Kingston 21 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger 1m 2014-2015 NHL salary cap projection delivered at Board of Governors meeting.Upwards of $71 million next season. CDN TV rights also ratified. 1 Son of a Wing reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Didn't expect it to be over 70m for this next season. Great news for us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Better for sure but since revenue sharing went up for only ten teams, the cap for these ten should do so also.. Would like something around 80 million Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Son of a Wing 1,644 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Better for sure but since revenue sharing went up for only ten teams, the cap for these ten should do so also.. Would like something around 80 million That wouldn't make any sense for the league. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cusimano_brothers 1,655 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 From TSN: Things are going great for the NHL from a business perspective. How great will be revealed in the next couple of days at the board of governors meeting in Pebble Beach, Calif. The board is expected to approve the league's new television deal with Rogers and get briefed on the approximate salary cap for next season. The $5.2-billion, 12-year deal the NHL struck with Rogers for exclusive national TV rights in Canada needs approval from the board of governors before it goes into effect for next season. Given the financial windfall it represents for the league, there's no real danger that it doesn't pass. Revenue from that contract won't factor in until next year, but commissioner Gary Bettman said last month in Toronto that "it's fair to say" the NHL is over the US$3.3-billion mark from the last full season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DatsyukianDekes 2,428 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 @DarrenDreger: Told the salary cap projection for 2014-2015 is $71.1 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mackel 763 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 What's the over/under we'll use this new cap room to resign our dead weight... ala Quincey, Cleary, Sammy, Bert, etc 2 Jesusberg and YMHC reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bannedforlife 403 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Blueadams line thread in 3...2...1... 1 dirtydangles reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeftWinger 5,130 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 $71.1M? Interesting...it's nice to know there will be lots of cap room, but then again, there will be bottom dwelling teams over-paying mediocre talent and pushing "market value" through the roof... Good, lets hope some team offers Quincey $6M a year... Anyone still not mad we didn't land Suter? Sure, two years ago that contract looked like it would handcuff any team out there, but if the cap is going up to $71.1M next season, then when the NHL gets its lucrative TV deal and it goes up to $80M, Minnesota will be sitting pretty with BOTH of those contracts. I know Suter chose family and I get it, but I for one, really wish we could have got him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest mjtm77 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 is this good news for us? will we spend the money? Didn't Kenny say something about getting younger players from GR instead of free agency? or am I high and out to lunch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 is this good news for us? will we spend the money? Didn't Kenny say something about getting younger players from GR instead of free agency? or am I high and out to lunch? Hopefully, Phaneuf makes into free angecy would love him on the DetroitRedWings. Guy is a beast, defensive reliable and if needed he can play QB on the PP very well with a nice shot. as for Suter there is nothing Kenny could have done here, his girlfriend wanted to go home and he wanted to play with Parise so it was a done deal. I said back then that the contract isn't horrible and vera creative structured, Suter is worth of that a Norris candidate year in and year out. The bad thing is, aside from Vanek and Phaneuf this UFA class is looking very disappointing, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nev 1,085 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 is this good news for us? will we spend the money? This is the thing - firstly we aren't going to have that many roster spots open. Secondly, there aren't going to be many good players available, except via trade. Teams lock up their best players on long term contracts now. The result is that the mid-level free agents who last summer were getting $5-6M are now going to be getting $7-8M. The real winners here are teams like Chicago and Pittsburgh who've got all their core talent locked up on long term cap friendly deals. They'll have no problems continuing to re-sign their bridge players or fill gaps with whichever FA's become available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Good god this list is just... http://capgeek.com/free-agents/?year_id=2014&team_id=-1&position_id=D&fa_type_id=2 other than Phaneuf there is absolutely nothing, Boyle and Markov are to old, same for Kimonen. In terms of forwards, who can play center Statsny might be a nice alternative http://capgeek.com/free-agents/?year_id=2014&team_id=-1&position_id=F&fa_type_id=2, Vanek for sure won't be worth the caphit he'll be demanding. Given this pool, playing the young guns and let them develope might be the smart thing to do. I just pray that Kenny is going to stay away from signing Heatley... