Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 1, 2011 He completely flopped, but he still did take a headshot. It's like when you get hooked and embellish it, you still got hooked. IF he would have been grazed and flopped it would be different and I'd be shakin' my head at him, but he did take a nice shot on that. It's not like Jumbo Joe diving or any of the Nucks' diving after a tap someone. I think there is a fine line between diving and embellishing and to me AppleFritters embellished but didn't dive. Fair enough. It's a play MacArthur didn't have to make. 2 game suspension seems to follow the pattern of the crack down. It's 2 regular season games, reportedly. So hopefully we see MacArthur and Abby settle it tonight Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 1, 2011 Fair enough. It's a play MacArthur didn't have to make. 2 game suspension seems to follow the pattern of the crack down. It's 2 regular season games, reportedly. So hopefully we see MacArthur and Abby settle it tonight Wait, he's not out any preseason games, just regular season games? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 1, 2011 Wait, he's not out any preseason games, just regular season games? TSN is reporting 2 regular season games. Many other suspensions have included the remainder of the preseason, so i'm a little puzzled by this, as well. 1 wings1110 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 Paging Mr. Shanahan, Mr. Malone is here to see you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dteowner 20 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 TSN is reporting 2 regular season games. Many other suspensions have included the remainder of the preseason, so i'm a little puzzled by this, as well. The Shanny clip is up at NHL.com. The Leaf is out for the remainder of preseason plus 2 regular season games. TSN must have pooched their report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 Shanahan didn't suspend Ryan Malone for this hit on Chris Campoli: NHL.com “In the end, we felt that Malone had committed to the hit when Campoli was upright. However, when the contact was made, Campoli's head position significantly changed just prior to the hit.(...) A video explanation of the Malone decision will be available on NHL.com later Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bring Back The Bruise Bros 1,029 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 (edited) Paging Mr. Shanahan, Mr. Malone is here to see you. I think the Habs player lowered his head. Hopefully Shanny recognizes that. Edit: Just saw p.marlowe's link. Good non-call by Shanny Edited October 3, 2011 by Bring Back The Bruise Bros Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sleepwalker 512 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 "“In the end, we felt that Malone had committed to the hit when Campoli was upright. However, when the contact was made, Campoli's head position significantly changed just prior to the hit." Uh..yeah I agree. But thats also the exact same thing that happened with the Brendan Smith/Ben Smith hit and you gave Brendan one of the longest suspensions thus far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scott Stevens 44 Report post Posted October 3, 2011 ""In the end, we felt that Malone had committed to the hit when Campoli was upright. However, when the contact was made, Campoli's head position significantly changed just prior to the hit." Uh..yeah I agree. But thats also the exact same thing that happened with the Brendan Smith/Ben Smith hit and you gave Brendan one of the longest suspensions thus far. I agree. The Smith on Smith hit was going to be shoulder on shoulder and Ben Smith on his butt, but Ben Smith changed his position right at the last second to avoid getting planted. That should have been dealt with the same way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barrie 900 Report post Posted October 4, 2011 Wow I'm getting a lot of negative votes lately for my comments about head shots and fighting. Again, doesn't bother me, I think somethings need to be said. You all realize the league is trying to get the game cleaned up before Crosby comes back, so some idiot doesn't take a run at him. Personally I've been disgusted with head shots since Game 2 of the 2008 Final, when Pittsburgh players were punching Franzen in the head his first game back after having a concussion. I think this is similar to when the game came back after the lockout and all those penalties were being called. Everyone adjusted, and I think the same thing will happen with head shots and fighting. We'll all adjust, and the game will be better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 4, 2011 I agree. The Smith on Smith hit was going to be shoulder on shoulder and Ben Smith on his butt, but Ben Smith changed his position right at the last second to avoid getting planted. That should have been dealt with the same way. Shanny said in the ruling (and in my opinion the replay confirms) that the toe drag didn't significantly change the head position or direction he was skating. Wow I'm getting a lot of negative votes lately for my comments about head shots and fighting. Again, doesn't bother me, I think somethings need to be said. You all realize the league is trying to get the game cleaned up before Crosby comes back, so some idiot doesn't take a run at him. Personally I've been disgusted with head shots since Game 2 of the 2008 Final, when Pittsburgh players were punching Franzen in the head his first game back after having a concussion. I think this is similar to when the game came back after the lockout and all those penalties were being called. Everyone adjusted, and I think the same thing will happen with head shots and fighting. We'll all adjust, and the game will be better. Agreed. Right now it may seem like the sky is falling, but hockey is an evolving thing. There'll be a rough adjustment period but I think they'll figure out a level that keeps players safer without ruining hitting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Konnan511 