BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 If he wants 2.5 mil for a couple years, great. If he wants more, bye. Very simple. Thankfully, a lot of people here disagree with you. Hopefully, Kenny Holland does too. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at Brunner getting 3.5 per as long as the contract wasn't more than 3 years. I like the guy, and he seems like he would make a good long term Red Wing--positive on the ice, on the bench, and in the locker room. If we don't pay him, someone else will. Salaries are going to be "inflated" whether we like it or not. I ain't mad if KH wants to take a chance on Brunner. 5 matthewdanna, Hockeymom1960, Motown4013 and 2 others reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted June 18, 2013 If Brunner gets more than 2.5 mil, I will be shocked. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 Thankfully, a lot of people here disagree with you. Hopefully, Kenny Holland does too. I wouldn't bat an eyelash at Brunner getting 3.5 per as long as the contract wasn't more than 3 years. I like the guy, and he seems like he would make a good long term Red Wing--positive on the ice, on the bench, and in the locker room. If we don't pay him, someone else will. Salaries are going to be "inflated" whether we like it or not. I ain't mad if KH wants to take a chance on Brunner. but flip will certainly be pissed lol, give brunner 3.5 and let flip walk if he won't take less than 4, simple as that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 In even more cryptic tweeting news, Brunner retweeted Pav's tweet about re-signing...COINCIDENCE?!?! God, summers without hockey are boring... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 In even more cryptic tweeting news, Brunner retweeted Pav's tweet about re-signing...COINCIDENCE?!?! God, summers without hockey are boring... now you're just grasping lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StormJH1 231 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 If he wants 2.5 mil for a couple years, great. If he wants more, bye. Very simple. There's a surprising number of people around this site that seem to agree with you, and that's surprising to me. There are obvious holes in his game, yes. But he's an unrestricted free agent entering his late 20's - he's not your average "2nd year player". People seem to think he's in the same category as Nyquist and Andersson, and he's just not - he's older, more experienced, and did more to develop his pro track record this year. I don't think it will be more than $3 million per, but nothing short of $3.5 million in a 1-3 year deal would "surprise" me. If he were on some other team last year, I feel like people would be more understanding of his market value. LGW'ers seem inclined to assume that the Wings will get this big discount because he's comfortable here...I doubt that's what will happen. I do want him back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crashnburnluder 385 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 I dont mind going as high as 3 million for him... The kid does have a knack at scoring goals and a full season I could see him reaching close to 25-30, especially after a full training camp. Our biggest lack right now is goal scoring and you dont fix that by trading away one of your better shooters. This was his first year in smaller rink and the reason we made it to the 2nd round and almost the third was because we were able to have guys that could score on our lower lines. We NEED Brunner back unless you plan on spending 5 million in FA for a similar type player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 now you're just grasping lol Am not. You take that back! I think I'm just trying to deflect from the fact that I have the sinking feeling that Brunner is going to cock tease this along until the final hour. I'd really hate to see him play for another NHL team. I've become attached. Him staying in Switzerland would be more palatable than having to watch him play for...the Panthers...or something. Have I mentioned that summers without hockey suck? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unsaddleddonald 357 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) If Brunner gets more than 2.5 mil, I will be shocked. It's that damn 2nd half slump. His stats were there in the playoffs, but if you go by the eye test, he was still getting push around a bit (GRANTED, he looked more like 1st half Brunes than 2nd half Brunes). Andersson and Nyquist seemed to make him look pretty good at times. He was the "worst" of those 3 in the playoffs. Again, even though the stats say otherwise. My primary example is his OT goal against Anaheim: Andersson made the pass, Nyquist caused the commotion, and Brunes was in the right place at the right time to clean up the garbage. There is something to be said about being opportunistic though. Brett Hull made a career out of it.... Edited June 18, 2013 by unsaddleddonald Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stillwater 186 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 If Brunner gets more than 2.5 mil, I will be shocked. Yeah, you've said it four times in just one thread. We get it. 3-years, 2.75 per year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaCkaveli20 275 Report post Posted June 18, 2013 At times he was our best forward who didn't just announce an extension or doesn't wear that odd 'C' on his jersey. I say give him 3-years, 3.25 per year. Dude can OBVIOUSLY score, he improved a ton in just half a season in the NHL. I think he can up his production and the cap hit could be a huge steal. 1 matthewdanna reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 So...Brunner has the same agent as Ryan Suter? FML He's probably gonna sign with the Paris DoucheCanoes with Raphael Diaz for 18 billion dollars and 23 years so they can be the new Euro Thunderbuddies. At least the Paris DoucheCanoes' farm team won the Calder Cup. Oh wait... Is it wrong to be drunk at 10am on a Wednesday morning? 