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[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

Assuming Holland makes a minor move or two before the deadline, what "pieces" do you guys feel could be moved as part of the deal(s)? Off the top of my head, here are a few guys I could imagine being packaged to get a guy like Morrow or Moen:

Fabian Brunnstrom-1 point in 5 games this year with the Wings. 13 points in 18 games with Grand Rapids. Doubt Dallas will want another go-around with this guy, though.
Jiri Hudler-This one is tough for me, because he has been playing well lately. So I guess it depends on what Ken's plans are for him in the offseason. If he views Hudler's play as raising his trade value, then he could definitely be packaged. If Ken intends on keeping him, obviously he isn't going anywhere. Consistency, on a year-to-year basis has to be a concern for management with Hudler, though.
Patrick Eaves-Another tough call for me. It is unfortunate he has had an injury-riddled year, but can he regain his spot in the lineup when he gets back? Miller's been playing solid on the fourth line, so I think he's earned that spot on the 4th line.
Brad Stuart-If we know he is not going to return this summer, might as well get something for him. At the same token, I think he could be essential in this year's playoff run. Again, an other tough call for management.

Anyone think other guys could be on their way out before February 27th?

[LeftWinger]

Assuming Holland makes a minor move or two before the deadline, what "pieces" do you guys feel could be moved as part of the deal(s)? Off the top of my head, here are a few guys I could imagine being packaged to get a guy like Morrow or Moen:

Fabian Brunnstrom-1 point in 5 games this year with the Wings. 13 points in 18 games with Grand Rapids. Doubt Dallas will want another go-around with this guy, though.
Jiri Hudler-This one is tough for me, because he has been playing well lately. So I guess it depends on what Ken's plans are for him in the offseason. If he views Hudler's play as raising his trade value, then he could definitely be packaged. If Ken intends on keeping him, obviously he isn't going anywhere. Consistency, on a year-to-year basis has to be a concern for management with Hudler, though.
Patrick Eaves-Another tough call for me. It is unfortunate he has had an injury-riddled year, but can he regain his spot in the lineup when he gets back? Miller's been playing solid on the fourth line, so I think he's earned that spot on the 4th line.
Brad Stuart-If we know he is not going to return this summer, might as well get something for him. At the same token, I think he could be essential in this year's playoff run. Again, an other tough call for management.

Anyone think other guys could be on their way out before February 27th?

not that I think these guys would be "on their way out" but here is a list of guys I think could be shopped around for the right deal:

Hudler

Cleary

Emmerton

Mursak

Filppula (I would hate this)

and Franzen....yes, Franzen but ONLY if it was to acquire that legit top line super sniper, if not, then I keep Franzen because his value to this team is nearly irreplaceable, but for the right deal...

I agree with your take on Stuart, but in all honesty, if he is for sure not coming back then I would ride him through the playoffs, then come to a sign and trade deal with a west coast team that absolutely wants him and does not want to get into a bidding war for him come July 1st. I just think he is too valuable to this team to deal him before the playoffs...

after that, you can pick a number of prospects that could go, but there are few I would hate to see go, Smith and Sheahan being two. I like what Nyquist brings and there are a few other small skilled forwards that excite me too! It would be a tough call, but to get Morrow here and maybe Moen as well, it's a call that would be worth taking....in my opinion.

[Rice]

Stuart and Hudler have no value to sellers.

[Red Crazy]

I can't see Ken Holland making a huge trade either on or before the deadline. Rumour has it that Ryan Suter will test the market July 1st and my guess is that the Wings will push hard for him.

I don't think that the Wings have the assets that other teams are looking for that they would be willing to part with. The players that could be moved like Hudler,Cleary,or Kindl don't have a lot of value even when packaged with a pick. Do you think Morrow could be had for a scrub and a pick? I am not so sure.

I wonder what Ericsson would be worth as trade bait to a team like Edmonton that is looking for a big young d-man?

[2probert4]

I can't see Ken Holland making a huge trade either on or before the deadline. Rumour has it that Ryan Suter will test the market July 1st and my guess is that the Wings will push hard for him.

I don't think that the Wings have the assets that other teams are looking for that they would be willing to part with. The players that could be moved like Hudler,Cleary,or Kindl don't have a lot of value even when packaged with a pick. Do you think Morrow could be had for a scrub and a pick? I am not so sure.

I wonder what Ericsson would be worth as trade bait to a team like Edmonton that is looking for a big young d-man?

were not getting Suter... They will trade him after the season if he doesn't resign.....

[irishock]

I'd hate for this to happen also... But I think Filppula has the best chance not because he's not producing this year, but because he has the highest trade value for forwards on our team aside from Datsyuk. Holland might bank in on a legit maybe even top 3 forward by shipping out a package of Flip, Stuart, Hudler picks etc.