1,736 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 Wow I'm getting a lot of negative votes lately for my comments about head shots and fighting. Again, doesn't bother me, I think somethings need to be said. You all realize the league is trying to get the game cleaned up before Crosby comes back, so some idiot doesn't take a run at him. Personally I've been disgusted with head shots since Game 2 of the 2008 Final, when Pittsburgh players were punching Franzen in the head his first game back after having a concussion. I think this is similar to when the game came back after the lockout and all those penalties were being called. Everyone adjusted, and I think the same thing will happen with head shots and fighting. We'll all adjust, and the game will be better. Exactly. Every year since the lockout the number of power-play opportunities per team has gone down. Last year was the lowest mark for Power play opportunities since the early 80s. Players adjust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeytown0001 7,652 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 I like the way that Shanny provides a video explanation for his decisions. 1 P. Marlowe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
e_prime 1,936 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 You guys see Shanny's Good Decisions/Good Hits video? 1 P. Marlowe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted October 5, 2011 You guys see Shanny's Good Decisions/Good Hits video? Great video. That's the thing, it's not about removing hitting from the game. In the past players would almost always let up in those situations highlighted in the video. But over the years there's been a new breed of player. Guys like the Matt Cooke's, Raffi Torres, Tootoo's, who make their living running guys in vulnerable positions. Over time it became an acceptable part of the game. You can get the headhunting out of the game and still leave plenty of opportunities for crushing hits. 1 P. Marlowe reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted October 10, 2011 From TSN: NHL disciplinarian Brendan Shanahan has suspended Minnesota Wild forward Pierre-Marc Bouchard for two games for an incident that took place on Saturday. ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted October 18, 2011 We still using this thread? Just saw on Twitter from Bob McKenzie: NHL announces PIT's Kris Letang will have disciplinary hearing today for boarding WPG's Alex Burmistrov last night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 18, 2011 We still using this thread? Just saw on Twitter from Bob McKenzie: After all the panic during the pre-season there's been only one suspension since the start of the regular season. I'm glad if this means that players have already adjusted. Neither have I noticed a drop in the quality of the game that some feared. Could it be that regular season games are more important so players are concentrating more in all aspects of the game which includes keeping your hands down when hitting? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted October 18, 2011 After all the panic during the pre-season there's been only one suspension since the start of the regular season. I'm glad if this means that players have already adjusted. Neither have I noticed a drop in the quality of the game that some feared. Could it be that regular season games are more important so players are concentrating more in all aspects of the game which includes keeping your hands down when hitting? I think its been a combination of players being smarter in the regular season, but also a reduction in Shanahan's toughness. Right now there is a good balance IMO. The suspensions in the preseason sent a message. I think this hit some of the players, but at the same time I didn't think such a stringent standard could be kept up all season long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P. Marlowe 748 Report post Posted October 18, 2011 TSN.ca The NHL has suspended Pittsburgh Penguins defenceman Kris Letang two games for his hit on Winnipeg's Alexander Burmistrov on Monday night.Letang was assessed a boarding penalty on the play. Letang leads the Penguins with seven points so far this season. Shanahan's video: NHL.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Good. Letang's a cheap little ***** that gets the benefit of the doubt usually because he has some skill. esteef 4 Doc Holliday, edicius, mjlegend and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GongShow94 2 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Good. Letang's a cheap little ***** that gets the benefit of the doubt usually because he has some skill. Its not just letang in my eyes I think the whole pens team gets babied. Except for cooke, the pens players get away with murder all the time. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edicius 3,269 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Its not just letang in my eyes I think the whole pens team gets babied. Except for cooke, the pens players get away with murder all the time. Did you hear the Pens broadcast with Errey making excuses right and left for Letang? I know some people think Ken and Mickey are homers, but even they'll call a spade a spade. On the Pens' broadcasts, though...they can do no wrong. 1 esteef reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeff48109 474 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 Did you hear the Pens broadcast with Errey making excuses right and left for Letang? I know some people think Ken and Mickey are homers, but even they'll call a spade a spade. On the Pens' broadcasts, though...they can do no wrong. the pens announcing crew is easily the worst in the NHL. even their own fans want them fired Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
esteef 2,679 Report post Posted October 19, 2011 the pens announcing crew is easily the worst in the NHL. even their own fans want them fired The ones in boston are horrible too. esteef Share this post Link to post Share on other sites