit Red Wings Training Camp.

They are having it up here July 7th-14th? That's right at the tail end of Cherry Festival... It's going to be even more hectic. I work at the Resort they will be staying at, maybe I can dig up some stuff for everyone.

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I explained it on the last page, but basically his draft year everyone though he had a blood disorder and he missed some international tournaments because of it, but it was just mono and a bad spleen that has been removed.

He went late this year because of his unwillingness to move to North America. He was probably the best DMan in the draft, but he's stated to numerous Russian medias that he would prefer to stay in Russia, but hasn't 100% ruled of the NHL. The KHL, in 2009, made him the face of their junior league and has since marketed him as "The One".

They are having it up here July 7th-14th? That's right at the tail end of Cherry Festival... It's going to be even more hectic. I work at the Resort they will be staying at, maybe I can dig up some stuff for everyone.

Yeah it's the 7th through the 14th. If I had money I would be going for sure but have to save up for the actual Training Camp. You work at the Resort they are staying at wow that's pretty cool I really wish I could find a job in TC I would move there. If you can dig up some stuff let me know I'd definetly be interested in it just let me know the cost and I'll see what I can do. Thanks.

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Not a lot of crediblity because it's ESPN. But for the entertainment value, I'd like to read it. Can you copy and paste the story?

EDIT: nevermind, full story can be found here

http://www.centericenews.com/forums/topic/2959-espn-grades-the-draft/

I've seen a lot of consensus that the Wings have a good draft (which is nice to know). Ditto for Hawks, Wild, Sens.

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I don't know if this had been posted yet but it's another blurb on Jurco

Jurco

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I would lower their grade to a B based on some of the risk involved. However it should be a B+ because of their potential and the draft position. I think on a whole the teams drafted very well.

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Really like this draft class. I love that Holland has the balls and luxury of not having to look for the more "NHL-ready" players and instead drafts players who have the talent to potentially be real impact players, not just pluggers.

And Holland will bring Marchenko into the US in a suitcase, voluntarily or not.

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Jurco is going to have all the skill needed. He just needs to mature a ton. He is a cocky ****** bag who thinks it is important to look good rather than win. That habit could break him, and many GMs knew this. Worth a risky 2nd round pick though.

Only one player under six foot in this draft. Pretty good for one of the smallest teams in the league.

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http://mobile.mlive.com/advdetroit/db_96962/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=do91MDDp&src=cat

Khan's article

Lot of teams wanted the 35th pick.

Wings thrilled about Jurco.

Tried to add even more 2nd rounders.

Confident Marchenko will come over.

These last two years have been really damned exciting for the Wings when it comes to the draft. Its nice to see a mix of risk and reward.

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What a line of Jurco-Sheahan-Jarnkrok will be...

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