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Any chance Kenny can throw some big money at Dan DeKeyser to get him to leave Western now? He couldn't look any worse than Quincey has been on the 2nd pairing could he?

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Here’s a fun game. Write down a list of defensemen that could be had for Nyquist and a 1st round pick. Remember, Detroit’s first round pick this year might be a top 10 through 15 pick.

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Yea, I'm on the Volchenkov bandwagon. Get it done Kenny. We need some defensive depth with all these injuries. I want Holland to make a move to make us better not bide time.

ken hollan d was on the radio today and said his just fine with the d he feels they are good and will improve and doesnt see any reason to doubt them so that there states there wont be any moves i think we al need to accept that this is what we are going to get sadly because either he is to affaid to move anyone or just lazy

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I like Volchenkov, and Ellerby. Subban, I could take or leave. He's a good player and all, but I'm not worried about our defensemen scoring, I'm worried about physical/shutdown play, and the PK. Volchenkov for sure. Or maybe Robyn Regehr. That guy's a beast too.

I recommended Regehr awhile back. Crymson yelled at me and I cried and I have not spoken of the matter since then.

I share your concerns. We need an ass-kicker. We need a down-shutter.

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ken hollan d was on the radio today and said his just fine with the d he feels they are good and will improve and doesnt see any reason to doubt them so that there states there wont be any moves i think we al need to accept that this is what we are going to get sadly because either he is to affaid to move anyone or just lazy

Called posturing, he's not going to come right now and say we need defensive help, because that would only hurt him when he talks to other teams. I think he's hand will be forced with the injuries.

On another note, keep in mind we'll probably have to overpay significantly to get a top 4 defensive guy. They seem to be rare these days, and if Quincey was had for a first rounder you can imagine what a player like Volchenkov will demand.

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Called posturing, he's not going to come right now and say we need defensive help, because that would only hurt him when he talks to other teams. I think he's hand will be forced with the injuries.

On another note, keep in mind we'll probably have to overpay significantly to get a top 4 defensive guy. They seem to be rare these days, and if Quincey was had for a first rounder you can imagine what a player like Volchenkov will demand.

I really don't think we would have to "overpay" for a top four. We got Brad Stuart for a 2nd and a 4th round pick wasn't it? The thing that makes defensemen expensive is if they score a lot of points. Get a big bodied, shut down, defenseman like Stuart was and they come fairly cheap because they rarely score.

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Holland's been on the phone for the past two hours trying to get a "veteran defenseman" for tonight's game against Dallas.

I'm calling it. It's Lilja.

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Garbage in, garbage out. If it's a veteran free agent who isn't currently signed with anyone, then there's probably a reason for that. Need to make a trade and bring someone in that's worth a damn.

Haha, just thought of something. It's probably Mike F'king Commodore.



In this case "veteran" better mean a 29-32 year old and not a 36-38 year old or I'm going to be pissed.

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So could the wings do ok with 2 trains on the team? Toots and Pain train!?!? hahahahaha I have a sick feeling it's going to be lilja. Karen will be happy.

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Who wants to bet it's signing Nathan Paetsch to a 2-way deal so he can be brought up

Holland's been on the phone for the past two hours trying to get a "veteran defenseman" for tonight's game against Dallas.

I'm calling it. It's Lilja.

That actually wouldn't be that surprising...

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New Jersey has had Adam Larsson as a healthy scratch the last two nights, wonder if they could be a trading partner. Volchenkov, Tallinder, and Fayne would all be good additions. Volchenkov has a NTC, but hasn't been playing a ton for them, wondered if it's a limited one or not? Andy Greene would be amazing, but I doubt they would let him go play on the top pairing. Tallinder is a steady veteran, probably the easiest to bait a trade for and cheapest. Fayne is young, on a great deal, and is playing very very well.

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Neither did I, but if he's not getting playing time and looks at us and sees a chance to play big minutes, he might be willing to waive it no? I ******* hope so anyway.

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TSN was discussing that probably Subban is going to get traded. Dunno know if Subban solves any of our problems however he is young and has loads of potential. Asking price will be high I'm sure...

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I don't think it makes sense to give away Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, or Howard. As far as I'm concerned they are the four untouchables. That makes Franzen and Fil our two highest-value players as trade bait. I'm actually not even comfortable with trading away Fil given his great year last year. I wonder if maybe this team could work out? Brendan Smith's first full year as a Red Wing. Worst case scenerio we finish poorly, get a good draft pick, and use some cap space to get a good free agent defenseman. I know that failed last year, but I still have trust in Ken Holland. It could be a tough road, or maybe it will just be some years of having to fight for the last playoff spots.

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TSN was discussing that probably Subban is going to get traded. Dunno know if Subban solves any of our problems however he is young and has loads of potential. Asking price will be high I'm sure...

Not to mention he is a big spot-picking doucher.

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I don't think it makes sense to give away Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, or Howard. As far as I'm concerned they are the four untouchables. That makes Franzen and Fil our two highest-value players as trade bait. I'm actually not even comfortable with trading away Fil given his great year last year. I wonder if maybe this team could work out? Brendan Smith's first full year as a Red Wing. Worst case scenerio we finish poorly, get a good draft pick, and use some cap space to get a good free agent defenseman. I know that failed last year, but I still have trust in Ken Holland. It could be a tough road, or maybe it will just be some years of having to fight for the last playoff spots.

"Hi, guys. I'm Doug."

"Hi, Doug."

"There was a time when I had a pretty good thing going. But then I wouldn't trade Filapoola. Before I knew it, I was on a real tough road, a downward spiral. Spent two years fighting, scraping just to get into the playoffs. Oh, sure, I had my moments, but..."

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TSN was discussing that probably Subban is going to get traded. Dunno know if Subban solves any of our problems however he is young and has loads of potential. Asking price will be high I'm sure...

Subban getting moved is a distinct possibility since there's a shortage of "quality" Dmen throughout the league, and the Habs could possibly score big on what Subban could bring in return.

Not to mention he is a big spot-picking doucher.

I for one have always like Subban, and thought he could become a top 2 pairing Dman.

With that being said - he has come across as a doucher from time to time while on the ice, and now he's becomming a doucher off the ice with this contract squabble.

He's only been in the "bigs" for a few seasons; he wants to get the long term contract with big $$$ as though he just won the Norris Trophy...Mind you this is his stance that he's taking with Montreal being his favorite team to watch while growing up...Just think how he'd act if it wasn't the Habs?

Gotta say as much as I like his ability - the doucher factor is too strong with this one.

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I'd be fine with a trade for Pernell Karl, except that the asking price might be unrealistic.

I would love to see him a Red Wing as well...Just that he needs to leave the attitude in Montreal.

Yes - the asking price would be a bit steep...Maybe for Franzen?

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I don't think it makes sense to give away Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, or Howard. As far as I'm concerned they are the four untouchables. That makes Franzen and Fil our two highest-value players as trade bait. I'm actually not even comfortable with trading away Fil given his great year last year. I wonder if maybe this team could work out? Brendan Smith's first full year as a Red Wing. Worst case scenerio we finish poorly, get a good draft pick, and use some cap space to get a good free agent defenseman. I know that failed last year, but I still have trust in Ken Holland. It could be a tough road, or maybe it will just be some years of having to fight for the last playoff spots.

Filppula has essentially no trade value because he's a free agent next year.

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Filppula has essentially no trade value because he's a free agent next year.

Keep in mind Subban is unsigned. Fil isn't worth subban but subban doesn't have full trade value here.

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