DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I didn't really want to start a thread about this but it is very true. This team for the regular season anyway needs to learn how to get some of their losses in OT. We are one of a few teams who get little to no points by losing in OT and it could honestly cost us this division. We could be right up there with CHI if we had accomplished this amazing feat. 1 Jasper84 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dimaline312000 51 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I get what you're saying but I really have to agree with Cevari at least a little bit. Wings can't win EVERY Game but yes it would be nice to get as many points as we can so yes I'd obviously rather take an OT Loss than a Regulation Loss. As a team you fight for every point every game, I'm sure the Wings would love to force some of these regulation games into OT and at least get a point but it's really easier said than done. Every game is a grinde and the season is a gride, I haven't given up on the Wings POSSIBLY catching up to the Hawks and taking the Central Division again but this team has struggled the biggest goal would be for them to just get the points that they can get and improve throuhout this season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 Defensively the team is more than fine. They've addressed the problems of previous seasons and in my mind we have one of the top few defenses in the league. Focus needs to shift to a reliable second line scorer. It's nice to have depth scoring from everywhere, but we need at least one player who can consistently pot a goal outside of Datsyuk and Franzen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HelmFan 84 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 Defensively the team is more than fine. They've addressed the problems of previous seasons and in my mind we have one of the top few defenses in the league. Focus needs to shift to a reliable second line scorer. It's nice to have depth scoring from everywhere, but we need at least one player who can consistently pot a goal outside of Datsyuk and Franzen. I strongley disagree that Franzen can consistenly score goals. 1 Z and D for the C reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reds4Life 51 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I strongley disagree that Franzen can consistenly score goals. Yeah, Mule is the ultimate streaky guy. He scores 5 goals in 3 games and then disappears for a couple of weeks. 1 Z and D for the C reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ace76 28 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I understand what your saying bud, but the wings only have one loss in OT. Which means they have won the rest of the games that have went into OT getting the full 2 points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DRW Dominance 255 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 sorry i should have specified a little bit in my OP. the losing part was a bit sarcastic, the rest a bit out of anger. it bothers me looking at the standings, seeing the Wings with the most regulation time wins and not being atop the division, conference, or league. just irked i guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CopenhagenWing 38 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 Yeah, Mule is the ultimate streaky guy. He scores 5 goals in 3 games and then disappears for a couple of weeks. The Wings had a player like that a while back. Played with #14, scored in spurts like most scorers and now a part of league management. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 The Wings had a player like that a while back. Played with #14, scored in spurts like most scorers and now a part of league management. Whoa dude... Comparing Mule to Shanny in front of a public of Wings fans is one of the best ways to ask for trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 This is why the league should go back to 5 on 5 OT, with no points for OT losses. Scrap the shootout. Then you won't have these types of discrepancies in the standings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I think what this team needs is a little less cap-space (wink wink) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MabusIncarnate 5,359 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 This is why the league should go back to 5 on 5 OT, with no points for OT losses. Scrap the shootout. Then you won't have these types of discrepancies in the standings. I agree completely. Only thing i'd improve is to make it a 10 minute 5 on 5 and then a tie, the shootout isn't a way to decide a game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 28, 2011 I strongley disagree that Franzen can consistenly score goals. Yeah, Mule is the ultimate streaky guy. He scores 5 goals in 3 games and then disappears for a couple of weeks. I miss Hossa. That's right. I said it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Opie 308 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Quite simply this team needs a straight up scorer. Not a solid two way forward. A sniper who can pot 35 - 40 goals. This team struggles to score consistently. Mule is becoming the epitome of this team. On fire one week, a ghost for 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Wings Addict 787 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Quite simply this team needs a straight up scorer. Not a solid two way forward. A sniper who can pot 35 - 40 goals. This team struggles to score consistently. Mule is becoming the epitome of this team. On fire one week, a ghost for 3. When it comes to what this teem needs, I used to be torn between a shooter/scorer/sniper and a power/top-six dirty work winger. I still believe the Wings need another power winger as opposed to a sniper. A guy in the mold of Laich/Clowe/Doan, etc. If the Wings want to make a deep run into the playoffs, that kind of player will do wonders in a playoff environment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Whoa dude... Comparing Mule to Shanny in front of a public of Wings fans is one of the best ways to ask for trouble. Here's trouble - Shanny would actually check at times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMRwings1983 8,803 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Quite simply this team needs a straight up scorer. Not a solid two way forward. A sniper who can pot 35 - 40 goals. This team struggles to score consistently. Mule is becoming the epitome of this team. On fire one week, a ghost for 3. It's amazing how soft Franzen is on the puck. He has a great shot and that's it. His work ethic is laughable. Reminds me of Robert Lang out there lumbering around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clutchngrab 12 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) When it comes to what this teem needs, I used to be torn between a shooter/scorer/sniper and a power/top-six dirty work winger. I still believe the Wings need another power winger as opposed to a sniper. A guy in the mold of Laich/Clowe/Doan, etc. If the Wings want to make a deep run into the playoffs, that kind of player will do wonders in a playoff environment. Actually, we need both. If you look at our top 6 we are not doing service to the talents of Z and D. Especially Datsyuk. At least Zetterberg has Filpula who has been playing very good hockey. Franzen... too much of a no show night in and night out. Hudler and Bert in the top 6 pretty much says how far the wings will go this year. Edited December 29, 2011 by clutchngrab Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Whoa dude... Comparing Mule to Shanny in front of a public of Wings fans is one of the best ways to ask for trouble. It's an apt comparison. Shanahan was notoriously streaky, especially in the playoffs. Mule, at least, is not at all streaky in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Mule, at least, is not at all streaky in the playoffs. Um, of his last 24 playoff games, Franzen has scored in 5 of them. Like GMR said, Franzen has an incredible shot, one of the best in the league. But that is literally all he has. It's okay if he is a streaky goal scorer if he does other things than score goals, but he doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest irishock Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Question is, will Holland land the Wings their 'need' during the season or via free agency? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Crymson Report post Posted December 29, 2011 Um, of his last 24 playoff games, Franzen has scored in 5 of them. Like GMR said, Franzen has an incredible shot, one of the best in the league. But that is literally all he has. It's okay if he is a streaky goal scorer if he does other things than score goals, but he doesn't. OK, sure, so he's widely known as one of the best playoff performers of the last four years for nothing. You go, champ. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigWillieStyle 662 Report post Posted December 29, 2011 OK, sure, so he's widely known as one of the best playoff performers of the last four years for nothing. You go, champ. Much of the last 2 years has been paying lip service to the 2 years previous, when he was a dominate force in the playoffs. But not to worry, he has 9 years left on his contract to get back on track. 3 GoWings1905, Nev and GMRwings1983 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Z and D for the C 712 Report post Posted December 31, 2011 OK, sure, so he's widely known as one of the best playoff performers of the last four years for nothing. You go, champ. Men lie, women lie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SouthernWingsFan 854 Report post Posted December 31, 2011 I am disappointed to see that nobody has mentioned more cowbell yet. 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
