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NHL submits offer to NHLPA - **Suspension Warning Post #70 & #273*

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Doug MacLean's personal financial situation and career opportunities do not invalidate his opinion...which seemed to be the premise of your statement.

I'm still trying to find Maclean's playing statistics in the NHL. Sadly, he didn't get to see his six-plus seasons. His level of bias in most cases on this show is a bit much to take seriously.

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The latest I've seen is that the PA is supposed to vote on the DOI again to authorize the board to file. Said to be just to keep pressure on NHL. Some analysts think a deal will be done in 48 hours. We'll see.

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So wait. It was Don Fehr himself -- the bogeyman, salary-cap crusher -- who decided against disclaimer last night? Hmm.

The first group session b/w the NHL and NHLPA is over. The sides are expected to get back together again today, but time is still TBD.

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What affect do you guys think these compliance buyouts and the cap reduction will have on free agent signings and trades? Obviously the teams well below the cap will be able to pick up some better players in theory, but given their own personal financial situations it seems unlikely that any will be big spenders. Additionally, all the other teams who are tight against the cap will likely make few or no moves. This could have a serious downward impact on free agent contracts for a couple of years at least.

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Hearing rumours NHL teams are reaching out to their coaches and telling them to be ready. Some are booking flites to their cities.

NHL has gone back to original language on HRR after they changed the language this week.Severe penalties still apply. #TSN

Katie Strang@KatieStrangESPN

#CBA NHLPA in process of finalizing a time for the vote. Could happen soon. When it does, will take place during 48-hour window

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At this point I'd take all tweets with a grain of salt and really only listen to well established sources.

Even they didn't know the federal arbitrators were involved until recently, so information is pretty clearly locked down tight. Most everything else is speculation.

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I would be excited if I had not heard that 2-3x already during these 'negotiations'.

First time I've heard that coaches were informed.

#CBA Don't be surprised that Fehr decided no on disclaimer. Union guy that believes in model. Been told he has advised against it repeatedly

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First time I've heard that coaches were informed.

True dat. First time I think it WAS the coaches calling players.

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NHLPA to hold 5pm conference call to provide update to players.#TSN

Craig Custance@CraigCustance

PA lawyers using Gary Bettman's own words from last night about disclaimer never being uttered as proof PA hasn't threatened to disclaim.

No word yet on when the NHLPA's second "disclaimer of interest" period would end.

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Both the NHL and NHLPA use the media as their puppets. Most of the info out there is bogus and there are too many people trying to be the first one to report anything even if it aint true.

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Report: League requests Stanley Cup to be awarded to either the PA or the NHL Owners this year

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Next UFC match-up...Bettman vs Fehr. The Brawl to End it All. Finishing moves...Bettman has the 60 mil Cap Cross Face Chicken Wing. Fehr has the Make Whole HRR Figure 4 Leg Lock. Who wins?

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<blockquote class='ipsBlockquote'data-author="Hatethedrake!" data-cid="2337499" data-time="1357251391"><p>

Next UFC match-up...Bettman vs Fehr. The Brawl to End it All. Finishing moves...Bettman has the 60 mil Cap Cross Face Chicken Wing. Fehr has the Make Whole HRR Figure 4 Leg Lock. Who wins?</p></blockquote>

Judge Cecil Peoples gives the win to the guy selling $15 beers in the upper level.

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Next UFC match-up...Bettman vs Fehr. The Brawl to End it All. Finishing moves...Bettman has the 60 mil Cap Cross Face Chicken Wing. Fehr has the Make Whole HRR Figure 4 Leg Lock. Who wins?

Vegas has it at Fehr -430. Not very good value.

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Kypreos says that there are internal battles between small market owners and big market owners over the $60 mil cap proposal. Says NY Rangers, Detroit, Vancouver don't want that # to go down. NHLPA may sit back and let them figure it out for 1 or 2 days. Right now Bettman has it at 60, Fehr at 65.

The Wings currently have 15 guys locked in for 2013-14 at $45 million.

Hope Fehr doesn't file disclaimer. There's no way a season would be lost based on the issues remaining but a season would be lost with bad time management and strategy.

So it sounds like Fehr is advising to the players not to do the disclaimer, and the players will pass through the vote and STILL give Fehr the discretion to file it or not? Wut?

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Kenny needs the Cap at 65 so he can go after Getzlaf and Perry this summer who are UFAs.

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A group of players and union staff have just returned to the NHL office. More pension talk, apparently.

And still no word whether or not both sides meet tonight...

On CBA length: NHLPA willing to go to 10 years with opt-out after Year 7; NHL at 10 years with opt-out after Year 8

players want expiry date to be June 30, NHL wants it to stay Sept. 15.

more and more issues pop up it seems like...

Still 7-8 unresolved issues between both sides but big ones are Year 2 cap, length of player contracts, pensions...

The vote to give the power to the NHLPA executive board to use the disclaimer as started and will end Saturday at 6pm.

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Belief within PA that Bettman/Batterman pulled bait and switch after initial disclaimer deadline passed.

As I said this morning, the tone of talks changed with disclaimer off the table as an option. Thus it is being brought back.

As was the case this afternoon, Don Fehr is not part of the ongoing small-group pension meeting between the NHL and NHLPA.

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Told decision last nite to not file disclaimer totally fell on Don Fehr.#NHLPA Board gave Don sole power to make the decision either way

Disclaimer thing is clearly a negotiation tactic. They'll pass the vote, Fehr again has the decision to file or not and he won't.

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