1 Kindl Surprise reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) Hard to tell if Holland is being tactical....... Free-agent update Holland said he is continuing talks with impending unrestricted free-agent forwards Daniel Cleary, Damien Brunner and Valtteri Filppula, but roster space is scarce. “We have big decisions to make,'' Holland said. “We got a push of kids. We got 14 forwards under contract now (including restricted free agents Gustav Nyquist and Joakim Andersson). We'll only carry 14. “We know we have compliance buyouts at our disposal. I'll explore trades." “I'm talking to Cleary, Brunner, Filppula. If there's a term and number that works for us, we'll try to fit them in. If not, we'll go in a different direction. We like all these players, but sometimes if there's a better opportunity elsewhere a player's got to pursue it.'' Filppula's chances of returning appear slim. He was seeking more than $5 million per season but struggled during the regular season and the playoffs. Holland said defenseman Ian White was told he won't be re-signed, which was apparent long ago. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/06/red_wings_thrilled_to_have_pav.html Edited June 19, 2013 by rick zombo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Din758 371 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Hard to tell if Holland is being tactical....... http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/06/red_wings_thrilled_to_have_pav.html I say tactical for sure. Never want to show your cards in a negotiation, especially for brunner's sake (we actually want to sign him) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 So...Brunner has the same agent as Ryan Suter? FML He's probably gonna sign with the Paris DoucheCanoes with Raphael Diaz for 18 billion dollars and 23 years so they can be the new Euro Thunderbuddies. At least the Paris DoucheCanoes' farm team won the Calder Cup. Oh wait... Is it wrong to be drunk at 10am on a Wednesday morning? nope, If I was able to I would join you in the drunken festivities 1 BottleOfSmoke reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
St. Michael (the Red Wing) 422 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 So...Brunner has the same agent as Ryan Suter? FML Man I will have a bad taste in my mouth if he doesn't re-sign with us and signs with the... Wild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BottleOfSmoke 5,965 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 nope, If I was able to I would join you in the drunken festivities I appreciate your support. Man I will have a bad taste in my mouth if he doesn't re-sign with us and signs with the... Wild. You and me both... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yzerfan1999 81 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Someone will probably through Ville Leino money at him. Should be interesting...do you guys think Zetterberg has any pull here? Seemed like the two have a nice history going back to HC Zug. To be honest, I am a little shocked he hasn't resigned already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kipwinger 8,755 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 So...Brunner has the same agent as Ryan Suter? FML He's probably gonna sign with the Paris DoucheCanoes with Raphael Diaz for 18 billion dollars and 23 years so they can be the new Euro Thunderbuddies. At least the Paris DoucheCanoes' farm team won the Calder Cup. Oh wait... Is it wrong to be drunk at 10am on a Wednesday morning? If it's wrong, then I don't wanna be right. 4 amato, 55fan, FireCaptain and 1 other reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AusWing40 61 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Hard to tell if Holland is being tactical....... http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2013/06/red_wings_thrilled_to_have_pav.html I read that more pointed toward filppula, as its seeming a certainty he's gone now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T.Low 1,011 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 If he wants 2.5 mil for a couple years, great. If he wants more, bye. Very simple. -1 3 Euro_Twins, stillwater and Danielsm reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Euro_Twins 4,485 Report post Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) we get a guy who LOVES to shoot and score goals, and is willing to put hard work into the holes in his game and we are going to low ball him? but we are content with sammy and cleary at 3mil? and quincey at 3.775? Edited June 19, 2013 by Euro_Twins 1 55fan reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted June 20, 2013 we get a guy who LOVES to shoot and score goals, and is willing to put hard work into the holes in his game and we are going to low ball him? but we are content with sammy and cleary at 3mil? and quincey at 3.775? Honestly, Id remove Brunner, Cleary, and Filppula right now. Those guys are 4th line material if we give Horton big money (7 mil per). Franzen-Datsyuk-Horton Zetterberg-Helm-Nyquist Tatar-Andersson-Abdelkader Miller-Emmerton-Tootoo We are not hurting for small fast guys who can score when they are wide open because Datsyuk is incredible. We are hurting for big, tough, fast guys who take pressure off Datsyuk and give him more room to work his magic. Brunner will not get more than 3 years/2.5 mil per. He is not worth more than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Honestly, Id remove Brunner, Cleary, and Filppula right now. Those guys are 4th line material if we give Horton big money (7 mil per). Franzen-Datsyuk-Horton Zetterberg-Helm-Nyquist Tatar-Andersson-Abdelkader Miller-Emmerton-Tootoo We are not hurting for small fast guys who can score when they are wide open because Datsyuk is incredible. We are hurting for big, tough, fast guys who take pressure off Datsyuk and give him more room to work his magic. Brunner will not get more than 3 years/2.5 mil per. He is not worth more than that. Why do you insist on Helm being a 2nd line center? Otherwise, looks OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest The Axe Report post Posted June 20, 2013 Why do you insist on Helm being a 2nd line center? Otherwise, looks OK. I dont have to spot him there. Andersson or Emdog can go there. Just think Helm is the choice at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
