Guest irishock Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Call me up when Pavs comes back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAFWingedWheel 4 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Oh well, best to get all the injuries out of the way before the playoffs. We don't need a president's trophy, just a place in the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Shelley is out tonight. The wings need some nastiness, not just toughness. While the wings arent the toughest team in the league, they do have guys that battle and are tough, however; they dont have anyone who is nasty out there on the ice. Rinaldo may not be the greatest fighter, but he plays a mean nasty game. Hes not afraid to throw a hard hit or cross check. The wings just play too nice. I would say Ericsson is a better fighter than anyone on the ice tonight, but that wouldnt stop much because he doesn't play a nasty game. I would much prefer to bring a Neil, Tootoo, Martin, Rinaldo. These are all mean guys who play nasty against the opponent and would respond to the antics by the flyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holmstrom96 347 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Did Kronner just get a ref escort to the bench? Who is going to protect him, a Red Wing? 2 cnot19 and WizardOfOz30 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Production Line Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Who is going to protect him, a Red Wing? Our enforcer is out with a lower body injury. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
USAFWingedWheel 4 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Who is going to protect him, a Red Wing? HAHAHAHAHA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esquire 324 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I just took a dump, looked in the toilet, and I swear it was set up with Hudler at the point. 2 DatsyukianDangles122 and edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cnot19 191 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 It seems like it. Especially Janik, like he can fight, and he needs to show the brass he has something. Smith fought last game so Babs probably told him to stop. And Abby, I'm sure he could put up a fight vs Rinaldo or Hartnell. It's what alot of fans don't understand that you and I do, it's not about winning the fight, it's about showing your not afraid. The Wings are showing there afraid. Agreed 100%. I think SMith, Janik, and QUincey are all capable of winning the fight or getting the draw, however theres just no response from them. they need to go out of their way to rough up the flyers not have the flyers come to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I can see the kronner hit going both ways. I mean on one hand it was a hit to the head. but kronwall was perpendicular to the ice with his body (not leaning in) it seems and it was the head forward of voracek that got him f***ed as opposed to just being stood up if he had pulled up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,756 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 There's nothing we can do now. This is our team for the season. My point was, if we can't capatilize on the PP's that come off teams running us and gooning it up, then we need a guy that can answer. We don't have one, and our PP sucks. Just not alot of good stuff happening the last couple games our powerplay will be able to answer once everyone gets back. Getting Quincey on the point and Hudler off of the point and onto the sideboards will give a us a MUCH better PP. No goons necessary, I'll take the PP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Echolalia 2,961 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 If a guy's vulnerable, you're supposed to let up a bit. Kronwall didn't. That's the argument Shanny will make. The vulnerability aspect of this hit is no different than any other Kronwall hit. Im not using that as defense for the hit, but I don't know that Shanny can use that as the principle reason for enforcing a suspension. I have to watch to replay again, but Kronner commits to his hits pretty early on and that poses a problem in these situations. When he commits to his hit, it's usually while the puck is in mid pass along the boards to the winger. Theres a good second or two as Kronwall transfers his momentum from skating backwards to skating into the zone. if a player presents his head in front of his body, eyes only in the puck after getting the puck, kronwall is already on top of him. If we give the winger the benefit here, and say kronwall can still pull up and avoid the hit, the winger gets a breakaway because at this point all of kronwall's momentum is going the opposite direction of the play, and hes pinched in from the blue line. Letting up on a hit in those situations would lead to breakaways. For Kronwall when he decides to engage in the process of starting the hit, he either commits to the hit and risk the injury and the suspension if he happens to never put his head up, or avoid the hit and give the winger an excellent scoring opp. The way the rules are set up really discourage these types of hits (not headshots but hitting wingers as they approach the blue line). I never really thought about it before this instance because everyone up until this point ( at least since the rules cracked down) got their head up in time to avoid getting it blasted off their body. 1 edicius reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I just took a dump, looked in the toilet, and I swear it was set up with Hudler at the point. ohsnap. i loled Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aussie_Wing 354 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Mursak-Emmerton-Conner has been our best line. Play them more. They actually want to be out there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jollymania 162 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Tocchet with a brilliant bit on the kronwall hit, totally respect Tocchet. 1 redwingfan19 reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Go with McCarty to remind them of this: One of my favorite Wings' moments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Our enforcer is out with a lower body injury. Bertuzzi? Or is this a cheeky way of saying the PP is our enforcer, and Datsyuk is out meaning we have no PP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kylee 727 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 come on Wings...this game is so frustrating to watch because they have absolutely no jump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,131 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I said this was gonna happen and got negged 23 times. I hope when they get healthy it turns back around.... .....i love all the hudler and franzen hate! +1,000,000 to all of you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
datterberg1340 626 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 I just took a dump, looked in the toilet, and I swear it was set up with Hudler at the point. LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vladifan 680 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Tocchet with a brilliant bit on the kronwall hit, totally respect Tocchet. What did he say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redwingfan19 293 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZWx-L5nQv0 3 Hockeymom1960, sputman and brett reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingsfan4795 552 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 (edited) I just took a dump, looked in the toilet, and I swear it was set up with Hudler at the point. YES Edited March 7, 2012 by wingsfan4795 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeymom1960 5,107 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 Funny how Philly can't control themselves but that's to be expected with this team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 our powerplay will be able to answer once everyone gets back. Getting Quincey on the point and Hudler off of the point and onto the sideboards will give a us a MUCH better PP. No goons necessary, I'll take the PP. I don't want a goon. And yes, Datsyuk and Lidstrom make a big difference and the PP will be better. But on top of that, we'd be better off with tougher players that can play instead of Emmertons and Millers (even though he's growing on me) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hockey Convert 55 Report post Posted March 7, 2012 The wings need some nastiness, not just toughness. While the wings arent the toughest team in the league, they do have guys that battle and are tough, however; they dont have anyone who is nasty out there on the ice. Rinaldo may not be the greatest fighter, but he plays a mean nasty game. Hes not afraid to throw a hard hit or cross check. The wings just play too nice. I would say Ericsson is a better fighter than anyone on the ice tonight, but that wouldnt stop much because he doesn't play a nasty game. Absolutely agree; I've been saying this in one form or another all year. Abby tries, but even not considering his fighting skill he just doesn't have the demeanor for it. We need someone mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