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 The long-term contracts have really killed the excitement of free agency and the trade deadline. But we are building a new core internally. There may not be superstars out there but there are guys who could help round out a team. Namely, more effective veterans than Cleary and Sammy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 If this is true, Kenny will have zero cap trouble next year. The problem is though, he needs to manage the roster so there's room next year for Sheahan, Ferraro, Callahan, and Almquist, room the following year for Jurco and Mrazek, and room in 2015-16 for Sproul, Ouelett, Jarnkrok and Pulkinnen. Assuming they all make the transition. Then we have Mantha, who could make the team out of camp next fall, or anytime after that. Kenny would have the money to sign (for example) Stastny/Vanek/Gaborik/Callahan/Phaneuf, whatever. But these guys will all want long term deals and unless they buy out Mule/Weiss, and trade someone like Andersson, there's going to be a log-jam up front that will make this year seem like a dream. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Detroit # 1 Fan 2,204 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 Going to be good for us one way or another, no more dead weight and the only roster issues will be getting more kids in the line-up. We'll also have the flexibility to go after a big name should we need too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krsmith17 7,191 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I don't get the excitement of the cap increasing so drastically over the next couple seasons. We would definitely benefit much more with a similar cap to the current $64.3 mil, maybe an increase of 2-3 mil to 66-67 mil. Look at our list of UFA's we can potentially get rid of after this season. Alfredsson - $5.5 mil Samuelsson - $3 mil Bertuzzi - $2.075 mil Cleary - $1.75 mil Eaves - $1.2 mil Quincey - $3.775 mil Gustavsson - $1.5 mil A grand total of $18.8 mil "potentially" coming off the books. Chances are we will resign 2 or 3 of them, I'm thinking Alfredsson at a slightly lower cap hit (approx. $4.5 mil) and Gustavsson at a slightly higher cap hit (approx. $2.25mil). With the raises that we've given / will give to players like Datsyuk, Ericsson, Tatar (approx. $1.25 mil) and DeKeyser (approx. $3.25 mil) we still have enough cap space to sign a few of our RFA's, Sheahan (approx. $1 mil), Ferraro (approx. $0.9 mil), Glendenning (approx. $0.75 mil), and Almquist (approx. $0.9 mil). I think a lineup something like this is an improvement over this years roster. Just my opinion... FORWARDSTomas Tatar ($1.250m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m)Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.500m)Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.900m) / Riley Sheahan ($1.000m)Luke Glendening ($0.750m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) DEFENSEMENNiklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m)Danny DeKeyser ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m)Adam Almquist ($0.900m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m)Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) GOALTENDERSJimmy Howard ($5.292m)Jonas Gustavsson ($2.250m) BURIEDJordin Tootoo ($0.975m) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,849,545; BONUSES: $0CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $450,455 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rick zombo 3,739 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I don't get the excitement of the cap increasing so drastically over the next couple seasons. We would definitely benefit much more with a similar cap to the current $64.3 mil, maybe an increase of 2-3 mil to 66-67 mil. Look at our list of UFA's we can potentially get rid of after this season. Alfredsson - $5.5 mil Samuelsson - $3 mil Bertuzzi - $2.075 mil Cleary - $1.75 mil Eaves - $1.2 mil Quincey - $3.775 mil Gustavsson - $1.5 mil A grand total of $18.8 mil "potentially" coming off the books. Chances are we will resign 2 or 3 of them, I'm thinking Alfredsson at a slightly lower cap hit (approx. $4.5 mil) and Gustavsson at a slightly higher cap hit (approx. $2.25mil). With the raises that we've given / will give to players like Datsyuk, Ericsson, Tatar (approx. $1.25 mil) and DeKeyser (approx. $3.25 mil) we still have enough cap space to sign a few of our RFA's, Sheahan (approx. $1 mil), Ferraro (approx. $0.9 mil), Glendenning (approx. $0.75 mil), and Almquist (approx. $0.9 mil). I think a lineup something like this is an improvement over this years roster. Just my opinion... FORWARDS Tomas Tatar ($1.250m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.500m) Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.900m) / Riley Sheahan ($1.000m) Luke Glendening ($0.750m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m) Danny DeKeyser ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m) Adam Almquist ($0.900m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) Jonas Gustavsson ($2.250m) BURIED Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,849,545; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $450,455 I agree. It always seems like the cap goes up when the Wings don't really need it to (next year) and isn't high enough when they need it the most (2009). All the increased cap will do is make it easier for teams like Minnesota to add another mega-contract for a guy like Vanek or the Hawks to keep stacking the core, etc. A lower cap would benifit the Wings by not helping out the other teams. As a side note: what are they going to do with Monster? Money won't be an issue. Neither will his performance. Term's going to be a problem. He'll be looking for at least a two year deal, and this will be a problem. Mrazek would be out of waiver options in the second year of Monster's contract. Ideally, the Wings sign their back-up for one year. That way there will be a spot for Mrazek in 2015-16. