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#1 evilmrt

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:17 PM

Lots of tweaks to be made... I'm sure you all have your theories.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:21 PM

Drop Cleary, Sammy, Bertuzzi, go after a top 6 forward, keep Nyquist, Tatar, and Anderson up. The Defense is young, but is adapting well. Also bury Monster, he blows.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:23 PM

Drop Cleary, Sammy, Bertuzzi, go after a top 6 forward, keep Nyquist, Tatar, and Anderson up. The Defense is young, but is adapting well. Also bury Monster, he blows.

Well stated. Put Emmerton in a deal is about the only thing that you didn't include that I was thinking, but opposed to that, this is spot on. 

 

Give Smith a chance, let's not throw him under the bus quite yet.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:26 PM

id keep cleary on a 4th line hes proven hes a playoff warrior 



package xavier ouellet in a package deal to colorado if possible to draft mckinnon ... roy is the gm and since hes coached in the quebec junior league im sure if we tossed ouellet in a tempting deal hed think twice about it



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:26 PM

id keep cleary on a 4th line hes proven hes a playoff warrior 

Problem is Babcock won't play him on the 4th line, he will use him in the top 6.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:28 PM

Drop Cleary, Sammy, Bertuzzi, go after a top 6 forward, keep Nyquist, Tatar, and Anderson up. The Defense is young, but is adapting well. Also bury Monster, he blows.


Yeah I like all of these moves. Blueline should be fine, but they need some more intensive coaching.
What about Flipper?

I don't know about this one. Even for a discount, he doesn't seem worth much, unless he reveals an injury he had all season. A guy with a giant dropoff like his usually needs a change in scenery.




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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:28 PM

If Dano will take a reduced salary (reduced..) I'd like him back. But he's the only one of the veterans who I'd bring back, because he showed some heart and got some results.

 

Let Fil go, buyout Sammy, get a healthy Helm and DeKeyser back. Continue the growth from within, I'd love to see a guy like Clarkson brought in, but the season just ended. We'll see what unfolds.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:33 PM

much rather let filppula go and bring in clarkson at 5 per yr at least he hits and fights .... as for franzen i think we can buy out a player after next year without it counting?? so id keep mule one more year and then maybe consider buying him out i was checking cap geek and the last 2 years at age 39-40 he makes 1 million a year

 

if he retires early thanks to the new bettman rules we will be punished for those type deals severely and i dont see franzen sticking around those years ... zetterberg is in the same boat but i see him sticking around regardless



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:35 PM

Yeah I like all of these moves. Blueline should be fine, but they need some more intensive coaching. What about Flipper? I don't know about this one. Even for a discount, he doesn't seem worth much, unless he reveals an injury he had all season. A guy with a giant dropoff like his usually needs a change in scenery.

Flip has been so invisible this season I plum forgot about him. If he takes a 2-3 season at 3-3.5 million, keep him, anything more than that, let him walk.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:37 PM

We have two buys outs we can use, right? I feel like using those on players who only have one year left anyway is a waste (Bert and Sammy). A more wise choice might be using it on Franzen looking towards the future.

Obviously I want Flip back, but if he didn't come back it wouldn't be the worst thing for the team as long as we got another second line center so Z and Pav can be put together.

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:37 PM

Trade Franzgelina to either Vancouver or Dallas...those are the only two teams I see taking on those years...either way, adios! I cannot stand him, he lazed around the entire series for the most part and was barely visible when needed.  Hossa didn't go lights out either, but you knew when he was on the ice...that being said, I still think the choice was wrong, but I don't want either of them on this team, we need a new direction.

 

 

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:38 PM

much rather let filppula go and bring in clarkson at 5 per yr at least he hits and fights .... as for franzen i think we can buy out a player after next year without it counting?? so id keep mule one more year and then maybe consider buying him out i was checking cap geek and the last 2 years at age 39-40 he makes 1 million a year
 
if he retires early thanks to the new bettman rules we will be punished for those type deals severely and i dont see franzen sticking around those years ... zetterberg is in the same boat but i see him sticking around regardless


No way, Franzen is trade bait... There is no way he gets bought out. Holland could actually get some good assets for him!



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:38 PM

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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:38 PM

Flip has been so invisible this season I plum forgot about him. If he takes a 2-3 season at 3-3.5 million, keep him, anything more than that, let him walk.

 

 I just say let him walk...we need his roster spot.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:42 PM

franzen is good trade bait????? just like luongo was ??? its hard to get rid of someone with such a long term deal

 

the only thing i could see MAYBE happening if we got lucky is a 3 way deal

 

vancouver gets

 

franzen

 

toronto gets

 

luongo

 

detroit gets

 

1st round pick

 

thats it ... either that or buy out ... no one will take a long term deal on a 33-34 yr old mule



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:47 PM

Well stated. Put Emmerton in a deal is about the only thing that you didn't include that I was thinking, but opposed to that, this is spot on. 

 

Give Smith a chance, let's not throw him under the bus quite yet.

 

Oh Smith has been run over and then backed over by the bus repeatedly at this point...



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:48 PM

So as Red Wings NHL14 GM on my PS3 ;) I would

Let Flip go (should've traded him for something when we had the chance)
resign Cleary for a 4th line role
sign one semi-big name top 6er (Clarkson, Iginla?) so Babcock isn't "forced" to play Cleary on the first two lines
Buy out Sammy, throw Gus in the minors
I might be open to keeping Bert but he'll have to earn his spot on the everyday lineup
Sign a credible (not Conklin, not Monster, not some half ass attempt at a backup) veteran backup goalie to give Howard some nights off instead of being forced to run him into the ground
Promote the young guys to bigger roles on the team
resign Brunner
Keep Pavel at ALL COSTS

Clarkson/Iginla - Dats - Brunner  (Dats and Franzen had no chemistry this post-season, why not try Brunner with Dats?)
Nyquist (hoping for 50 points from him) - Z - Franzen (Franzen gives some size to this line)
Abby - Helm - Tatar (could this be the new grindline?)
Miller - Anderson - Eaves (I liked the way Miller and Eaves the last few weeks of the season)

Emmerton - Tootoo

edit: I guess Clarkson and Iginla would be right handed shots so it wouldn't make sense to have the 1st line righty heavy. Fix accordingly.

Big E - Kronwall
Smith- Danny D

Kindl - Quincey
Colo

Howard
FA backup

If Brunner and the young guys aren't performing you still have the capspace to make some moves.


Edit: Seems I forgot Cleary, maybe we don't have room for him after all. We just have too many bottom plug guys that fortunately or unfortunately all played solid and interchangably. :/
 


Edited by Number19, 29 May 2013 - 10:56 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:49 PM

Question...

 

Do any of the kids get sent down to GR for the playoffs? Looks like the Griffs could use some help against the Barons. 

 

I could see Smith going...he needs all the games he can get. 



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 10:53 PM

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Tatar-Z-Clarkson

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Abby- Andy- Eaves

 

Tootoo

 

Same D 



Question...

 

Do any of the kids get sent down to GR for the playoffs? Looks like the Griffs could use some help against the Barons. 

 

I could see Smith going...he needs all the games he can get. 

I dont think Smith can.  But Nquist, Andy, and maybe even Brunner are able to



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:06 PM

Honestly this team is a player or two away... Tweak the roster get a power forward get rid of Franzen, get Helm back get Dekeyser and they will be a top team next year.
BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





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