[matemate]

Cleary
Kindl
Miller
Emmerton
Pulkkinen
Tatar

[Dominator2005]

1. Ruutu

2. Big E for Peckhman (it seems like he's available)

3. Nabokov

[T.Low]

Stuart is the kinda guy teams seek out to shore up their D on a Cup run, not the kinda guy teams ship out on a Cup run because they are afraid he may be homesick and not return with said Cup after he takes it home for his day in the summer with it.

he's not going anywhere.

Franzen is PlayoffZilla. Not going anywhere.

Cleary will also sacrifice his life for the team during the playoffs, not going anywhere.

Hudler...maybe.

[Dominator2005]

BTW Trading Flip would be stupid...

[redwingfan19]

Hudler
Filpulla (only if part of a package that lands a sniper)
Emmerton
Miller
Eaves
Kindl
Ericsson (if anyone would even take him)
Stuart

Any prospect not named Smith.

[Cloune]

Hudler + Kindl for Jeff Carter

[GMRwings1983]

No one mentioned Ericsson.

Probably because no one would take him for that contract.

[Crymson]

I think a lot of people here are in denial of the fact that any major deadline deal will include draft picks and prospects from the Wings` end. Sellers will not be interested in the likes of Hudler, Bertuzzi, etc, nor in our replaceable parts such as Emmerton and Brunnstrom.

No one mentioned Ericsson.

Probably because no one would take him for that contract.

In an ideal world, he'd be waived. That said, he does play better in the playoffs than in the regular season.

I'd hate for this to happen also... But I think Filppula has the best chance not because he's not producing this year, but because he has the highest trade value for forwards on our team aside from Datsyuk. Holland might bank in on a legit maybe even top 3 forward by shipping out a package of Flip, Stuart, Hudler picks etc.

Unless Holland gets an offer he simply can't rightfully refuse, I don't see him shipping out Filppula.

Edited by Crymson, 27 January 2012 - 10:55 PM.

[VM1138]

It sounds like guys like Parise might be available for relatively cheap. I imagine there are other options out there in similar situations. Teams need to unload some salary or fix unstable locker room situations. I don't see Holland parting with anyone in the top two lines, or even the third line.

I see him giving up picks (our 1sts are worthless anyway) and guys like Brunnstrom (unlikely anyone wants him), Miller, Emmerton, or some prospects not named Smith, Nyquist, Jarnkrok or Tatar. That should net us a relatively cheap 2nd liner (Parise) or some grittier playoff presences like Morrow or Moen.

I doubt we'd trade even Hudler for anyone, because the return would be relatively limited. Think about it, would you rather have a slight upgrade, or a deeper team? I think going into the playoffs you want to be as deep as you can be. So in an imaginary world Hudler for Parise wouldn't be as beneficial as a bunch of picks for Moen or a few prospects and picks for Parise because we would be that much deeper. (Not a realistic example, it's just that...an example)

Edited by VM1138, 27 January 2012 - 10:58 PM.

[GMRwings1983]

Unless Holland gets an offer he simply can't rightfully refuse, I don't see him shipping out Filppula.

[Crymson]

Filppula for Iginla? Yeah, good luck swinging that one.

[GMRwings1983]

Filppula for Iginla? Yeah, good luck swinging that one.

I didn't mean straight up. We'd have to throw in other things as well.

Some options to throw around: Cleary, Tatar, Nyqvist, draft picks, one of Holland's Cup rings, Mursak, etc.

[Bring Back The Bruise Bros]

I didn't mean straight up. We'd have to throw in other things as well.

Some options to throw around: Cleary, Tatar, Nyqvist, draft picks, one of Holland's Cup rings, Mursak, etc.

To Detroit:

Jarome Iginla
Tim Jackman
Mark Giordano

To Calgary:

Dan Cleary
Jonathan Ericsson
Tomas Tatar
Draft Pick

[blgillett]

No one is going to take Franzen from us to long of a contract no chance
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not that I think these guys would be "on their way out" but here is a list of guys I think could be shopped around for the right deal:

Hudler

Cleary

Emmerton

Mursak

Filppula (I would hate this)

and Franzen....yes, Franzen but ONLY if it was to acquire that legit top line super sniper, if not, then I keep Franzen because his value to this team is nearly irreplaceable, but for the right deal...

I agree with your take on Stuart, but in all honesty, if he is for sure not coming back then I would ride him through the playoffs, then come to a sign and trade deal with a west coast team that absolutely wants him and does not want to get into a bidding war for him come July 1st. I just think he is too valuable to this team to deal him before the playoffs...

after that, you can pick a number of prospects that could go, but there are few I would hate to see go, Smith and Sheahan being two. I like what Nyquist brings and there are a few other small skilled forwards that excite me too! It would be a tough call, but to get Morrow here and maybe Moen as well, it's a call that would be worth taking....in my opinion.
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