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 IMHO if the the salary cap continues to climb so drastically we'll be in for another lockout in 2 to 3 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
haroldsnepsts 4,826 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 IMHO if the the salary cap continues to climb so drastically we'll be in for another lockout in 2 to 3 years. This CBA term is 10 years with an opt out by either side after 8 years, so there can't be one before then. Assuming Bettman is still commissioner the next NHL lockout will be in 8 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wings10 300 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 All I know is if Holland re-signs Bert, Sammy or Cleary I am done lol. 1 frankgrimes reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtydangles 1,328 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I don't get the excitement of the cap increasing so drastically over the next couple seasons. We would definitely benefit much more with a similar cap to the current $64.3 mil, maybe an increase of 2-3 mil to 66-67 mil. Look at our list of UFA's we can potentially get rid of after this season. Alfredsson - $5.5 mil Samuelsson - $3 mil Bertuzzi - $2.075 mil Cleary - $1.75 mil Eaves - $1.2 mil Quincey - $3.775 mil Gustavsson - $1.5 mil A grand total of $18.8 mil "potentially" coming off the books. Chances are we will resign 2 or 3 of them, I'm thinking Alfredsson at a slightly lower cap hit (approx. $4.5 mil) and Gustavsson at a slightly higher cap hit (approx. $2.25mil). With the raises that we've given / will give to players like Datsyuk, Ericsson, Tatar (approx. $1.25 mil) and DeKeyser (approx. $3.25 mil) we still have enough cap space to sign a few of our RFA's, Sheahan (approx. $1 mil), Ferraro (approx. $0.9 mil), Glendenning (approx. $0.75 mil), and Almquist (approx. $0.9 mil). I think a lineup something like this is an improvement over this years roster. Just my opinion... FORWARDS Tomas Tatar ($1.250m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($7.500m) / Johan Franzen ($3.955m) Gustav Nyquist ($0.950m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Daniel Alfredsson ($4.500m) Stephen Weiss ($4.900m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m) Drew Miller ($1.350m) / Landon Ferraro ($0.900m) / Riley Sheahan ($1.000m) Luke Glendening ($0.750m) / Joakim Andersson ($0.733m) DEFENSEMEN Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($4.250m) Danny DeKeyser ($3.250m) / Brendan Smith ($1.263m) Adam Almquist ($0.900m) / Jakub Kindl ($2.400m) Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) GOALTENDERS Jimmy Howard ($5.292m) Jonas Gustavsson ($2.250m) BURIED Jordin Tootoo ($0.975m) SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,849,545; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $450,455 I'm good with this. Only thing is you can use the buyout on tootoo if you aren't using it elsewhere. I'd be a huge proponent of trading our first this year for a 1st next year. With those 2 firsts and other assets we could move right up in the draft and get that 1C we need so desperately in the system. We will be seeing CRAZY prices in UFA and its better just to build from within so we don't get shafted by the cap again and have kids in GR that have earned a spot but can't crack the roster due to lack of cap/roster space. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankgrimes 1,836 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 All I know is if Holland re-signs Bert, Sammy or Cleary I am done lol. In order to create room for the young and coming players those 3 + Alfie need to be gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wings87 1,290 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 This CBA term is 10 years with an opt out by either side after 8 years, so there can't be one before then. Assuming Bettman is still commissioner the next NHL lockout will be in 8 years. Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't the owners lock the players out and demand that the CBA be re-opened before the opt out date. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VM1138 1,921 Report post Posted December 10, 2013 I'd rather not lose Alfredsson for some rookie who may or may not be good. You can't go too young, and some of those players won't make the NHL full-time (Ferraro). I'd like to bring up some young D (Almqvist) and another forwars, but we're going to be a young team as it is. Trade a few for a player in his prime maybe. We seem to have more great prospects than can feasibly make the team without making us Edmonton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites