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#1 Wing Across The Pond

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:31 PM

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but apparently Garth Snow offered all of this years picks at the draft for 2nd overall from the Blue Jackets.

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I seem to agree with most of the Twitterverse on this one. Snow is the second biggest idiot in hockey for offering this. Scott Howson is first for reportedly turning it down. Not to mention bad form for leaking it to the press but I guess he just couldn't believe it was really happening

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:38 PM

This seems so beyond ridiculous I feel like the thread belongs in the trade rumor section. If true, they're both absolute idiots. Does Snow truly believe moving up two picks in the first is worth every other pick he has? If so, Howson deserves to be fired for turning it down. As for Snow, he just continues to make the Islanders the laughing stock of the NHL.

Bottom line, two dumb GM's making each other look dumber.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:42 PM

Technically they could be ranked the 3rd and 4th biggest idiots in Hockey.

Charles Wang and John P. McConnell would be the biggest for continuing to employ these idiots.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:51 PM

This isn't a rumor; it is infact true. Here is another link to verify it: http://www.cbssports...t-for-no-2-pick

What a hefty price to move up two spots in the draft. If I was an Islanders fan and Howson accepted this, I think I would want Snow to be beheaded. That is just absurd. I don't see Snow's logic in jumping two spots... Defensive heavy draft... There was tons of talent.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:53 PM

That deal would have totally worked in NHL 12..

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:56 PM

isnt wasnt garth snow it was the owner charles wang .... and howson should be fired on the spot for refusing such an offer that team could of used every single one of those picks and gotten a good prospect at 4 spot


that being said he fired his whole scouting staff after the draft

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 12:57 PM

Okay, who let Mike Ditka into the room?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:00 PM

That deal would have totally worked in NHL 12..


This deal would have worked on every other team. Who the hell would reject a trade like that? Maybe the Islanders are looking to pick a few Red Wing players for their 2013 picks?

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:03 PM

Garth Snow is envious of Dean Lombardi's success.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:03 PM

This rumour's one of those things that's coming from too many different sources at the same time to be completely false. If it's true I'm pretty shocked the Blue Jackets didn't bite. Surely the drop in talent from Murray to Reinheart can't be big enough to justify not taking another 6 draft picks as compensation for the slide. On the other side of the fence: this must mean Snow was 100% convinced Murray would be a bonefide perenial all-star... losing an entire year of 2nd to 7th round prospects just to bump up two spots seems pretty absurd. Just imagine how that'd decimate their organizational depth five years down the road...
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:10 PM

Not to mention the pressure it would put on Murray, being the only player in their entire 2012 draft class.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:12 PM

This reminds me of the Ricky Williams trade years ago by Mike Ditka. I know the Isles have stockpiled picks in recent years and have a boatload of prospects in their organization but this would have been stupid to do. Thankfully for them, Howson turned it down.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

Garth Snow is the best GM in all of sports. Look how successful the Isles are and how certain their future is on Long Island.....though his pads were not within regulation.

This seems so beyond ridiculous I feel like the thread belongs in the trade rumor section. If true, they're both absolute idiots. Does Snow truly believe moving up two picks in the first is worth every other pick he has? If so, Howson deserves to be fired for turning it down. As for Snow, he just continues to make the Islanders the laughing stock of the NHL.

Bottom line, two dumb GM's making each other look dumber.

Snow wanted to draft Murray and call it quits for the draft. Untuck his shirt, take off his tie, crack a beer and put his feet up. And Chuck Wang should be the GM if he's gonna poke his nose in everything and make rash idiot decisions to keep the Isles in the news.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:29 PM

This isn't a rumor; it is infact true. Here is another link to verify it: http://www.cbssports...t-for-no-2-pick

What a hefty price to move up two spots in the draft. If I was an Islanders fan and Howson accepted this, I think I would want Snow to be beheaded. That is just absurd. I don't see Snow's logic in jumping two spots... Defensive heavy draft... There was tons of talent.


Multiple unnamed sources =/= confirmation!
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:40 PM

If Howson is honest enough with himself about the quality of his development program then maybe this was the right move. Think about it, if you KNOW for a fact that you absolutely blow at developing talent, then why make a move that gives you more players in need of more development? Typically, the first and second picks can walk directly onto an NHL team and play without any development whatsoever. I'm not suggesting Howson is a good GM or anything, but if you know you can't help guys reach their potential, then you'd be foolish to draft on potential.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:04 PM

Multiple unnamed sources =/= confirmation!


CBS is pretty reliable. It's been one of my go to sites for the past 6-8 years or so. If there isn't much truth to something then they don't post it. I've never gotten false information from them.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:05 PM

CBS is pretty reliable. It's been one of my go to sites for the past 6-8 years or so. If there isn't much truth to something then they don't post it. I've never gotten false information from them.


Again, they're reporting that they heard from sources, they aren't reporting it as fact. I'm inclined to agree that the proposed trade was probably offered but it's still worth noting that nothing has been officially confirmed.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:08 PM

Oh, Snow...
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 02:40 PM

Maybe the Isles thought Yakupov would slide to #2 and then they would trade for the pick and draft him. I can't see them being THAT excited for Murray.
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Posted 25 June 2012 - 03:40 PM

This rumour's one of those things that's coming from too many different sources at the same time to be completely false. If it's true I'm pretty shocked the Blue Jackets didn't bite. Surely the drop in talent from Murray to Reinheart can't be big enough to justify not taking another 6 draft picks as compensation for the slide. On the other side of the fence: this must mean Snow was 100% convinced Murray would be a bonefide perenial all-star... losing an entire year of 2nd to 7th round prospects just to bump up two spots seems pretty absurd. Just imagine how that'd decimate their organizational depth five years down the road...


With the s*** job Snow has done for the Isles, he's gotta be thinking he'll be gone in 5 years anyway, so what the hell. The problem is, his offer was still beyond ridiculous and just plain stupid...even in the short-term. What an idiot.
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